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January 5, 2025 at 12:36 am #441283HelcatParticipant
Part of me doesn’t believe it is possible to step back from it. But I know that the first step is believing that it is possible.
January 5, 2025 at 8:36 am #441290shinnenParticipantHi Helcat,
We’ve all learned to live with fear running in the background, to varying degrees. It’s my opinion that fear is a much more potent motivator than love. I’m sure many people will disagree with that. Yes, I agree, hurt does mean caring. Only the people I care about can hurt me.
I’m encouraged to hear that things are looking up for you and your hubby. The few times I’ve had a tiff with my wife were very upsetting, for both of us; I can’t imagine what that’s like on an ongoing basis.
…. johnJanuary 5, 2025 at 9:05 am #441291shinnenParticipantHi Helcat,
Thumbs up for the that, your son sleeping through the night. Gives you a new lease on life eh!
Being elusive may just be his shtick. Ah, so the burning was connected to the shredding; I hadn’t realized that.
A million words is a lot of poetry😉.
The best art quote is one I came up with after spending weeks trying to fit my eulogy to Sappho into sapphic verse;
but yes, I’m sure others have come to the same realization, after the same process.
Oddly, when I gave up trying, this is what came out, as easily as writing a sentence.
“Blow mighty Aeolus.
Blow your priestess Sappho’s soft sweet echoes of golden climes,
through raging storms and wasting wars;
free from the chains of dead dumb tongues and the tombs of time;
that they may caress these strings and sing eternal your praises.”
“There is nothing wrong with being present and giving life your all.”
Isn’t that what we all strive for?
Yes, the thrill of vacuuming will wear off, sooner or later, hopefully later☺️.
” Hmm well common things like losing a job, relationships ending and death of a loved one are all considered to be traumatic. ” Oh, ok then; yes, most people have probably experienced trauma.
Take care of yourself,
….. johnJanuary 5, 2025 at 12:58 pm #441309HelcatParticipantHi John
It sure does! I have some time to myself again. 😊
Two separate events, on different years I believe. Apologies for not being clearer.
Haha that is definitely true! I find poetry difficult. I wouldn’t want to write a million words of poetry. 😂
Well done on coming up with that too. What a wonderfully apt tribute. I think you did a terrific job. I just looked up sapphic verse, it looks very complicated to write.
You take care as well!
Love, peace and blessings! ❤️🙏
January 6, 2025 at 1:27 pm #441389HelcatParticipantFeeling lighter again. The baby and the puppy are besties already playing together and giggling madly. I blew bubbles for them and they took turns popping them. He shares his old toys with her and throws things for her to fetch.
His love for vacuuming has blossomed into a love for putting his toys away. He’s trying his best, bless his soul.I’m trying to step back from my emotions. There are ups and downs.
I noticed that I feel most relaxed when I’m practicing loving kindness meditation.
A belief that worrying helps me to plan is playing in the background. But I noticed that talking about concerns is more helpful when it comes to problem solving.
Sometimes understanding how I’m feeling helps me. I realised that I was having a rough morning because I was tired. Upon realising that, everything seemed less stressful.
I think that I need to work on focusing on a present task, instead of being lost in my thoughts and feelings.
January 6, 2025 at 8:36 pm #441393shinnenParticipantHi Helcat,
Wow, this is sounding good, the baby and the puppy, blowing bubbles, and putting his toys away.
Yes, I’ve heard that loving kindness works.
I think that talking about things, is good. If they’re personal things,
It brings them out into the open and somehow makes them more real.
When they’re not personal concerns; I find that discussing
helps me hone in on exactly what I’m trying to accomplish,
and how and why I want to do it.
Your statement about, understanding how your feeling being helpful, seems a little odd;
because my sense from our discussions is that you’re probably more in touch
with your feelings than are most people.
… johnJanuary 7, 2025 at 1:44 pm #441411HelcatParticipantHi John
They are having a blast for sure. It’s lovely to watch. 😊
That makes sense.
It might just be being tired that is making me a little slow to pick up on things. I was feeling a little frustrated, then the feelings of tiredness took over and I realised that the frustration was because of the tiredness and if I wasn’t tired I wouldn’t be frustrated.
The older dog was ill last night and kept us awake. I hope he feels better soon and we can get some sleep. Still exhausted. One of these days I’ll sleep. 😂
Take care!
Love, peace and blessings! ❤️🙏January 9, 2025 at 8:54 am #441449HelcatParticipantI noticed that my grief is processing. It used to be sad for me to walk past the area where I thought my cat was lost. Yesterday, I just felt love for her with only a tinge of sadness. Today, I didn’t even notice.
Stepping back while things are calmer is easier. The test will be when things are less calm. I’m glad that things are calmer again. It’s good to be working as a team with my husband again.
The pup, my boy and my studies are keeping me busy.
