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May 5, 2016 at 8:06 am #103626EdParticipant
I have been split from my ex for nearly one and a half years. We were together for 8 although it was on and off at the end.
So a little bit of background. I have aspergers so can struggle with intense situations but on the whole do OK, my ex has low self-esteem and wanted to spend nearly every available moment with me, she also has her own very strong moral compass and she felt others and myself should act as she would, which would cause lots of conflict between us especially with my aspergers.
Basically when we were good we were great, full of love, belonging and happiness, she was my best friend and I believed sole mate but when things weren’t good it was stifling and became to much for me. Eventually I left her for good and tried moving on with my life.
I had deep depression for a time but got through it with meditation, medication and exercise and came out the other side feeling stronger.
I did no contact for about 6 months & when she contacted me I was pretty much OK with it despite thinking about her everyday, the contact lasted a few days via text message then faded away this happens every 3 or so months now, I never ask if she’s seeing anyone as I don’t want to know but just assumed she was/had and I always kept things brief. I am still friends with her brother on facebook but not her and we never discuss her.
Fast forward to now, I’m in a new relationship for sometime with someone who is very understanding of my condition, it is going well although I still think about my ex in some form all be it briefly on a daily basis. 2 weeks ago my ex texts again and we have a brief conversation about the cat we got together and she said she now realizes she has issues, I didn’t want to comment too much but told her she was brave to admit it and it was the first step to getting help, she agreed and the conversation ended with the usual “speak soon”2 days ago I was on facebook (we are not friends on it) about to go to bed and I saw a picture of her brothers family, I was about to comment when I saw that she already had done and her profile picture was of her and another man looking really happy, it was like being shot, I instantly closed facebook and tried to distract myself but got hardly any sleep. I got a friend to block her profile for me so I wouldn’t have to see it again and have restricted what I can see from her brother.
For some reason this has hit me hard, it’s not with me all the time but I’m struggling to sleep and when I do my dreams are about her. I thought I was pretty much over her, I still have love for her and want her to be OK and happy but I was moving forward with my life and thought I was doing well, I was doing fine with the brief occasional contact we had and felt fairly indifferent about it. I always new that she would start a new relationship at some point and she has every right to but for some reason it has been a blow to me and I don’t want it to effect my current relationship or my life but I’m starting to wonder if subconsciously I’ve been holding on to her and as this has affected me so much is my current relationship something I settled with.
Has anyone else been/going through something similar and how did/do you manage?May 5, 2016 at 8:46 am #103629AnonymousGuestDear willowtree00:
I think you did move forward and did so well. The feeling like being shot when you saw a photo of your ex with another man does not negate your correct evaluation that indeed you moved on.
You are alarmed by your reaction to seeing her photo, because, I believe, you interpret it incorrectly and so I would like you to re-consider your interpretation of your feeling when you saw the photo.
As you wrote, all along, during your sporadic contact with your ex you didn’t ask her if she was dating another guy because you didn’t want to know. You didn’t want to know all along because of this feeling you finally felt.
This feeling simply means you had a relationship with your ex, and for eight years, no less. You loved her, you were attached to her. These feelings for your ex do not expire the moment she becomes an ex. And they do not expire after a certain time, even when you successfully moved on. When you move on and are in a loving relationship with a new woman, the ex does not become non existent in your brain. The memories, emotional memories, are still there. The attachment is recorded in your neurons.
It is natural and … normal to have that feeling you had. It was automatic and not of your choosing. It is not evidence that you haven’t moved on or that you don’t love your current girlfriend. It is evidence that our emotional memories do not get erased. After all we keep emotional memories from childhood until we die.
If you agree with me, and let me know if you do, you will no longer be alarmed by the feeling you had; you will understand it for what it is, and continue to move on. Moving on then, is not erasing the past, but simply, moving on.
anita
May 5, 2016 at 9:51 am #103634EdParticipantThank you for your reply Anita.
I believe you’re right in some respects, I didn’t want to know for because I knew how it would affect me.
I do truly want her to be happy and I suppose it makes me sad that she has finally admitted she has issues and doing something about it but never admitted or tried when she was with me.
All through this past year and a half I never stopped loving her despite being in a new relationship and I guess deep down I hoped that one day maybe years from now we would end up together, which I know is very unhealthy.
My current relationship is good and stable (something which I need with my aspergers) but I don’t know if I can see a long term future in it, she is recently divorced and never wants to marry or cohabit again, we basically helped each other through the pain in our breakups, there is love there but it’s not as deep.Is it possible to have a bond with someone that will stay with you forever?
- This reply was modified 7 years, 11 months ago by Ed.
May 5, 2016 at 11:38 am #103642AnonymousGuestDear Willowtree00:
Yes, I do believe it is possible to have a bond with someone that will stay with you for the rest of your life, but I want to examine the word “bond”- once a person is out of your life, the person is out of your life. The bond you have then is a memory of a bond. The memory can stay with you for the rest of your life; memory as what-happened and memory of how it felt.
I do not believe there is only one person in one’s life, one true love and when that is over, you will never know love again. This is true at times but only because of lack of opportunities, lack of willingness, emotional shut down and such. Plus, we often look back at a love story distortingly, remembering and focusing on the loving parts, forgetting the long times of distress and lack of love or closeness. We forget.
