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  • #103638
    Anonymous
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    Hello.

    I’m writing from a desperate place in my life. I feel like I’ve lost my spiritual side and myself along with it. I’ll try to explain my situation and maybe someone will get it (psychologists didn’t, they just said that I suffer from depression and that’s it, eventhough I myself know that it’s not depression, at least not the main cause.)

    I’m Lada and I’m 23. When I was 19, my first boyfriend and I broke up and I began to go through things so much that I had spiritual awakening. I could see my potential and the voice told me that English was what was going to lead me to reaching my potential. Since then I became more spiritual and could hear my intuition better. But then came the moment when I started study English at Uni and my mind went crazy, it created an enormous resistance and made me quit after two months or so, eventhough I could hear the voice telling me that I was just resisting change in my habits and that I would have been more than okay after pushing through. Howerver, I did quit and was depressed for two months or so. Yet I could hear my intuition tell me “apply again”. I applied and found a job in a factory meanwhile. After half a year of working I started studying again and studied for year and a half. I had very good grades, but what I wasn’t realising was that I was using the information that I had learned in a language school and before I started uni but that I wasn’t changing myself at Uni and learning new things. I guess it was the job in the factory that “taught” me to just get things done and not go deeper.

    In the winter semester of the second year, things escalated as I was supposed to come up with my bachelor thesis and also write essays for a professor who was a native speaker, therefore his lessons were more demanding than others. I could feel that it was a breaking point for me to do things for myself, rewrite the essays until I was satisfied and not just get an A, come up with a bachelor thesis that I would have been excited to write, etc. At that time I realized how superficially I had been studying the year and a half, though I loved English and there had been signs the whole time pointing me to things that I’ve always wanted to do, such as writing, history, business English, painting, dancing and mainly translating. However, it was at this time that I started to open a beer when writing an essay or avoiding thinking about bachelor thesis because no matter what topic I chose, it wasn’t “it”, it wasn’t me. I was changing my thesis supervisors, topics because my heart just wasn’t satisfied with anything randomly chosen. Nobody understood why it was so important to me and why I had been chosing it for three months.. Then at one point, after some more beers and avoiding responsibiltity, I could hear the voice telling me “This is the end of your career.” I was able to finish the semester, I still got good grades from exams, but it was all learnt by heart, I didn’t actually learn the lessons behind it that I needed. My days at school in the summer semester went from bad to worse, I started making mistakes I didn’t make even at my beginnings and it was like I wanted to make the mistakes. My mind stopped wanting to learn anything new. It’s hard to describe but I just had to quit because I knew that I wouldn’t pass the summer exams.

    All of this has been happening for the past 5 months and it has been hell every.single.day. I kept going to my job but it’s the same there, stupid mistakes, not wanting to learn.

    What the voice also told me was “Your values will change. Your habits will change. You’ll be stupid, you won’t be good at anything, you will be dependent on others, on their opinions,” And I can really feel every single day how my mind gets more and more stupid, things break under my arms..

    The reason why I resist giving in so much is that until that spiritual awakening, I had been a prisoner of my own mind my whole life, I cared about what others thought to an extreme level, I tried really hard to make everyone like me, even strangers on the street, and I don’t want to go through it again. Let alone for the rest of my life.

    A part of me wants to give in, a part of me wants to jump in front of a train and a part of me wants to pack a bag, a tent and a sleeping bag and just leave, go from one state to another until I find myself again.

    Is it possible that my spiritual side and my intuition really left me for good?

    • This topic was modified 7 years, 9 months ago by tinybuddha.
    #103641
    Anonymous
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    I know people have it much worse, but I can’t see any positive future for me. I’m 23 but feel like 18 or 19 when it comes to responsibility and growth, as if the several previous years haven’t happened. My mind doesn’t want to think hard, exercise, do things I used to love, learn anything.. Even my driving skills got worse, with the voice telling me to just throw my licence away. It’s impossible to tell this to anyone, not even the psychiatrist. What confuses me is that there is much advice on TinyBuddha and basically anywhere that at any point in your life, you can listen to your intuition and turn your life around for the better. Why am I not able to do it?

    #103645
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lada:

    I am not clear about what you mean by “the voice” – can you elaborate about the nature of this voice? Is it a male or a female voice? How does it sound like: authoritative, gentle, angry…? How long have you had it?

    Also, are you living with your parents? What are your relationships with your parents…?

    anita

    #103726
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Lada,

    Yeah, the “Voice” may not be from your intuition or your Higher Self. It masquerades as that though! What would happen if you told it to go away, or be quiet? Or said, “I don’t accept that”?

