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  • #63590
    Mike
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    Hello,

    I recently ended a long relationship and now that I’m dating again, I am thinking that I made a huge mistake. I’d love some advice on how to proceed if anyone has been in a similar situation, or can provide some insight into why I might be feeling this way.

    The details are as follows:

    The relationship that I ended was a complicated, on-again, off-again saga. It had its fair share of ups and downs. Extreme highs and extreme lows. We had awful fights, but there were also stretches where we had the time of our lives. Along our journey we learned a lot about each other and about life, and became closer to each other than we ever had to other people. It was love and passion, and at its best times was really beautiful.

    The problems:
    The complications came from a combination of both of our insecurities. She had trust issues from being hurt in the past, and her anxiety could make her say and do hurtful things. Many times it would seem like she was on the offensive, and she acted that way out of fear of feeling vulnerable herself. There were times when I felt intimidated, and worse about myself as a person. It made me begin withdraw emotionally from the relationship. I became unsure. She sensed my hesitation and her anxiety multiplied and we’ve been on-again, off-again ever since. However, we had grown closer again, and recently she started recognizing her issues and receiving therapy. She apologized to me for everything, and told me she wants to dedicate her life to us and our future.

    I had some anxiety about it because I felt like I was treated unfairly in the past. My parents (who never liked her) and some friends’ advice was to run away from this relationship forever, that she would definitely push us apart again, and it could happen when we have children, when things could become messy to deal with. They said that the future would only be the same as the past. I acted on that, and things ended painfully and permanently.

    Now that some time has passed since the end, I find myself ruminating on the good times we had. The times where we could be the only 2 people in the world and be completely happy. Despite the problems, it was real love. I have tried dating other people, and everything comes off completely flat to me. Sure, the new dates may never hurt me, but I don’t feel a connection anywhere near the one I broke off. The highs may never be as high. That’s something I would regret forever.

    So, in conclusion, I don’t know if I made a mistake taking my family’s advice, and the advice of a few friends. They saw me during some rough times. But they can’t possibly know of how happy I was during the good times. I’m afraid I acted carelessly and selfishly when I denied her another chance at real love. I’m afraid I’m being a coward by not sticking with her, and respecting her more now that she’s seeking therapy. A big part of me is considering contacting her and telling her I was wrong to end things and see if she can forgive me. Another part of me is saying that even though I may never feel a connection that strong with anyone else, the pain of our rough times is something I can’t look past.

    I’m having a real struggle.

    Any insight would be appreciated.

    Mike

    #63592
    Pooch
    Participant

    Hi Mike, your relationship sounds like mine so I can totally relate. On and off, with a lot of highs and lows. I am still with my boyfriend and things because turned around for the better a few months ago. The reason for our fights was mainly due to my trust and insecurity issues as well (on my end, anyway). To make the story short, I started really dealing with my issues myself, and looking inside for resolution, rather than demanding him to give me security and make me happy/whole. As a result, I became a much happier and fulfilled person on my own as an individual. It then resulted into me being more happy in the relationship. I believe he is much happier as well 🙂

    So, my opinion is that you should give it another try. It may or may not work out since there are no guarantees, but things won’t change for the better unless you make real changes. And the only person you can really change is you. I hope she will be willing to give it another try if you do decide to go this route.

    Wish you well 🙂

    #63593
    Whit
    Participant

    I just posted something similar to what you’re dealing with. I’m just like your girl friend. What you have is real. It’s honestly hard to get that with anyone else. I think maybe if you reassured her more, things would be better. I know that sounds silly, but sometimes we just need it. I don’t know. I let my mind get the best of me. I’m glad he’s stuck around and put up with it all but i’m just so finicky with my mind I damage everything 🙁

    #63596
    Kelly
    Participant

    Mike,
    With respect to Pooch and Whit, I’d suggest you consider an alternative – take some time for yourself to mourn the relationship properly. You say you “recently” ended the relationship and that you’re dating again but that those dates feel flat. Perhaps it was too soon to start dating. Breakups take time to recover from, particularly ones with such strong feelings. It’s in our nature to look back fondly on the person and the relationship, and to place more emphasis on the happy times when we’re feeling the loss. Of course you had great times together, but you also had painful ones. It’s wonderful she’s seeking therapy. If it’s truly meant to be for the two of you, you will be together at some point. I’d just advise you not to rush back into anything without taking enough time for yourself to reevaluate what you want and need in a relationship. There’s nothing wrong with being single for awhile as you figure it all out.

