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  • #100631
    Sona
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    Hi,
    I’m looking for an advice..

    I was very depressed 5 years ago, on meds etc then started therapy and somehow the first time when I saw my therapist I felt really connected and close to him and within a few sessions I developed a very strong attachment with him. However any sign that he doesn’t care felt like a rejection and my trauma used to kick in – that i’m a bad person, felt frozen etc..There are many times I had to take a break from him for a few weeks as it was very painful to see him.
    He triggers me so much, as a result staying in his office made me stronger at the same time my attachment grew stronger too. It’s been 4 years , I have improved my life somewhat but it still hurts so much to see him, every week I get triggered, takes me 2 days to reset then I get stronger again. Sometimes I feel like i’m trying to hard to be stronger to impress him as I have very strong attachment with him.

    My question is, thinking of stopping therapy makes me feel very lost but i’m tired of getting hurt and sometimes it makes me wonder even after 4 years the idea of leaving him brings trauma so what did i gain?

    It’s very difficult for me to let go of the attachment at the same time I’m afraid of getting hurt again and again..Please advise what to do..

    Thanks
    =S

    #100634
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear sona:

    You bring a good point: after four years of therapy, you shouldn’t be in the same state as you were at the beginning of therapy: being distressed every time you see him and taking a couple of days to reset.

    Attachment to a person who listens to you with empathy is understandable. Natural. Therapists are trained to work with this attachment that is part of the process.

    What improvement did you experience since the beginning of therapy? Did your relationships with family members change as a result? Do you view them differently than before? Did you make new relationships since the beginning of therapy, an intimate one?

    anita

    #100650
    Sona
    Participant

    Thank you so much for the reply Anita, I really appreciate that.

    The first improvement is, I’m not on my meds anymore, I started meditation. I learned how to hold the pain now. I’m not that afraid at work, doing well, made some friends at work, improved my relationship with my parents. However, I don’t have any intimate relationship – I’m only involved with my therapist. I am so glad that you said it’s natural to create this attachment, however, whenever I bring to his attention that I have strong feelings, he doesn’t say it’s ok, he just listens. As a result, i feel even worse.

    He inspired me to be a better person but going to his office, every week, my hands sweat and it’s a huge process for me – I do know that therapy can be difficult but is it this difficult? He brings up an intense desire in me to be in a loving relationship..and by meditation I realized that I need lot of self compassion – I try to love myself unconditionally but it’s difficult.

    I think i’m very afraid that i will be lost without him..

    #100654
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear sona:

    Achieving independence from psychiatric drugs is a very, very good thing. I see he taught you skills to regulate intense emotions, such as meditation as well as interpersonal skills that help you function better at work.

    On the other hand he should have discussed with you the topic of your attachment to him. I don’t understand why he only listened. Your attachment to him is something he should be extremely aware of as it must have been a big part of his training, attending to this attachment. No wonder you feel uncomfortable about feeling so attached to him- you are alone with this attachment, not validated, not told it is natural… in this important aspect, your therapy is lacking.

    I would bring it up to him… again, and this time tell him you need his input. I wouldn’t proceed in therapy with him unless he attends to your attachment of him significantly.

    Some therapists say that they know therapy is no longer needed when the client/ patient develops an intimate, satisfactory relationship outside therapy. They think of therapy as a Healing Relationship that can end when the patient has a new healing relationship outside therapy.

    Please post again, especially if you do take my advice in the next session.

    anita

    #100655
    Sona
    Participant

    Thank you again for the reply Anita.

    I feel better now and please correct me if I am wrong, but I think if I discuss in detail my feelings towards him and then exploring those feelings together in a therapeutic way will make me aware of the meaning of this attachment and hopefully once I develop an intimate relationship outside i will not get triggered that much as I would have understood the attachment better?

    Right now, I am so afraid to even try to start an intimate relationship as I believe that i’ll screw up because of my trauma..and because i have so many patterns..I think that i’m not a relationship person.

    #100656
    Sona
    Participant

    One more thing I would like to add Anita is, sometimes i sit in the whole session thinking that he hates me, he wants me out, so it did teach me tolerance for my pain – rejection feelings. However, when I ask him do you hate me, he says no. We don’t go any further.

    I believe, what you are suggesting is I should explore these feelings deeper, like why I feel like this as I’m in therapy for 4 years now..

    Thank you in advance-

    #100657
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear sona:

    We are all “relationship people” because we are born social animals, so by design we are relationship people.

    If you discuss your feelings toward your therapist with him, you should as a result of exploring those feelings with him, understand that it is natural to get attached to another. From our very beginning we got attached to our main caretaker. Animals do it. I see fawns following their mothers deer into the forest. They follow because they are motivated to follow by their attachment to the mother. It is as natural as nature is. And if you have romantic, even sexual dreams or daydreams about your therapist, that is natural too.

    The therapist should help you understand that it is natural and that he accepts your feelings while he keeps his relationship with you professional (not physically intimate in any way, no words of affection not appropriate to a professional therapeutic context…)

    Then if you were to attempt an intimate relationship in your private life, he could help you with it, step by step.

    Once you develop an intimate relationship outside, sure, you will feel less attached to your therapist.

    Did I answer your question? Please let me know, ask again in a different way, until we understand each other.

    About your fears of starting an intimate relationship… this is it: if you and your therapist talked about your attachment feelings for him, if he shared things about himself with you (as is appropriate)- you would be taking the first steps with him in developing an intimate relationship with a man. That way, you would have a good experience to give you confidence with starting an intimate relationship outside therapy.

    anita

    #100659
    Sona
    Participant

    Thank you I think I understood somewhat.

