fbpx
Menu

On my way to self-compassion šŸŖ·

Homeā†’Forumsā†’Emotional Masteryā†’On my way to self-compassion šŸŖ·

New Reply
Viewing 15 posts - 61 through 75 (of 78 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #443710
    anita
    Participant

    Hello everyone,

    I wanted to take a moment to apologize to the community, and especially to Jena, for responding after she asked me not to. I became emotional in wanting to express care and support, but I now realize that my emotional state clouded my judgment and led me to overstep her boundaries.

    Moving forward, I will be more mindful to ensure that I communicate with care and respect for everyoneā€™s needs.

    Thank you for giving me the opportunity to reflect and learn.

    #443955
    Jana šŸŖ·
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I used some time for self-reflection.

    Once again, I followed a pattern that keeps repeating itself in my life: I let a stronger person, that is you, influence me too much. And it inevitably had to come out sooner or later because my karma is trying to teach me something.

    I no longer suffer from social phobia – my greatest enemy is no longer with me. But the seed of fear is still there. So, I ask myself again: Will I ever be free from this fear of people?

    No answer necessary. Time will show.

    I think that Buddha was right. Most of our perceptions are erroneous. I am sorry if I was mistaken. I really hope I was. And there is no reason to be afraid of you.

    But at the same time, I would like you to really think deeply about this. Now, you know that there can be people who are afraid of you or the energy you create. Is it really only me and this erroneous perception my deep-rooted fear creates?

    No one cares. I guess I must be wrong again.

    You are not a nobody. Everyone always comes back to this forum looking for you. “Anita, I need your advice.” You are a respected and sought-after person. I understand why you matter to others here. And I believe that you don’t realize how much influence you really have. But with influence comes a great responsibility, too. Your words have big impact on others… both positive and negative.

    I was inspired by Alessa’s words: “Every day is a new day. This is my philosophy. There are good days and there are bad days. Iā€™m not foolish enough to throw away a friend because of a bad day.”

    But I don’t know if you feel that I am a friend or only someone who needs to be fixed.

    Also, I wanted to let you know that I am not upset. I am confused… unsure… I lost my interest in this forum because I suddenly feel that it is not safe to open that much anymore. I feel something “in the air”… I cannot pretend that nothing is going on here. But again… it is only me who feels it.

    What is the difference between perception and feeling? Am I always mistaken? What can I trust, then? Time will show.

    Keep doing the good thing and stay true to yourself. My mind and heart need to relax.

    šŸ‘‹ šŸŗ

    ā˜€ļø šŸŖ·

    #443978
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Jana:

    I am using my phone and therefore will keep it short. No, Jana, you are not wrong. It’s just that I didn’t know that you were scared of me. It didn’t cross my mind that anyone may be scared of me.

    But now I know because tou told me. And I know that there must be other members in the forums past or present, who feel or felt like you do.

    So no, it is not only you, Jana.

    One of my challenges in life has been not knowing how I come across. Without feedback, I couldn’t know. So, thank you for your honest feedback.

    You wrote that you don’t know if I feel that you are a friend or someone who needs to be fixed. Clearly, I am now aware, sadly, it was the latter. I regret this attitude toward you and toward others who felt like you but didn’t tell me.

    I intend to internalize what you are teaching me and change further my approach to members in the forums: see people as people and not as projects to fix. I am feeling embarrassed right now about the arrogance on my part, to think that I am or could be a fixer of people šŸ˜”

    You are a friend, Jana, my friend because you gave me this very valuable, honest feedback, such that is leading me to be a healthier person. How can I possibly not be grateful..?

    This is turning out to be a long message, and by far, the longest message I ever typed into a phone.

    You are courageous. Jana, for expressing yourself and asserting yourself with a person you were scared of. I admire you for your courage in voicing what others who felt like you were too scared to voice

    Of course, I will be honored to be friends with you, and I am smiling right now at the thought that one day you will not at all be scared of me.

    I hope that you will stay here in the forums. I would like you to post every day. But this is just my wish. I want you to do what suits you.

    Closing this post with a smile šŸ˜ƒ

    Anita

    #444013
    anita
    Participant

    I am back home to my computer and had to change that last emoji, it’s just too happy looking. Here’s one I am okay with: šŸ™‚ Itā€™s a gentle and modest smile, feels genuine.

    anita

    #444047
    Alessa
    Participant

    There have been some changes for me recently regarding self-compassion.