January 13, 2025 at 2:43 pm #441548HelcatParticipantThe book I read dropped some truth bombs. Accept the void within because it doesn’t go away. 😬 Yikes. Treat it with kindness, eh?
I take it at face value when people more experienced and knowledgable than me offer advice.
My son is almost walking. He can take a couple of steps. 😲
Then all he’ll have to do is get talking properly and he’s basically a fully formed person.
It’s crazy thinking that there really isn’t much to people. Walking, talking, eating, pooping, sleeping. Sentient meatbags. 😂
Super cool!
January 13, 2025 at 5:22 pm #441552shinnenParticipantHi Helcat,
Ah, “the void within”. Does he say what that is?
What’s the name of the book?
…… johnJanuary 14, 2025 at 2:01 am #441561HelcatParticipantHi John
It was your old friend, Bhante Kovida. An Inquiring Mind’s Journey into wisdom, compassion, freedom and silence. You inspired me to learn more. I know that a lot of monks tend to write books and I was curious. 😊
In this case, he was talking about a tendency towards depression that many people have. But he does discuss emptiness elsewhere in the book.
Do you have any thoughts on either subject? Or well anything really? Please feel free to share whatever you wish.
Love, peace and blessings! ❤️🙏
January 14, 2025 at 4:16 pm #441570shinnenParticipantHi Helcat,
Yes, Bhante Kovida, a very wise man; my first, and greatest teacher; althought he’s much too humble to wear that mantle. He was a blessing, as he shone a clear light on the path, and I needed only to follow it. You cannot go wrong with him.
No, I don’t know anything about emptiness, and almost as little about depression, having had only a small taste of it. Sorry, I can’t be of more help; but do tell me what what you think, when you have the time.
…. johnJanuary 15, 2025 at 12:09 pm #441589HelcatParticipantHi John
How is life treating you?
I thought he was very insightful about how the mind works. I hadn’t heard or thought of some of the connections he’d made, but upon reading and reflecting it was definitely true. I thought it was fascinating how well the scientific mind gels with Buddhism.
Fortunately, the baby, the puppy and I are sleeping through the night now, so I’m able to talk more again. Dropping a nap for the baby helped. He is even learning to nap on his own. Then I will have some extra free time for studying.
I don’t know much about emptiness either to be honest. There are times when my mind goes quiet, say during meditation. I don’t know if that is what they mean? Or something else?
Oh it turns out that the advice was similar in a way to my old therapist (she was a very compassionate and insightful lady). But different and potentially more helpful. Her advice was that over time pain gets smaller and easier to deal with, but it never goes away.
The advice in Bhante Kovida’s book was to accept that it is going to be there when you recall bad memories because it is a function of memory. Acceptance and being kind to yourself. Plus the wisdom. There was also an emphasis on a difference between the ego and Buddha mind. It was good to have a clarification on that too. He’s a brilliant man.
It has helped me to think of things in terms of the function of memory. It creates some distance from the feelings if you just think of them as memories. Now that I think about it, psychology also seems to understand that too. But my therapist did not directly explain it to me. She just kept asking, “Do you remember the first time you felt like that?”
Love, peace and blessings! ❤️🙏
January 15, 2025 at 12:29 pm #441591HelcatParticipantUpon reflecting on first memories. I don’t remember the first time I was hit. I don’t remember the first time I was told that having us ruined her life. I don’t remember the first time I was molested by her.
But there was an awareness of these things that started at a similar time to getting help for myself at 12. It was when I started to understand that things weren’t meant to be the way they were. I guess that is when I started to try and change things. I would read books or talk to other kids and no one anywhere discussed these things.
I guess that is why I have been curious about the cultural impact of depression. For example, boys are culturally told from a young age that being molested by a woman is a good thing for them. As a result they tend to minimise the distress these experiences can cause. This of course has its downsides. Poor understanding of sexual boundaries, hyper sexuality, confusion about feelings and other issues. But they are told that being molested by a man is a bad thing. As a result that is perceived to be more damaging.
At the same time, girls are taught from a young age that these things are bad to experience. And it is considered a harmful experience.
There are some different reactions to traumatic experiences due to country as well. And even things like anorexia did not exist in certain countries before being shown in media. Then as the population became more aware of the condition, more and more people began to suffer and die from it.
January 15, 2025 at 12:49 pm #441593HelcatParticipantI looked up the developmental milestones for that age and it is when children start to develop a sense of identity, to separate from their families and understand more about how the world works.
It was a traumatic time for me. I was very aware that my life was very different from other children. As a result, I was very different. And also very depressed. I felt alone because there was no one I could relate to. It was also very painful to realise that things were being done that should not be done. It is quite horrifying to begin to understand something like that after it has been going on for a while.
When I was younger, before that age it was just the way life was to me. I wasn’t happy but I didn’t really think about it or understand what was going on fully. I learned that I was being abused from children’s books. Not because the material explained what that was. But because my life was so vastly different from anything in a child’s book. It created a very jarring understanding of something being very wrong at home.
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