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  • #113295
    jade green
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    Hi, it’s been 2 years since I got some advice from the people here after one of the life charging breakup I have.

    I finally met a man after 2 years. Who persistently chased me. Nothing much to describe of him, besides I’m really happy with him. He seem to spend a lot of effort, money and time for me. He’d do all the house works just so I could come home without stress after work while he’s busy with his own job.

    He told me that he broke up with his ex 2 months prior meeting me.

    I’ve seen him texting her when we started knowing each other better, and he lied to her that he’s at work although he’s with me. I questioned him about it and he said he doesn’t want her to think there’s another person (me) causing the break up and it’s not been very long since they separated.

    I’ve always had my doubts, his story had always been consistent but never feel quite right to me. We’ve now been together to close to 4 months. I’ve asked him plenty of times and he always say the the same, he broke up in March.

    I had enough of doubts, I asked him two nights ago, I say this is your last chance to tell the truth. He said the same. When I mentioned I will ask her ex about it, he went quiet. I asked again, he just said he already told me the truth and it’s up to me to believe him.

    And as anyone could guess, he lied. I texted him and said ‘she said you lied’. He called me in the middle of the night yesterday.

    I told him that the has one last chance to tell the truth. He did. He broke up with her after one of our dates. That was when he aggressively started chasing me. He said it wasn’t because of me. It was a dead end for both of them anyway. Her father passed away and she ran back to her country. She realised that there is no way she could leave her family and thus, he said there was no point in it anymore. It was actually a good 9 months after she flew back.

    He cried a lot during the call. He said he reallt want to be with me for a life time. That he had never felt so sure in 28 years of his life. He had no choice but to lie. He kept up the lie because he was afraid that I would leave him as I have told him before that I will not tolerate lies and I will leave if lied to. Things became sexual between us a week after his break up, with me still clueless about it not being months ago. Embarrassingly, I gave him my virginity I kept for over 25 years for marriage. I know how stupid it sounds, but I too felt like it’s going to last forever. I’m not unattractive, I have lots of pursuers, I was in long term relationships before and yet I kept my virginity so tightly because it was really important to me.

    We made plans for our future together, how to get our jobs to be closer together and which state to move to in a year time.

    I told him I couldn’t be with him anymore and that I can never trust him anymore. If he could cheat on her, he can cheat on me. I told him to not come over to my city today, as he was coming to find me for over the bank holiday. He begged me. And begged me. “you’re the only person I’ve ever opened up to. Not even my exes, not even my mom, you’re the first person who knows what’s deep inside me, please give me another chance.”

    Dear people. I… Don’t know what to do. I’m beyond hurt to give a chance. I feel like a trash. It’s as if he couldn’t get her, and he settled for me. But I love this man. I know virginity may not be anything big in this Era, but I’ve given this man everything. My heart my body and my soul. Please if you all can just guide me. Because I’m more lost than just lost.

    #113298
    Lester
    Participant

    I truly believe that everyone we meet serves a purpose in our life. I met a girl once that I fell in love with. We had a short relationship but it’s not long before she found another. It was painful, sure. I didn’t realize it at the time but this experience was necessary for me. The pain of this break up encouraged me to go on adventures, travel to unknown places, meet strange people, try out strange foods, learn new skills. I wouldn’t have known I love to make things out of wood and garden if it wasn’t for my break up haha. Looking back now, I’m happy at the way things turned out. I wouldn’t change a thing.

    For you, I think this person is there to teach you a lesson on strength and courage. From the description, he sounds like a manipulative person, a functional sociopath, only saying things his target wants to hear in order for them to like him. It seems as though it’s working on you. But it’s not your fault, or his. Sociopathic behaviors are like storms, they just happen. So, my advice is to use this situation to beef up your fortress (Strength and Courage) to wither the storm. Have the strength to see through his illusions and the courage to live a life without this person.

    Good luck!

    #113316
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call him a sociopath, but clearly this guy cheated and lied about it. This is clearly a big deal to you, and as you say, he might do it again. Of course, someone who has never cheated and lied can still do so; there’s a first time for everything. What I’m saying is, there’s no way to have a fool-proof, definitely going to work, zero cheating risk relationship.

    I wouldn’t be so hasty to throw this away, it seems you’re important to each other. Instead of begging you, maybe he can explain how things are going to be different in the future. What’s he going to do if he meets someone he feels attracted to? What’s he going to do when he’s trapped in a lie and he knows he needs to tell you something that’s going to make you mad?

    These are difficult questions. But the way he answers them is going to be worth a lot more than his “You’re the only one who knows me!” or any kind of “I’ll be true forever, pinkie-swear!” That doesn’t really mean anything, you know?

    If you give him another chance (and you don’t have to), don’t just let him promise to never do it again. Get him to tell you how things are going to be different, what he’s going to do differently. It’s no good giving someone a second chance if they have no plan for how to be better.

    Love is hard. Hope this is useful.

    #113317
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jade green:

    Am I understanding correctly: he told you that the relationship with his ex girlfriend was over two months before he met you while in reality the relationship with her ended while he was in a relationship with you but a week before you and him became sexual?

    If I understand correctly, I don’t see this relationship as a lost cause. It is unfortunate of course, that he lied to you but his saving grace- in my mind (of course, YOUR mind is what counts in your life)- is that the relationship with her was over BEFORE you and him became sexually involved.

