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Murtaza
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you clearly expressed your opinion that he (as a “normie”) is intellectually inferior to you

no, i actually think normies is superior, in some aspects, such as life, i wouldn’t use inferior or intellectual, and i never claimed to be intellectual, but when it come to understanding myself and my situation, i am better at judging and advising, i admit i was a bit mad by his replay, anytime i hear an advice, that means two things A. the person doesn’t understand me B. he maybe right and im wrong, and i feel guilty, guilt is something i can’t endure, i have a lot of it, and i come online to just have less, part of not believing in freewill was i think to reduce guilt, the thing is with guilt i never follow it, i can’t remove it, and i can’t follow it, either way i will suffer, but at least with not following it i won’t give up to it, let him control me

 

 that you are intellectually superior to them

im really not, when it comes to intellectual they are better, since i don’t value knowledge, and i don’t care much to be smart or intellectual, again i never said i am intellectual, it may sound like i feel superior to norimes, but infact im not, im inferior to them, in most aspects, whether its money/knowledge/social skills/work etc, one thing that im better at, is building my own value system and beliefs, that fit my personality, less struggles, less pain, but really this values and beliefs only works for me, one thing that i feel superior from norimes, is not caring about having my basic needs met, not needing anyone or anything, even needs themselves, i actually re defined needs, for me needs is something you can’t live without, and by can’t i mean death, not misery, not basic desires

 

this is simply a recipe for misery and pain, infinite suffering, i really know what the next move is, the only right move

 

 and it is wrong to treat others as such

really? tell that to society, that has been treating me as inferior my whole life, wrong you say? by what stander, who said its wrong? i simply use the norime to label people that can’t and won’t understand me, a waste of my time and effort, a lot of pain will come from them, a lot of guilt, i have to label them, to convince my mind that they are wrong, and they are, its simply a shortcut i once thought about for a long time.

 

particularly people reaching out to you with the intent to help you

their help hurts me, every time, maybe to them its just help, to me its a lot of guilt and frustration, a lot of pain, unnecessary pain, why should i take all this ? just because they think they are helping ? im tired of treating people good at my expense, and i know most people will say the same things, the same (boring/little proofs/taking from their pov who is very much affected by society) thing “a permanent solution to a temporary problem” of course you will say that, all your problems have been  temporary, or you too stupid to realize that some problems are permanent. no one will say this without being a norime

 

he is not intellectually inferior to you

i tell you what, from the little interaction i had with him, and knowing me, he is infact superior to me

 

 We have to tolerate differences without judging them as inferior, or superior

even if different means a lot of pain? what’s the point then ? i have little tolerance for unnecessary pain, especially when it something i don’t value, especially when i can avoid such pain, and don’t tell me this pain can be good, i had enough of it to know its useless, that suffering at large isn’t that great, as a human im programmed to avoid pain and go for pleasure, unless i have some kind of value that can top that

 

 then what you were saying is that you want to interact with me so to feel better, but not so to consider anything I say as a motivation to make any practical change to your life

yes its true, and i said this many times, i never wanna change, i prefer death, its either my way, or no way, and i did used you to feel good, i see people as a resource, unless its a really nice person that can understand me, sadly you do fit in that category

 

 I am sure that it is not true that no one hurt you

the did hurt my past self, not me though, the here and now me, thats the real thing, thats the one that can’t be hurt, my past self doesn’t exist anymore, only a fraction

 

 but I have no doubt that you deeply cared for others early on

sure, i used to care about my mother a lot, last week i was caring for this girl who i loved, and she showed enough evidence not to care, i felt i was desperate, but really why should i even care about a person that doesn’t care about me, and believe me no amount of “feeling” will tell me who to care and who to not care about, i use my mind for such things

 

You were hurt, you got angry, and nothing you felt and did made any difference, so Nothing Matters

apathy is my greatest virtue

 

there is NO proof that Fantasy can substitute Reality

in where i live ? yes there is no proof, although i will have to twist reality real hard to have such fantasy, what if like all things in my life, imagining it is better then having it ? so i will do this whole thing, just for a reward, a hope, NO, i won’t, its either i enjoy the whole journey, and not caring about what reward i get, or i don’t go at all, also my life have enough proofs to the superiority of fantasy

 

and you are absolutely resisting any learning unless there is proof that such learning will guarantee you personally a better life. Because such proof is impossible to come by… you are not open to learning anything different from what you already know.

and that’s why i think death is the next logical step, you do get it now? i just wish someone tell me this truth, that yes, it is, in this whole stinky world, there is a person that validate me, validate my thinking

 

free will exists. I have proof

not to me 😀

 

this is not “best life” in any reputable dictionary anywhere in the world

in my situation, in my mindset, in where i live, this is the easiest and less painful life there is, i have tried the normal one from where i live, it doesn’t fit me, at all, it goes beyond what i think and feel and value and belief, and its not them, its me, im the imposter and its my fault, and for one time in my life, i want to do a kind thing for myself, a really kind thing, an act of love, to rest finally once and for all, no more infinite guilt, no more unnecessary pain

 

I don’t know if my luck ran out already and I have joined the “normies”, in your mind

its not luck, its basic understanding of my situation, and you never said some normie stuff to me, you did leave when you knew me, and that was a normie thing, i actually expected it, and i still do, i always consider the worse possible outcome, you think that normie is a bad word, when it actually not, i already told you my definition of the word, i simply mean people that can’t understand me, that can’t accept some people are doomed, some people like me, and the best option for these people is to spear them away, i just wanna hear it, this truth, form someone like you, i don’t wanna hear anything, i wish i was wrong, i wish you tell me im wrong, that its not like that, that i will be loved, that i will have what i want, but we both know that this isn’t gonna happen, there is a part of me, still hopes that i might be wrong, that i might have what i want without changing, tell me the truth

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