Especially when we are lonely or unsatisfied in our current relationship, we look back with longing at a relationship that often enough was not that great. But we need the comfort of a …good memory, so we make it good.
What I learned from your last post is that your current relationship is not satisfactory to you, that you don’t see the future you would like to see. This gives me understanding as to why you would be invested in the past relationship, part of you still hoping for it to be resurrected. Am I correct?
anita
May 6, 2016 at 4:04 am #103725EdParticipantIn terms of a bond, we both agreed that we touched each others souls and that there would always be a link between us, it wasn’t just love talk or being mushy but many truly heartfelt deep conversations and I believe that’s why she has been in my thoughts every day no matter where I was or how happy I was, not constantly, sometimes only for a few seconds but she was there.
My current relationship is a good and happy one and for some time I didn’t look to the future as we were both healing and living day to day. I wouldn’t say I was unsatisfied with it,we both enjoy each others company, had holidays together and generally spend a lot of time together but I could never love her with the depth of feeling that I had for my ex, maybe because of how I feel about my ex or it’s just how it is, I don’t know.I am painfully aware that my ex has faults and it wasn’t all hearts and flowers, that’s why we were on and off again near the end, she would never admit she had faults even when we went to relationship counselling. Leaving her was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life and now she has finally admitted she does have issues she is now with someone else, that really hurts.
I apologise if what I say is disjointed but trying to type on a phone isn’t easy, I hope it makes sense.
May 6, 2016 at 7:09 am #103733AnonymousGuestDear Ed:
It really hurts you that she didn’t acknowledge in counseling with you that she had personal issues to work on, and then, when not in a relationship with you, and worse, when in a relationship with someone else, she acknowledges this.
Your deep bond with her is deep because, I believe, it is connected somehow to an early bond you made to a parent figure, which is our first deep bond. Somehow it is connected. No other bond can compete with that kind of depth. The way a young child is bonded to the parent, there is nothing to compare.
With your new girlfriend, sounds like a delightful relationship, existing in the Now. This Now can be so much better than the Then, if you let go of that desire for depth. Depth is not always a good thing.
What do you think/ feel?
anita
May 6, 2016 at 8:29 am #103747EdParticipantI can’t say I’m particularly close to my parents, infact I know we’re not. I still love and care for them but we rarely discuss feelings and the like. I believe my mum has aspergers or ocd but she dismisses it.
My new girlfriend is a lovely person, non judgemental and understanding probably because she’s a nurse. We rarely have any conflict but depth aside I don’t have that full spark it’s very hard to put into words.
May 6, 2016 at 9:10 am #103757AnonymousGuestDear Ed:
You are not close with your parents, but I bet you wanted to be close, at least at one time… and for a long time, you reached out, trying to connect. The emotional need and desire to connect with a distant parent is intense, for a child.
That “full spark”- maybe it has the same fuel as that child’s desire to connect?
anita
May 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm #103817EdParticipantI think I was/am fairly accepting of how things were/are with my parents, I have no memory of wanting more affection or closness.
Maybe “full spark” isn’t the correct phrase, yes connection is part of it but it does feel like something is missing.
I have decided to go back on the medication I was on before to get through this as the last few days have been quite messy and the “being shot” feeling has only increased and I don’t want to get as down as I did after the break up.
I still need to keep moving forward with myself.
My current girlfriend just believes that my depression has returned, which is half true, she is very stressed with the finalization of her divorce and about to move house and probably couldn’t cope with me being hung up on my ex.Writing at 3am is probably not the best thing to do as I’m very probably wallowing in self pity.
May 6, 2016 at 7:37 pm #103819AnonymousGuestDear Ed:
I am sorry you are so distressed, Ed. It would be a good idea,I believe, if you attended good psychotherapy at this time. The pain you feel is deep and is about things that way, way predate your latest findings about your ex girlfriend. That old pain is triggered and this would be a good opportunity to look into that old, childhood hurt.
anita
May 6, 2016 at 9:07 pm #103838EdParticipantI have a therapy session booked for a few days time with someone who specializes in aspergers and relationships so hopefully that will help. I’m not convinced this is about some childhood issues, if I could go back and change things there’s nothing that I can think of or stands out to change.
I appreciate what you have said and welcome any other advice and comments you could give.
Me and my ex have a complex 8 year history that I guess I hadn’t got over despite starting a new relationship and the time that had passed.May 7, 2016 at 7:57 am #103862AnonymousGuestDear Ed:
I hope the therapy session will be helpful to you and lead to more sessions.
You wrote that you welcome any other advice and comments, therefore here is more of what I already mentioned:
You wrote that you are not close with your parents, and that you believe your mother too fits the Aspergers diagnosis. I am assuming that the lack of closeness with your parents (definitely with your mother if you believe she had difficulty being close with others all along) is true not only to now, or recently but throughout your childhood.
Correct me if I am wrong at this point.
Then you wrote: “I think I was/am fairly accepting of how things were/are with my parents, I have no memory of wanting more affection or closness.”
I believe that every child wants affection and closeness with a parent or parents. I believe so because biologically it is necessary for the survival of the child, the young (in other mammals as well). I believe that you may not remember wanting closeness because, still as a child, you adapted to the lack of it by believing you don’t need it. It is less painful to believe we don’t need something we can’t get, then to be in constant distress of trying to get close again and again… and yet again, year after year.
anita
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