    If he has been a good man and partner to you and is a decent man otherwise, then this may be a part of the Human Imperfection we have to accept. It may be too big of an issue to you, so you decide of course what is an acceptable imperfection for you.

    Hope you post again: I will be glad to communicate with you further on the matter.

    anita

    #113333
    Lakra
    Participant

    Dear Jade,

    it seems to me that being truthful is important to you and i´m behind you on that. It´s one thing to lie about little things but lying about a relationship is a whole different level. In the end the decision lies with you whether you think you can forgive and trust him or you cant. Because let´s be straight if you cant forgive and trust him this relationship is a lost cause.
    In my circle of friends i had only one friend with a similiar situation to yours who decided to forgive and who is happily married now. The majority (including me) ended up less lucky. You know the man you love.So if you can find it in your heart to forgive him and give him a chance – that´s your answer. But if you can´t that´s fine too. You have loved once and you will love again.
    I wish you all the best *big hug*. 加油!

    Lakra

    #113458
    LLB
    Participant

    Well, I don’t know. I was the “other woman” once as well, but in this case I know *exactly* why this was and why the guy left me for her. I know therefore that I could give him another chance if, if, and if.

    About virginity, however. I know some believe there is an angry god in the sky waiting to punish them to hell fire eternal if they have sex with someone they’re not married to. I don’t happen to share this belief, but everyone’s beliefs are their own.

    In my case, however, I had a TERRIBLE case of endometriosis, which caused me to need both ovaries and my uterus removed at age 35. Which wouldn’t have been such a big deal, I guess, if I hadn’t waited to have sex until I was 32.

    I know we all think, kids are 16, 17, 18, there’s plenty of time for that, wait, wait, wait, wait. But the truth is that life goes by in the blink of an eye. The fact is that when you are in your twenties, that is when your body looks its best, feels its best, and works the way it’s supposed to. If you are going to have endometriosis or some other female problem, it tends to start when you hit your thirties. If you wait too long to have sex, then when you are finally able to have it your body may not function as it should, especially if you have never had an orgasm and now you have to learn at the ripe old age of 35 or something. Then we women hit menopause and perimenopause, and sexual desire goes way down, tissues get dry and thin, and things don’t work the way they should anymore. Your joints start to hurt. Your stomach is huge, you get cramps “during” when you didn’t before, and who knows what other health problems may come up.

    Believe it or not, one day we will all reach that age when health issues come up and we will discover that, like it or not, we have had or enjoyed sex for the very last time we ever will. It happens sooner if you are a female, and for some of us a whole lot sooner than we would like. Some of us “waiting til marriage” may never get married, or if we finally do, may find that it’s only a few short years and then our sexual lives are over.

    So think about that, before making such a huge deal about virginity. I was raised religious and when it was all said and done, the man I eventually married didn’t give a crap whether I was a virgin or not and neither did I. But now that I am almost fifty, I see where female problems threaten to cut my sex life short, and I am very grateful when things work as they should and I know the time is coming soon when they won’t anymore. So, think about that, and put it in perspective.

    #113499
    jade green
    Participant

    Dear friends,

    Thank you so much for guiding me when I needed directions. Reading your replies, I thought and thought about it. It wasn’t easy for me to decide. And I finally called him up and told him that I ‘want’ to forgive him. A part of me was breaking as I said that.

    It’s complicated. So complicated. I can’t really describe what’s in my mind. A part of me is extremely happy. A part of me is filled with hurt and sadness, and perhaps some anger.

    I told him that it’s really taking everything of me. I don’t want to hold grudges, I don’t want to keep a score. That’s not what I want. But there are times I might not be able to be fully kind and forgiving. There will be times I will question things and be upset about it. But I try. I will really try.

    He broke down and said thank you. I’m not sure if im fully satisfied with his explanation. When I told him there’s no need to actually lie in the first place. And he agreed after a brief period of silence. He admitted that he was selfish and was only thinking about how much he wanted to be with me, and that he knows if he told me the truth I would have want nothing to do with him, even if he broke off with her. (I told him before that I will not involve myself with a man who is taken or is healing from a broken heart).

    I don’t know where this is going to take us. But like some of you have said, I know how important he is to me and it seems like the same the other way around…. As long as he’s not a sociopath…?

    #113502
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jade green:

    Congratulations for making your decision. You wrote that you: ” told him that I ‘want’ to forgive him. A part of me was breaking as I said “-

    This is what I understand from your latest post: you decided to forgive him but you know that to forgive him is not a one-time event. It is and will be a process that will take time and effort on your part- and will require his patience and understanding.

    You decided to forgive him, that is, you expressed to him your willingness to forgive him. Of course, you wish to no longer feel your hurt and anger. And maybe he wishes too, that there will be no more hurt and anger on your part. But there is and will be, for a time to come. And so, this issue is not over yet.

    There are consequences to actions. He lied to you so to keep it and therefore he will pay the price. The price he has to pay is not losing you, at this point, but that he has to endure your hurt, your (non-abusive) anger. He has to support you through your process of forgiving him.

    And through this process he has to not lie to you, he has to earn more and more of your trust.

    Do post anytime.

    anita

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