    I’ll write again next Friday after my session.

    Thanks again for your help..since I always ended up having a hollow feeling after a session and it takes a toll on my physical and mental health, especially I believe that I am a bad person for attachment and so forth..hence, I was desperate to get some advice. So, thank you again!

    #100661
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear sona:

    You are welcome. You can write next week or before, if you’d like. We can communicate here for as long as you want.

    That hollow feeling following a session, I think I am familiar with that kind of feeling and the need to recover. Looking back at my life before my first successful therapy five years ago, i remember that feeling attached to anyone disturbed and distressed me so much that I needed to stop contact with whomever I felt attached to so to regain a feeling of safety, that was my own resetting. When I felt attached, it felt heavenly for a short while, as if I was safe, a dream like state… but then, being away from that temporary object of my attachment (often a stranger, really)- all hell broke loose in my mind. The distress was too intense.

    It reminds me of being away from my mother when I was young, how unbearable it was. I remember that fear of being away from her. Maybe that fear was the trigger for the distress in me following the experience of every single attachment.

    Feeling attached itself signaled danger for me. In my mind there was a strong connection between feeling attached and danger.

    I think it is the pain my mother inflicted on me that hurt so much because I was attached to her, hence attachment and pain became strongly associated.

    Do you relate to this…?

    anita

    #100663
    Sona
    Participant

    Yes, I can relate to that. I’m so attached and the same time I am afraid that he will reject me. I feel safe at the same time I feel unsafe.

    Hence, when I come back from the session, sometimes I do Rick Hanson guided meditations – feeling safe (he starts by saying that imagine we are safe, we have enough oxygen etc), feeling cared about etc..

    When I have that hollow feeling, all i want at that time is someone to hug me and say I am ok..you are good, you are not a bad person.
    I feel so helpless and hopeless at that time. I have a very strong feeling at that time that people will reject me if they get to know me.

    In that hollow feeling, I feel like noone will love me, i’m all alone..I feel so disconnected from the world.. I guess that’s why
    sometimes I want my therapist so bad as I feel like if I have him all the time, he will protect me as he does give me some safety.

    #100664
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear sona:

    Right here, on this forum, is an opportunity for you to connect when you feel disconnected. I for one will reply to you every time I see a message from you. If I am on the computer and I see a message from you, I will read it and answer. If you post and I don’t answer, it means I am not online.

    It is about connecting. I need to connect and so do you, so here is such place. Such place to take a little risk about getting to be known. It is safe in that you can always turn off the computer and you can stay away for as long as you need to.

    anita

    #100669
    Sona
    Participant

    Thank you so much Anita, that’s a very powerful and kind statement you made that I can count on this forum..Thank you!! I’ll take your offer..:)

    wow, today I am able to reset in less than a day..that’s a progress..Even though I am not that “special” in my therapist life, I should look at what I have in my life and how I can live my full life, may he be happy in his life and may I find love someday but i’ll not wait and look for love,,i’ll try to connect (its’ difficult but may I have strength)..live my life..

    Thank you again , may God bless you!

    #100675
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear sona:

    You are welcome! I too wanted to be “special” in someone’s mind and life. I didn’t know I was already special.

    I can hardly believe I am typing this, that I am special. That was impossible for me to write before, being special. I had no idea what it meant before. I thought if I was rich and famous, maybe then I would be special.. or if a person loved me and only me, if I conquered a man’s past and future so there was no one else in his life, then I would be special.

    I thought being special meant being more than other people, more.. more worthy.

    I didn’t know what Special meant. Now I know it does not mean being more worthy than anyone else. And I know it does not mean becoming everything in another person’s life, his past, present, future and the only person in his life. Now I know, now I am getting to know. This is quite amazing.

    anita

    #100919
    Sona
    Participant

    Hi Anita,
    From yesterday I again started feeling uneasy that I have to see my therapist and the hollow feeling came back. I was enjoying my life – talking to friends, feeling safe and fine for two days and then yesterday evening as soon as thought came on my mind of seeing him, I started panic. It feels like it has created a trauma in my life – for so many years i get anxious seeing him, after that i am miserable for 2 days then enjoy and cycle goes on.

    So, yes, he did help me in certain areas but in some areas he fell short , and yes, it will be great for me to communicate directly with him and take care of my trauma , but I feel tired..I have learned enough from him, yes, may be if I keep going I will get more insight about me, but I feel like it’s enough..

    May be he is good for me but right now i have to be gentle and kind towards me and take care of me..if that would mean i’ll take a break from the therapy and stay imperfect for a while, let it be..

    Please let me know if I’m making any sense here?

    Thanks,
    -S

    #100924
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear sona:

    I believe you are making good sense. If I was you, I too would take a break and maybe decide later to end the therapy with him. He may very well have fallen short. Like I wrote to you before, this very cycle of you panicking/ feeling distressed before seeing him and then taking a couple of days to reset/ return to normal- this should have been discussed when it started or shortly after. The fact that it was not discussed raises a big red flag for me regarding the effectiveness of the therapy.

    After all, it should help you with your attachment/ separation anxiety, not re-create one and keep it going in the relationship with him!

    Do take care of yourself. I understand he was helpful, but psychotherapists are as limited as their own healing is, from their own issues. They can’t go farther than their own journeys in their own lives. Education and certification can take you only a certain distance and not beyond.

    Post anytime…

    anita

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