    I have been taking care to manage my boundaries better. By this I don’t mean confrontationally. I mean, by making sure that I don’t do things that I’m uncomfortable with or push myself beyond my limit.

    Typically, I can be co-dependant and go out of my way to help others even when it starts to take a toll.

    I’m not putting myself through that stress anymore. It is important for me to take breaks when I need it.

    I’m also practising better self-care. Tailoring it to my autism by focusing on reducing overstimulation. Managing my anxiety with breath work.

    #444215
    Jana šŸŖ·
    Participant

    I am truly sorry that I let my fear control me… again. I am trying to cultivate self-respect and self-compassion by observing myself more. I make some notes in diary…

    I am still very confused by my own feelings and illusions. I am not able to tell the difference. I am not sure what the truth is.

    I had enough time to think and I discovered that in my case self-compassion is very closely connected to compassion for others. Understanding and accepting people as they are…

    I don’t know how much right we have to interfere in the karma of others. Should we intervene or are we just making it harder for them to understand?

    ā˜€ļø šŸŖ·

    #444230
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Jana:

    Iā€™ve been thinking about you every day since you last posted, hoping to read from you again. I want you to know that my message comes from a place of care, respect, and genuine appreciation for who you are. If at any point something I share here feels overwhelming or unwelcome, please know that itā€™s not my intention, and Iā€™m happy to adjust or step back. My goal is simply to support and connect with you.

    Something about the way you share your raw, honest self has touched me deeply and stayed with me. I think so highly of you, Jana. I see you as a reflective, empathetic, and courageous personā€”someone who seeks growth and navigates life with authenticity and resilience.

    On Feb 24, you shared something that stands out to me this morning: “It takes courage to be vulnerable because we expose ourselves to the threat of being hurt… Maybe thatā€™s why I see tenderness as ‘weakness’ because when I am tender and thus vulnerable, bad people have an opportunity to use me as a target of their frustration.”

    Reflecting on what youā€™ve shared about analysis and understanding, I realize now how often I turned to analysis to shield myself from experiencing emotionsā€”my own and othersā€™. But I see now that this habit has limited me. I want to connect with people, including you, on a deeper, more compassionate level, and to hold space for emotions without trying to fix or intellectualize them.

    Jana, I donā€™t ever want to hurt you by turning your openness into a subject for analysis. Your vulnerability deserves care and understanding, and I want to honor that.

    What you shared on March 8ā€” “No one cares. I guess I must be wrong again.”ā€”is most meaningful to me this morning, and I want to respond with understanding, the best I can: Jana, I care deeply about what you share, and I want to support you in the way you needā€”by listening, by understanding, and by holding space for you to simply be.

    Regarding your concerns about my participation in the forums (March 6), I want to assure you that my intention has been to help and to make sure no oneā€™s pain goes unanswered. I also want to encourage you and others to take as much space and presence in the forums as feels comfortableā€”you are always welcome here.

    Jana, your presence and words here have touched me deeply, and Iā€™m grateful for the opportunity to connect with you. Please know that Iā€™m here for you in whatever way feels right for you. Take gentle care of yourself.

    anita

    #444232
    anita
    Participant

    One more thing, Jana, as it occurred to me a moment ago:

    You might have picked up on- being as sensitive and perceptive as you are- a certain anger, hostility on my parts. This may be that “something in the air” that you mentioned earlier.

    The angle through which I look at any situation involving people, sooner or later, has been that of Suspicion ad Distrust. Expecting hostility from others, I respond with my own preemptive hostility.. only the other person was not hostile (yet), and in effect, I was the only hostile party in the situation.

    It is not my fault that this is the angle through which I’ve automatically looked at situations where humans are involved, yet it is my responsibility, being aware of this now, to consider different angles through which to look at situations: consider positive motivations by people like you.

    anita

    #444248
    Jana šŸŖ·
    Participant

    Hello Anita,

    thank you for your messages. You are very kind. ā¤ļø

    Honestly, I felt like I had lost a friend. But as is often the case with me, I feel differently than the people around me.

    I don’t want you to feel bad about what I wrote. Don’t worry, there’s not much room in my heart for any bad feelings. ā˜€ļø If this whole thing hurt me a little, but in the end helped you or someone just reading this, that it’s always better to be vulnerable and honest than to be afraid and silent and then just be wrong, that’s good.