    Try going with your emotions. What courses do you actually love taking? What do you actually love doing? Not what we’re good at, not what we “think” we should like. That is the Golden Path. Follow that path (without alcohol or doing anything bad for you of course). See what happens!

    Best,

    Inky

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 11 months ago by Inky.
    #103735
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    One day after writing this post and I’m more back to my “old” self than ever. The “it” in my head wants conformity, security, when I think of exercising, the answer is “what for”, when I think of studying or getting myself nice clothes, the same answer. I feel like losing weight, getting a driving licence, etc. in the past have been just crutches for me to be more responsible, confident and more myself, and now it seems like there is no point in doing it anymore, because there won’t be the lesson behind it. I don’t know why I am doing this to myself, since I had been living with a head full of insecurities most of my life and it wasn’t really a life..

    Anita: Hi. The voice is.. I don’t know, when I try to go against it, I have a tightness in my chest and say and do even more silly things. I literally heard at one point “This is the end of your career.” Then I asked and what will be then?? “Nothing”. I don’t know what it was supposed to mean.

    I live with my mother and my older brother. I get along quite well with my mother, but I always do in bad times because she’s not one to judge. When I was younger a lot of things used to irritate me about her and it’s coming back, I guess she is my mirror in some kind. My father doesn’t live with us, they divorced when I was 17. He wouldn’t give much attention to us in our childhood and I suffered from it, maybe to my adulthood, I think it is the reason why I want everyone’s approval.

    #103736
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I try to persuade myself that I wasn’t born with those traits I used to have when I was, let’s say 14 or 16, and there is no need for me to go back to my old self and relive it again.. But with the “English” career gone, I don’t feel any special and rather invisible.

    #103738
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Basically the whole underlying message is “If you want to be successful, they what are you not at school anymore realizing your dreams?” It’s like doing anything that would make me feel “successful” would make the whole “quiting school and career” thing pointless.

    #103740
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lada:

    I agree with what you stated in the original post, that depression is not the main cause of your suffering. I also agree with the last thing you wrote, that you were not born with those traits.

    The “voice”, the “it” and the “intuition” you are referring to- I would like to understand it better.

    Can you tell me what things irritated you about your mother when you were young?

    anita

    #103743
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Anything that would make her “her” and not “perfect”. I always had the urge to be perfect, that means not coughing awkwardly, not playing pantomime, not laughing with my teeth out, etc.. So when she eats noisily, gossips, when she reacts when someone is not talking to her but to some other person, when she says something stupid, simply when she does something that “shouldn’t be”, it irritates me.

    #103744
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I just went for a run, it felt quite good but my head is still like “this won’t save you”. I still wish I could go study again, just to have some more time to figure out what to do with my life and not accept the first crappy job that comes my way.. which is what I feel like doing now, as my brain is really “deteriorating”..

    Thank you for making time for me guys.

    #103746
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lada:

    It seems to me that in your mind, you and your mother are united, the two of you are as if one person when in reality the two of you are two separate people.

    It also seems to me that in your mind, The Voice is a separate entity from you, giving you criticism and instructions while in reality, that voice is part of you.

    These two things, I believe, need to be examined and worked on in the context of psychotherapy with a competent, caring psychotherapist.

    What do you think and feel about what I just wrote? Is the Voice telling you something just now or is it quiet?

    anita

    #103748
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’m seeing a psychoterapist but it’s not helping me, only for a short period of time after I leave, then it’s back to normal.

    I know that I’m kind of dependend on my mother because like I said, she never “left” me, judge me, we live together and see each other every day.. I also know she’s dependend on me and my brother, she doesn’t really have anything else.

    It’s true that every time I thought about suicide, I always thought of my mother but I later realized that it’s not my mother who would miss me or whatever, it’s a certain part of me. I just don’t know which one. I remember when I talked to a colleague during the period between my studies about moving out and I said that I wasn’t comfortable leaving my mother because she was not going to be here forever (she’s only 54). So I guess it’s not my mother, but something else..

    #103751
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I just want to undergo hypnosis and figure out at once haha.. I just don’t want to believe that the Voice is me and that I’m chosing conformity and being nobody for the rest of my life..

    #103755
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lada:

    You wrote that your mother is dependent on you (and on your brother). How is she dependent on you? What does she say and do that shows you that she is dependent on you?

    anita

    #103775
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    She says it herself that we’re all she has. She doesn’t really have friends and she blames herself a lot for our father’s leaving. She blames on herself even my current situation, she said to me “Now I won’t sleep the whole night because this you’ve been like this since he left and that’s my fault”. In September, I mentioned moving out and she just wouldn’t get over it I think, she immediately takes it personally. She doesn’t have hobbies either, I think we’re really all she has.

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