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  • #102514
    Helen
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    I was in a relationship with a guy many years ago and we had a great relationship. We understood each other, prayed together, our families got along well. We were both very young then but I felt this was the one. We were in a relationship for 6 years. Due to a medical condition I was advised to get married and have a baby when I was 24. Then his parents fussed about it saying they wanted a big wedding, and they were not ready to spend at that time. I didn’t want my parents to bear the burden of it either and felt his parents were unreasonable. I felt let down by him and his parents as I helped them financially when I could, although I was not financially stable my self. He and I fought a lot then and I broke off the relationship. He told me I was making a mistake then, but he moved on few weeks after the break-up.

    Initially I was depressed for a long time. I didn’t have any guidance on how to move on with my life. I got a challenging job, met new people but I was missing him badly. My depressed mood continued for many years. I tried to be chirpy and happy. I have tried to get into relationships with others and they all failed. First I wanted someone like him, and things to work out like it was with him in the good days. Later I tried to tell my self that it happened for the best that I achieved a lot of things I wouldn’t have achieved if I was with him. I realised I was still pining for him and told my self I was not missing him, but wishing that I had a similar relationship with someone else.

    I dated a younger guy, emotionally unavailable guys, one guy who looked like the ex, and all of these failed. I like to adopt a kid and recently I thought a lot about it but realised that I also want to have the support of a partner, and I want to be in love and bear a child of my own too. It’s 9 years since the break-up and I can’t help feel that I did make a mistake by letting go of that relationship.

    I don’t want to live my life stuck like this. I want to open up to love but something is not working right. I can’t open up to friends and family about this as they all think I have moved on from that relationship

    #102516
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi helen123,

    I know what it is to love someone over a decade later. The heart knows no time, true love is always in the Now.

    First of all, it was very wrong of his family to get that involved with the wedding. It was also wrong of him to be so influenced by them. But then, you both were young. As a mom, I don’t care if my kids get married in the town hall, frankly. The wedding’s just a ceremony and the reception’s just a dinner. Simple, lavish, what matters is the rest of your life after!

    Is it possible ~ just possible ~ to see where he is and what he’s doing now? Meet for coffee? It will probably not go anywhere, but I’m sure thirty year old him is better than twenty year old him in terms of maturity. At the very least the spell will be broken if you meet him again and he’s not all that.

    Then do a Ritual (you can make it up) releasing him once and for all. Once your heart and spirit let him go, I bet someone will immediately manifest. Nature abhors a vacuum.

    Good Luck,

    Inky

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 12 months ago by Inky.
    #102527
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear helen123:

    Did I understand correctly: as a young woman of 24 and younger, you worked and financially helped the parents of your boyfriend? And your boyfriend? …Did you financially help your parents as well, and do you now?

    Do you mean then, that in addition to you financially helping his parents, they also wanted you/ your parents to pay for a big wedding? Were they basing their demand in their perception that your parents were wealthy?

    anita

    #102566
    Helen
    Participant

    Dear Inky,

    I did contact him about 4 years ago, I wanted to tell him that I forgive him and I am sorry for what ever wrong I did to him. Something told me he needed to hear it more than me for him to move forward. He said he knew I would contact him one day, and that we were too young when we broke up and we both had our reasons for the way we behaved. He asked if I was seeing anyone and I said no, I asked him the same question and his answer was no. It was a peaceful conversation.

    A year after I moved to another country and I went through a hard time to settle down. Every time I go through hard time I think of this failed relationship. Then my father had to undergo a by-pass operation. I panicked and called him and said I am still hurting. He told me he knew I would regret breaking up one day and that he is married. I asked him if he is happy, and he said he moved on. I asked him again if he is happy and he said yes. He said the only thing he can do is listen to me and for me to call a friend and he will get us in touch as his wife would not like if she knows that I am speaking to him. I told him I don’t want to do that, to be in touch with him. I didn’t want conversations to turn to an affair.

    Now when I look back and calculate the timings of the two calls, I feel he must have been engaged/seeing the person he married when I first called him. But he didn’t tell me that information. That hurts me too as he was hiding it from me.

    #102569
    Helen
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Yes I started working when I was about 20 years. His father lost his job at that time and I paid for some of his study. His parents started a business and they wanted some money. I gave him some of my savings for that. He and I bought a car together, which was in his name and I never got back any of it after the break up.

    I didn’t help my parents financially, as my parents were less demanding and their financial needs were minimal and my father was working at that time. They never asked me to support them financially.