    #63599
    Big blue
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    I can see why you are struggling. You are missing her and the good times. Kelly makes a good point that you can use this time as an opportunity to get back on your feet. Then, you will be better able to talk and work things out with her – as “it was real love” as you said.

    Big blue

    #63612
    Mike
    Participant

    Pooch, Whit, Kelly, Big Blue, Thanks for the advice. It’s true I’m still mourning the relationship and maybe these feelings of regret are natural. There’s a reason things came to an end and maybe it’s immature to overlook the struggles we had. I have a real problem with the way she handles conflict, and this is something I can’t ignore.

    I got some unexpected advice from my 84 year old Grandmother today. She said that our struggles are hardly anything compared to the struggles we’ll be faced with when raising a family, building a future. These are supposed to be the simple times, and if it’s this difficult for us now, it will be so much harder when the real challenges begin. Those happy times I’m holding on to won’t seem as bright.

    She’s witnessed lots of successful relationships and a lot of failed ones, and maybe she has a good point.

    At the same time, this is my inevitably my decision. I probably need more time to understand what my gut is feeling. It will be a shame to lose her forever if that takes too long, but what choice do I have?

    Mike

    #63618
    Jo
    Participant

    What are you going to do Mike?
    it’s a tough one, when you meet that special someone and you click on an emotional level that you have never experienced, the high levels of passion, the huge feisty fights….it’s awfully confusing. for me I thought it was true love and that you just take the bad with the good….I’m going to write a pros and cons list so it’s sharing at me in the face, just in case he changes his mind…I need to be mentally prepared. Spending time alone and with friends can be therapeutic and the answer can sometimes just fall from nowhere.

    #63655
    bh2601
    Participant

    Wow this sounds similar. I would ask if you have done everything you can to support her and have the relationship you want. You can be in a relationship and blame the other person for how they are. If you do everything you can to have the relationship you want there’s a good change you will have a great relationship. As for your family, did you talk to them about her, did you ask them to support your relationship. Take responsibility for your Relationship.

    #63984
    RB
    Participant

    You sound a lot like my ex. Infact ya’ll have the same name.

    She sounds similar to me, minus the fact his parents adored me.

    If you love her, honestly, let her go. Because the both of you need to keep growing and continuing this on and off cycle on the pretense of love isn’t unhealthy. Love is knowing when enough is enough.

    “I have tried dating other people, and everything comes off completely flat to me. Sure, the new dates may never hurt me, but I don’t feel a connection anywhere near the one I broke off. The highs may never be as high.”

    That last part sounds like you have an addiction. That’s how you know this isn’t healthy. When you’re only chasing highs.
    You obviously have not had enough time alone and apart growing to appreciate the beauty and potential in other people. This happens and is the most difficult transition after being in a rollercoaster relationship. Of course, not everyone is compatible, but you certainly sound like you’re not ready to date if you’re still comparing these people to the “high” you felt before.

    That high was not love or passion. It was uncertainty, and insecurity. And a mix of a lot of drama.

    “Now that some time has passed since the end, I find myself ruminating on the good times we had”

    And forgetting all the bad and unhealthiness of it. Nostalgia and rose colored glasses, that’s how we romanticize the past.

    Do her and yourself a favor, properly move on. And then much later if you cross paths or decide to reach out and it happens organically, there you go. But more likely you will meet somebody much more right for you, somebody you can’t possibly imagine now, and you’ll wonder why you kept chasing that drug before.

    And she will properly get the help she needs instead of still going back to get her fix from you.

    “Despite the problems, it was real love”

    I don’t think you understand what real love is yet. I think you need even more time to yourself if you think it looked like the relationship you two had. Consider the impact it’s had on her too, not just yourself in that.

    “I’m afraid I acted carelessly and selfishly when I denied her another chance at real love. I’m afraid I’m being a coward by not sticking with her, and respecting her more now that she’s seeking therapy.”

    Maybe you did/were. My ex sure as hell was. But don’t you see those are all deep seated fears about how you come across? You’re saying you denied HER another chance at real love, but what about you?

