of course it could be “death” too, as I reread the original post Anita.
re Karmic Debt:
well I don’t think they are fully realised in one lifetime. I mean how can Stalin, Mao or Hitler’s be fully realised? They got off lightly. It is possible for suffering to make us better people, more compassionate but not all the time. If I apply karmic debt to my own life, I seriously think I still have some debt to pay for past sins. Example, quitting jobs too easily. Deep down I think I haven’t suffered enough for this yet, which makes me apprehensive about the future. But there may be a danger here of masochistic choices, which are not helpful.