    My parents weren’t wealthy and they were very simple. They didn’t want a big wedding, not at the level his parents wanted. His mother called my mother and said that we can’t afford a wedding as we are poor, which hurt me.

    at first I was very upset with their demands. Later when my friends started getting married and having big weddings, I thought I should have done it. Now my friends have kids and have been together with their partners for long years and I look at them thinking I could have had that relationship with him. Its a lot of regrets.

    And especially I am not in a relationship now I feel as if I missed my opportunity. SOmetimes I feel maybe he was my soulmate and I let him go. This is universe punishing me

    #102570
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear helen123:

    No, no… the universe is not punishing you. I am sure of that. And that man was not your soulmate. I am sure of that too because for one, I don’t believe in soulmates. We can write back and forth on why your relationships haven’t worked out, and we can find the reasons. The reason is NOT some entity (Universe/ God) punishing you.

    You gave your money at the time to the guy and to his parents and did not get it back, even after he married. Not only that, but they wanted you/ your parents to pay for a BIG wedding, at the time. He sided with his parents demanding a big wedding, and fought with you over it, as I understand it. All this while your parents where not well off financially.

    When you regret having ended that relationship long ago, does that mean you regret not coming up with the money for the big wedding they wanted? Do you regret not pressuring your parents to come up with the money?

    anita

    #102573
    Helen
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Yes I do regret not doing the big wedding. At that time I didn’t but now I wish I had done it. At that time I was not financially well off. But after these years I feel I should have done it and gone with the flow. At least I would have that relationship.

    I am not happy with my life now, regrets. And it is so hard to meet someone I like and love and who loves me back

    #102574
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear helen123:

    I am sorry you are unhappy and regretful.

    If I was you, at 24, with my boyfriend and his parents insisted I came up with money for a big wedding, I wouldn’t have married the guy either. And if I gave money to the guy and his parents, as you did, and they never returned it, I wouldn’t like it.

    It is night time for me and my thinking this whole evening is … weak. I would like to come back to your thread tomorrow morning. If you would like, you can share with me any information that can help me understand (tomorrow, in 10 hours or so from now) the reasons you think your relationships since (34-33, your age now?) didn’t work?

    Can you pick up one relationship, the one that was better than the others, and describe the nature of communication, interactions, conversations… efforts: what was your part in getting closer to the man? What were his efforts?

    anita

    #102581
    Helen
    Participant

    Thanks Anita.

    After this relationship I met a guy who was three years younger than me. He loved me and was fond of me but I didn’t trust him as he was playful and I thought he was not serious with me. Sometimes he told me not to expect him to be like the guy from the previous relationship. We were good friends and I could rely on him for anything. His mother didn’t like me as I was older than him and was from a different religion. My parents didn’t approve of the relationship either. After I moved to another country he got married to someone his mother approved and he told me his wife doesn’t want him to communicate with me. So that friendship ended.

    I dated another guy who was not happy with his job and was depressed. He was emotionally unavailable, and it was very hard. I thought my parents would like him so I tried to make it work. He married someone whom his mother proposed to him.

    After a long time I opened my heart to a guy who looked a lot like the guy from the first relationship. He kept telling me we were very different and he married someone he had a long distance relationship with

    #102597
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear helen123:

    It seems to me that there are a few issues that stand in your way toward a loving relationship with a man, issues for you to consider and evaluate for accuracy or inaccuracy. These are possible issues:

    1) lack of personal autonomy: you let family rule your personal affairs. Of great importance, unfortunately to you, is who his parents think and approve of and who your parents think and approve of. It should be who you approve of and who the man approve of, the choices of two individuals, not choices of whole families on both sides.

    As far as religion goes, it is your choice whether to consider a man of a different religion. And if a man believes you are of a religion unacceptable to him, better not date that guy.

    Notice, the second guy who was depressed: he was emotionally unavailable- that should have stopped you in that relationship, but the thought of your parents approving of him made you keep going with you, a mistake, once again, because it should be an individual choice, a personal autonomy issue.

    2) Regret: if you came up with the money for a big wedding with the guy long ago, you could very well be miserable now.But you don’t know how it would have turned out. So now, that you are unhappy, you wrongly assume you would have been happy if you married him. This may very well not have been the case. If you paid for a big wedding at that time, you may have gone on giving in and pleasing him and his parents in every way they demanded. That would have made you very miserable.

    Summary: I think it is very important for you to gain personal autonomy. Not only in being able to work and pay your bills, but to aim at being emotionally NOT dependent on his parents’ approval or disapproval, or on your parents’ approval or disapproval. Such dependency worked against you so far, not for you.

    A major change in your mindset, needs to be made, is my input, for your own benefit. What do you think?

    anita

    #102670
    Helen
    Participant

    Yes Anita I agree with you.