    A big part of me is considering contacting her and telling her I was wrong to end things and see if she can forgive me. Another part of me is saying that even though I may never feel a connection that strong with anyone else

    My ex did 6 months afterwards and even then i was too disgusted to even speak to him after what he did. If you do, it better be long and sincere. What’s forgiveness? You can find that in yourself. Do you have a purpose, what are you giving to her? You better tell her. She won’t care to say “I forgive you” so you better specify in your apology. Don’t make it about you.

    The second part, is all fear based. You will feel a strong connection with other people, just different.
    There’s way too many people on this earth for that to not be possible.

    I don’t know your ages or your timeline with all this, but you still haven’t left the relationship. If 2 years have gone by and you have had no contact with her and have gotten your proverbial sh*t together and spent time focusing on you and not intimate relationships and think you’re healthy enough to try again…go ahead and try contacting her again. But make it worth it, for her and yourself. Besides, if it doesn’t go well you won’t be as hurt by then. Also if she’s still bad for you you’ll have grown enough to not be attracted to emotionally unhealthy people.

    You’ll find somebody eventually. Maybe her, maybe not. I thought things with my ex would work out, true love and all that. 10 months after he dumped me for the 4th time I was married. Not to him though.

    #64092
    Jimmy
    Participant

    @Mike – I’m currently going through a recent breakup as well and I can very very closely relate to you in having a relationship that went through extreme lows, but also extreme highs. At the moment, like you, I’m still having a hard time shaking off remembering only the highs. The thing is, I can also remember the lows but the highs seems to outweigh them very strongly right now.

    I would recommend taking more time to yourself and getting over those brain chemicals that are distressing you from your old relationship. When you feel a lot more confident and less unsure, then I feel that you can contact your ex. and whatever happens, you’ll be happy with the decision, whether she’s happy to hear from you or not.


    @RB
    – I read through your advice to Mike and your insight was very powerful. I know this may seem very odd and out of the blue but as I mentioned to Mike, I am also going through an extremely rough patch. I was wondering if I might be able to contact you for advice? Thank you so much.

    #64102
    Valerie
    Participant

    Mike, I have gone through a very similar experience. I think the only way to grow is by being by yourself for a bit. Once you start to see clearly, you will know exactly what to do. Family, and friends will always advise to break it off when things are tough because they care. They do not want to see the son, or grandson hurt. At the end of the day you need to follow your gut. Everyone can give you advice, but deep down you already know what you might do. Relationships are hard. They take a lot of work, and sometimes separation is the best, because you need to be alone to love yourself first, so you can love someone else and that is a very hard thing to do. If you know in your gut it is true love, and you feel she deserves a talk, then maybe when you are in a better place where you can have an actual healthy conversation, ask her out for coffee or something casual, and speak. Feel it out, do not jump into it, talk. All relationships are different and it isn’t fair when people tell you it is suppose to be a certain outline, because it is all different. Some relationships start rocky and end up beautiful, and some are roller coasters, but just because things are horribly rough at one point, does not mean it cannot be fixed. It just takes a lot of growth and maturity. You both have to admit you are both wrong, and work and build. You have to be honest. It is hard, and it is scary, but what is meant to be is meant to be, and you never know, maybe you will end up back together and truly start a different journey in your relationship, making it healthy, or maybe a great friendship will come out. You might meet someone who is truly for you, but do not right away dismiss things, and search for something better, because sometimes the “better” is the same person just a little grown up and ready for a positive change, and chance.

