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    Jon
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    Hello everyone, thanks for taking the time to read this and being active on this site in general. I have a problem that brought me to this site some time ago and it seems to constantly come back up for me, so i figured I’d throw it out there and see if anyone has similar issues or experiences.

    My life philosophy is centered around the idea that we are all connected in some way, and so should treat everyone and everything with love, compassion, and kindness. I fail at this regularly, but strive to maintain empathy for both others and myself. I am in a long term relationship with someone who thinks very differently and I am not sure if staying with her is accepting her as she is, or settling for less than what I want out of a partner.

    I do love her, and she has many qualities that I both admire and aspire to. She is very active and we hike, surf, and workout together. She likes to eat healthy and we love to cook together. She loves sports, is social, has a good relationship with her family, etc…
    But she has zero empathy for anyone. She sometimes even relishes in being mean to people (sometimes that person is me). She dislikes when people tell her their problems, ask her for advice, or generally ask for any effort from her whatsoever.

    In some regards its admirable, to know you are not a very empathetic person and be very upfront with that. We are not all built the same and have different emotional capacities and being aware of that is good. In other respects it is very tiring for me, as she seems to be constantly spouting negative energy and refuses to see anyone’s perspective but her own. This leads to all kinds of arguments, both inconsequential and important. And her lack of empathy can result in a small minded approach to situations, where her immediate thought is the only right one and she doesn’t waiver or compromise or back down. This can be frustrating and often leads to her doing what she wants, and me either tagging along or doing something else entirely. The flip side is that she is very independent and allows me to do things on my own, and isn’t overly needy when I don’t go with her.

    I fully accept that is the way she is and try to give my perspective, usually advocating that treating people with kindness takes less effort than constantly throwing shade at everyone, but it feels a lot like I’m lecturing her and I don’t like that. I’ve taken to just listening and not offering my two cents. I don’t think she has even noticed really.

    And don’t get me wrong, she has more than her share of moments where she exhibits empathy and understanding. Her default setting is generally negative though. Almost every morning she lists things she doesn’t like about how the house is, things I don’t help with, or something dumb our roommate has done. Not always, but sometimes, one of those negative comments really touches on something with me, and I usually spend way too much time going through a negative spiral of thoughts for that morning. The kicker is if I let it go, she will completely forget about it too, so is that my hang up?

    Every relationship has these push and pull aspects. Not every partner will vibe with every single thing you do. I’ve read it is natural for people to get 80% of what they want in a relationship, but obsess over the 20% they perceive as missing. The grass is always greener. So my question is, how does one know when to let some expectations go and stay in a relationship, or that the person is actually incompatible? Is it accepting flaws in our partner, or settling for less than what we really want?

    #126078
    dave
    Participant

    This is almost my exact situation right now. It’s really difficult to work out, especially when you really do love them. I hope you find an answer soon.

    #126097
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear wavestorm:

    My answer: if your girlfriend often doesn’t have empathy for you, and is sometimes abusive to you, then you are settling. If she is selectively empathetic to people while often empathetic to you and never abusive to you or to others, then accept her.

    anita

    #126122
    Peter
    Participant

    Great questions!

    ”One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light but by making the darkness conscious.”
    “Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.” – Jung

    Relationships are the crucible in which we discover ourselves.

    As you noted there is always push and pull in relationships as part of the purpose of relationships is to heal old wounds. Not only wounds created in the present but wounds that a person may have brought forward from childhood most of which are unconscious.

    Your girlfriend general negativity in the morning is likely a play she created in which you play a role with the unconscious goal of healing. The role you play within that story will either confirm the fear behind the negativity or bring the fears into the light and healed. Sadly it is often true that due to our limitations that sometimes the pain of a relationship ending must be experienced in order to push someone to heal the past.

    When we fall in love, this usually ushers in a special period, one with its own distinctive glow and magic. Glimpsing another person’s beauty and feeling, our heart opening in response provides a taste of absolute love, a pure blend of openness and warmth. This being-to-being connection reveals the pure gold at the heart of our nature, qualities like beauty, delight, awe, deep passion and kindness, generosity, tenderness, and joy.

    Yet opening to another also flushes to the surface all kinds of conditioned patterns and obstacles that tend to shut this connection down: our deepest wounds, our grasping and desperation, our worst fears, our mistrust, our rawest emotional trigger points. As a relationship develops, we often find that we don’t have full access to the gold of our nature, for it remains embedded in the ore of our conditioned patterns. And so we continually fall from grace.
    Intimate Relationship as a Spiritual Crucible – By John Welwood

    Life which is love requires growth and becoming. Even a relationship where two people who have a great soul connection might have to end if the goals of two people point in different directions. That their calling/becoming might require the end of a relationship.

    Have you ever asked yourself the question – What’s love got to do with it? You love someone, authentically, yet know that the relationships does not mean it should be one in which you remain together. Life which is love requires growth and becoming.

    My observation has been that relationships are experienced multidimensionality – mind, body, and soul. We experience relationship in the day to day stuff of life, – taking out the garbage, cooking, cleaning, working… and then at a deeper level, spiritually, our senses of self and possibility… Both must be present for authentic relationship but more often than not we tend to pay attention to only one dimension and in doing so weight it too heavily. For example money troubles dominate and the spiritual sense of possibly we experience when we were with our partner is forgotten and neglected.

    I was asked the other day what is the main attribute I look for a partner.
    My answer is someone that does not panic when the love they experience in the various dimensions ebbs and flows.

    Very much like the book ‘How to Be an Adult: A Handbook on Psychological and Spiritual Integration’ by David Richo

    #126129
    Gratefulheart
    Participant

    Dear wavestorm,

    I would suggest you to trust your instict. The very fact that you have started feeling differen
    now about her nature(being cold to others issues) and posting here means there is an issue tht needs to be addressed. Good that you are thinking about it instead of just being blind about it. See for yourself in some more instances whether her behavior is acceptable to you or not and then decide on wats best for you.

    Good luck!

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