    1. I look for approval as I felt I made a mistake with this relationship. I wasted 6 years with him and it took a very long time for me to find my self again. So I thought might as well let parents decide. Also I am very scared that i will make the wrong choice. My parents marriage was not great they used to fight a lot. I remember thinking that I never want to be in a marriage like theirs.

    2. Yes I often think that if I did marry him we wouldn’t have had a happy marriage as his parents would influence a lot. And I will be miserable

    before I started the relationship with him I was very creative and loved reading books, listen to music and spend time with friends. the 6 years with him were very closed. I fell out with most friends and didn’t do anything else other than spend time with him. We saw each other almost everyday. Everything was based on him , and getting him to study and getting him up to speed with his work. after the breakup I found my self again, started reading, and I achieved a lot which i wouldn’t have done if i had married him. So i do know that things have turned good for me because I took a different turn. But why is it so hard to find the one who would be a perfect match for me?

    #102681
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear helen123:

    First, your own parents proved to me that their advice for you on who to marry has not and will not be a valuable advice because they weren’t able to get along themselves for years, maybe always, and sadly, they weren’t capable of providing a safe, calm home for you. So it would be foolish to aim at getting their approval. Please remind yourself of this point when you forget it.

    Second, it is quite clear to me that you wouldn’t have been happy if you were married to that guy long ago. Whenever you regret not marrying him, your regret is based on fantasy, not reality. Please remind this point to yourself… when you forget. (We do tend to forget).

    Why is it so hard to find the one who would be a perfect match for you, you asked.

    First, I would get rid of the expectation of a “perfect” match. A good-enough match will do. If you expect a perfect match, as there is no such thing as a perfect person, once again, fantasy will stand in your way.

    Second, you evaluate a man to figure out, over time, if he is a good enough match. As you discard any thoughts about your parents approving or disapproving of him, make your own evaluation. Finding a good enough match is not a passive endeavor depending on fate or luck. It should be an active process. You STUDY the man, over time. Just as when you look for a dress to buy, you wouldn’t buy the first one you see, without studying the dress: is the size correct? Is it a day dress or a night dress… what does it take to wash it (laundry or dry clean) and so forth. You study the dress, learn about it: how it looks, how it fits, how it washes, does it need ironing, etc. Same with a man, only you take MORE time.

    You look around the store, you study the dresses available. Coming to think about it, why don’t you write here what kind of a man would be a good enough match for you (similar to writing what kind of a dress you would be looking for)? Be as detailed as you can be, covering any relevant value and preference that applies to you.

    anita

    #102765
    Helen
    Participant

    1) well I look for physical attraction. This is most important. Although I haven’t met anyone who i am physically attracted to in a long time.
    2) He has to be of my religious faith
    3) compatible – look for someone who is simple yet likes to enjoy good things in life
    4) hard workers – achieved things by him self
    5) honesty – no covering up of his wrong doings
    6) Bold yet kind hearted

    #102777
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear helen123:

    I like your list, clear and straight forward. Your chances of finding a good enough match following your guidelines above are way, way…way better than if you follow the past guideline: will my parents approve of him?

    Very clear. Regarding physical attraction, if the man is not clearly unattractive, it is possible to feel attraction on a second, third… later date, do you think? If so, I would give it a few dates.

    I like honesty very much. Over time you can learn this: does he take responsibility for his wrong doings or does he blame others time and time again. You can learn that from how he talks about others: are they always the ones at fault and he is the eternal victim? And then you can learn this aspect when there is conflict between the two of you.

    Hard working, bold and yet kind hearted. I like these too. Now, how are you going to go about meeting men to study and evaluate? Maybe online dating? If so, you can write your profile there indicating what you are looking for, basic things about you, and then have access to men to study and evaluate. Again, it is taking the active approach and you do need to meet men. If online dating or another dating service is something you will consider, there is a way to do it that you can decide on ahead of time, so that you start with a useful and doable strategy.

    What do you think?

    anita

    #103017
    Helen
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Yes online dating is one way I should look at. I guess it will be best to note these attributes in my profile as what I am looking for.

    There is something else I want to mention. Last night I had a dream.I dreamt there was a guy whom I liked and who was also reciprocating that feeling. I cannot recall the face/who that person was. But my ex and his mother came over to our house with him. I don’t recall the exact conversations but I said something about them hurting me. And his mother spoke up and said that I was having a cancer which is why they didn’t like to go ahead with the marriage. At this point I got very angry and told about what actually happened. I felt that they were trying to justify why they abandoned me. In the dream this made me very angry and I felt better after I told what actually took place long ago.

    Maybe I am thinking a lot about this. However it has been very healing to write here and the responses from you and the others helped me to iron out my wrongful thinking

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