    I do pick up on people’s energies… but I can’t say if I’m good at evaluating it. It feels now that I cannot fully trust myself, because my fear creates a “filter” that makes me confused and often wrong.

    Sometimes I ask why I had to be born this way. Being oversensitive is hard in this world. I must learn to work with it better.

    ā¤ļø

    ā˜€ļø šŸŖ·

    #444250
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Jana:

    Your sensitivity and self-awareness are truly remarkable qualities that make your presence here so special. Please know that Iā€™m here to support you in whatever way feels right for you. Your openness is genuinely inspiring. ā¤ļø

    Reflecting on your words, ā€œIf this whole thing hurt me a little, but in the end helped you or someone just reading this, that itā€™s always better to be vulnerable and honest than to be afraid and silent and then just be wrongā€ā€”I couldnā€™t agree more. Over the past week, I found myself thinking about you and our interactions, and I realized something similar: while some of our recent exchanges were distressing for me, they ultimately helped me grow into a better and healthier person. I hoped the same might be true for you.

    The exact thought I had was “מֵעÖøז יÖøצÖøא מÖø×Ŗוֹק” (Me’az yatza matok)ā€”a Hebrew saying that translates to “Out of the strong came something sweet.” This saying comes from a biblical story in the Book of Judges (Judges 14). While traveling, Samson was attacked by a lion and tore it apart with his bare hands. Later, he returned to find a swarm of bees had made a hive in the lionā€™s carcass. From this hive, he scooped out honey and shared it with his parents. The story symbolizes how something sweet and good can arise from a situation that initially feels difficult or harsh.

    Regarding your reflection, ā€œI do pick up on peopleā€™s energiesā€¦ but I canā€™t say if Iā€™m good at evaluating it. It feels now that I cannot fully trust myself, because my fear creates a ‘filter’ that makes me confused and often wrongā€ā€”I want to respect your wish for no analysis of your words. Instead, Iā€™ll share some of my own struggles in trusting my evaluations of people. Perhaps parts of my experience (though certainly not all) may resonate with you:

    For a long time, I often perceived others as dismissive of me, thinking little of me, and I would feel anger toward them. I also frequently believed people were angry at me, which led to fearā€”I imagined they intended to hurt me on purpose. It might have been something as small as a look, an unexpected reaction, or the absence of a response I hoped for. These perceptions caused me to end potential relationships prematurely.

    I didnā€™t trust people; I believed no one was truly trustworthy and that everyone would eventually hurt me. My fear of people became overwhelming and was often accompanied by anger. I came to think of it as People = Emotional Pain (PEP for short, lol).

    A major breakthrough came when I realized two pivotal truths:

    1. I was often wrongā€”most people werenā€™t actively trying to hurt me or cause me pain. My fears rarely matched reality, even though they persisted for years.

    2. The person I truly feared was actually my mother. Her actionsā€”like throwing shaming words at me and then smiling with satisfaction as the hurt registered on my faceā€”were where my fear and distrust originated. However, I projected this fear and distrust onto others instead of recognizing its true source.

    Retrieving this memory (#2) allowed me to place my fear where it belonged. Now, I can reserve fear for situations where itā€™s warranted, like genuine physical danger, rather than assuming hostility from others.

    Here are a couple of quotes I find helpful:

    * Dalai Lama on Fear and Distrust: “The real destroyer of inner peace is fear and distrust. Fear develops frustration, frustration develops anger, anger develops violence.”

    * Paulo Coelho on Rebuilding: “Tragedies do happen. We can discover the reason, blame others, imagine how different our lives would be had they not occurred. But none of that is important: they did occur, and so be it. From there onward we must put aside the fear that they awoke in us and begin to rebuild”, Paulo Coelho

    Jana, thank you for allowing me to share these thoughts with you. Your reflections inspire me to continue growing, and I hope sharing my journey offers you even a small sense of connection or support. Please take gentle care of yourselfā€”you deserve kindness and peace. ā¤ļø

    anita

    #444272
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Jana:

    You ended your post yesterday with: “Sometimes I ask why I had to be born this way. Being oversensitive is hard in this world. I must learn to work with it better.ā¤ļø”

    I wanted to share something that might give you hope about oversensitivityā€” whether itā€™s something youā€™re born with or something shaped by experiences.