    #64106
    Neelo
    Participant

    This is like reading my own diary. I was with a 4 years younger man for three and a half years. I had recently come out of a five year relationship before I met HIM. He was only 21, but so incredibly mature and good for me at the time. I remember I could clearly see the apple of his eyes grow every time he looked at me, and I could feel the same thing happening in me. It was not just physical. The connection between us, the closeness we established and the emotions that were set in motion when we were near were like a cosmic dance in the stillness of the Universe. Everything around stood still. Even when we had not started a conversation, and he could be on the other part of the room, it was like things moved around us like a magnetic field, and we would even involuntarily, even if we tried to resist end up close to each other. we could not be but near. I remember I told him that I loved him, naturally, out of the blue, that I loved him after only a few nights together. The same morning, he did not answer, but his friend told my best friend that they had never seen him as happy as that day. Our madness continued for a long time, we moved together after only a few months. Everything in our lives was chaos. Since I was elder and pretty responsible by nature, I always managed to fix our outside problems with the world, and for me his love was enough to carry the whole world. We partied a lot a the time, he eventually started to exaggerate. I eventually got exhausted, by everything, and I did not blame him, because it was my own fault trying to carry more on my shoulders that I could. I felt depressed, and losing two of my best friends to death (one in an accident and the other by disease) during the same year was not making it any better. But I started feeling that the road he way taking was bad, and I wanted him to get a grip. The more I started trying to control him, which was my biggest mistake, the bigger the gap between us grew. He suddenly wanted to start making music, dj, and go all in this new environment he had entered. I was pretty freaked out, also because I wanted our relationship to develop, I was dreaming about having a family in the long term future and I guess I acted out really stupid. I also started collecting his mistakes that hurt me and it became harder and harder to forgive and let go. More than half a year ago I ended the relationship, telling him I wanted him to get his own place, I could not see him like this anymore. I did not feel I could trust him no longer, because the party part had grown bigger than us. I wished a brighter future for myself and the way he was living right now was not getting us anywhere. It was Christmas and he went to his parents, I stayed in our hometown and went out with friends. I met a guy who bought me drinks, and was like an elder version of my own boyfriend and I turned him down because it freaked me out. When my he came home after vacation I told him that I had gotten offers, i don´t know why, maybe I was trying to get my own self-esteem up, and he was even more heart broken. He had a new apartment waiting for an answer at the phone, but he looked at me as to see if I really meant him to move, and even as firm as I was I could not do it. He said no, hanged up, and told me he was gonna fix his problems. I believed him. I tried for months after to help, but even then his problems accellerated, I guess I must have stressed him unconsciously and in the end, almost three months ago he broke up with me, telling me he could not give me what I want. He treated me like shit. And I had never been as heartbroken as I was at this point. We lived together for two more weeks before I moved out, and we acted as if we were together. Then I left. We stopped communicating. Everything started going through friends. It was horrible. I felt like someone had cut out a vital organ in me. Then I started having fun, trying to heal my heart, getting attention from other guys, always being honest about my broken heart, so I could keep a certain distance. In the meanwhile he asked a lot about me, following me through friends and started having contact with me again, but I tried to avoid him. Till I could not do it any more and started contacting him, and he ignored me. We had almost a month without any contact till we met on travel at a festival and he wanted to talk. He asked me how I was doing, he was worried about me. I said what do you think, I am hurten but Im doing my best to survive and he told me he was miserable but this was the way it had to be. He did this for me. We spent three days together from that part on and i tried to set boundries and not letting this take all my attention. Went to be with my friend again, I still had a week off but was headed home and he asked me to stay for another week, as he would fix accomodation where his friends were at. I said yes, and we had the time of our lives. We have never communicated better before. I saw him already so much grown. Then it was back home again, to reality and real life. We have spoken almost every day. We have met two times. And i feel miserable again, because we love each other but we can´t make this work out in any way. He still does so many small things that hurt me. Like being emotionally distant, so I become clingy and I don´t want that. It´s like a game, every time. You all say that the best thing is to be apart for a while, to grow separately, but why can´t we leave each other be for just one day? We are so afraid of getting back together as we could fall in the same negative patterns. But I don´t really know how to be alone. So every time I am alone and have a chance to develop, and grow I waste my time going back and forth in my head on whether I should move on, just try to focus on me , accept this “friendship”, when all i want is things to go back to how they were before it got bad. And I always fantasies about having a partner and being part of a team. I can´t seem to enjoy focusing on me, as I miss him so much. And please. don´t misunderstand, i don´t think I lack self- esteem either, I know that I am a resourceful person and I can do good. But I can´t see myself without being reflected in another person.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Neelo.
    #64107
    Kelly
    Participant

    Neelo, and any others who may benefit, I recommend the following two books:

    Obsessive Love: When It Hurts Too Much to Let Go by Susan Forward

    How to Break Your Addiction to a Person by Howard Halpern

    They helped me immensely.

    #64111
    Neelo
    Participant

    Thank you, Kelly. I understand a little more now. Still hope . But I understand what you mean, and it might be easier to let go now.

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