    It used to be thought that our genes were fixed, unchanging from birth. But recent scientific discoveries in epigenetics show us something hopeful: while our DNA sequence stays the same, environmental factorsā€” like stress, trauma, or nurturingā€” can change how our genes “express” themselves. In other words, life experiences can “turn on” (upregulate) or “turn off” (downregulate, or silence) certain genes, affecting how we feel and respond to the world.

    Here are two examples:

    SLC6A4 (Serotonin Transporter Gene): Difficult experiences, like trauma, can silence or downregulate this gene, reducing serotoninā€” a key chemical that helps calm stress. Lower serotonin activity is often linked to heightened sensitivity, anxiety, and difficulty managing stress.

    NR3C1 (Glucocorticoid Receptor Gene): Stress can upregulate this gene, which controls cortisol (the stress hormone). This can lead to an overactive stress response and increased sensitivity to stressors.

    The good news is that these changes arenā€™t permanent. Epigenetics teaches us that with care and positive experiences, these patterns can shift, offering real hope for healing and growth.

    This means that oversensitivity to people or fear isnā€™t necessarily something you were born withā€”or something that has to stay the same forever. Change is possible, even in adulthood.

    I found this very encouraging and thought it might give you a sense of hope as well. ā¤ļø

    anita

    #444274
    anita
    Participant

    Tying this to the title of your thread, ‘On my way to self-compassion’: Remarkably, self-compassion may positively influence gene expression. By calming the body’s stress responseā€”upregulating serotonin levels and downregulating cortisol levelsā€”self-compassion has the potential to shift gene expression patterns in a healthier direction, bringing benefits to both the mind and body.

    anita

    #444276
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Jana

    I think a lot of people have social anxiety. Myself included. What has helped me to manage the catastrophising is to repeatedly compare my fears to the actual outcome. Then when I worry, I reassure myself that my fears, arenā€™t necessarily the truth of the situation and often things go better than feared.

    Another thing that I struggled with was feeling capable of managing in challenging situations. It took time and practice of repeatedly challenging myself. But in time I became more confident and less afraid of it.

    In therapy, I learned that the nature of anxiety and fear is that avoiding it, reinforces the fear. Whilst challenging ourselves is stressful, in time it is possible to learn that things we are afraid of can be safe.

    The best way to do this is bit by bit though, so as to not overwhelm. It is a long journey, no sense in rushing.

    #444278
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Everyone

    Glad to see you posting again Jana! You are missed. ā¤ļø

    When I did schema therapy. The therapist taught me about different modes. My modes were, healthy adult, vulnerable child, punitive parent, angry child, detached protector.

    I was also taught about schemas (unhealthy though patterns) and it was explained to me that they gravitate towards continuing. So it is likeā€¦ they exist to exist and try and drag you back down and it takes a lot of time and effort to resist them and undo them.

    I have been thinking about all of this. I used to identify strongly with vulnerable child and detached protector. I would say that the punitive parent mode was also very strong and I ignored the angry child mode actively suppressing it.

    It is interesting how identity changes over time. The punitive parent mode has gotten smaller, the healthy adult has grown, the vulnerable child has gotten smaller, the detached protector has gotten smaller. The angry child mode I have dabbled with but compared to the others, not as much work has been done.

    Punitive parent mode was very obvious and I think easier to undo. Anxiety on the other hand. There are things that make it appear friendlier. Itā€™s function, alerting to dangers. Gives a false feeling of control. Yes, it causes harm.

    I realised that I donā€™t share my anxieties with others because they could be harmful to them. It just occurred to me that it might be just as harmful to me. Sneakier than the punitive parent mode but just as damaging. It might be healthy for me to identify with those thoughts and feelings less. It is interesting how if I just think of it as someone saying those things to me it comes across as bullying. Really this is what Iā€™m doing to myself.

    It reminded me of something that my bio mum did. She used to lie to be about my friends. Pretend that they didnā€™t call. Tell me that they didnā€™t like me.

    #444279
    Jana šŸŖ·
    Participant

    Thank you both Anita and Alessa.

    That’s a lot of theory and intelectualizing. I’ll think about it, though. Of course. Thank you.

    Birds are singing, sun is shining, some flowers are waking up here… šŸŒ¼ā˜€ļø Enjoy the weekend! ā¤

    ā˜€ļø šŸŖ·

Viewing 15 posts - 61 through 75 (of 78 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Please log in OR register.