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  • #89941
    Angie
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    I’ve found myself in a complex situation. I will summarize my circumstances to the best of my ability:

    -I’m a 23 year old female who just came out as bisexual to a tight knit group of friends and family. I’ve always been curious about my attraction towards girls.
    -I’ve had one previous lesbian experience with my best friend, enjoyed it thoroughly and wished to explore my curiosity further.
    -Currently in a three-year-long relationship with my boyfriend, most of which has been long distance. We’ve always entertained the idea of bringing another woman into the picture (sexually, not emotionally).
    -Recently met and fell for one of his college classmates, who is a girl.

    The story is this:

    I met this girl a little over a month ago. I was aware of her bisexuality but I myself hadn’t come out at this point in time.
    The first night we met, we went out dancing and she kept complimenting me about how attractive I was and proceeded to touch areas of my body. I liked it, a lot. I told her I was into girls that night and that my boyfriend knew (which he did). That was that and I wouldn’t see her again until weeks later.

    About a month ago, we met again. We went out dancing and she continued to show her interest in me. At one point, she lead me to the bathroom to “talk”. When we got in there, I told her how much I had been thinking of her ever since our first encounter. She was surprised, pleasantly, by it. I confided in her about the one lesbian experience I had with my best friend earlier this summer. Turns out she had a similar experience. She knew I was in a long-term relationship with a guy in her class but I went for it and we began making out among other things. It was incredible. At the end of that, she told me to add her on Facebook, so I did.

    When we first started messaging each other, she made it very clear that this thing between her and I couldn’t continue further, that it had the potential to become messy and people could get hurt. I told her I understood and we continued talking, seeing as how we shared similar experiences in terms of sexual awakenings.

    As the days went on, we found more and more things we had in common. It was almost scary at how many parallels we drew from each other’s lives. Thus, we continued messaging each other. The topics of our conversations ranged from our upbringings and favorite activities to sexual desires and experiences. Sometimes, we’d talk from right when we got home until late in the evening/early in the morning (10 hours at a time in some cases). We learned so much about one another in an embarrassingly short amount of time. We were addicted to one another.

    During this time, I found the courage to come to terms with my thoughts and feelings I’d been struggling with for so long and came out to my parents and friends. They’ve all been incredibly supportive and understanding. When it came time to tell my boyfriend, he seemed all but neutral and didn’t have much to say. I was hoping for some reassurance and support but showed nothing. I was taken aback.
    I also mentioned wanting to hook up with the girl in his class, on my own and not in a threesome like we had talked about before. He said this was fine as long as there wasn’t any emotional attachment involved. That was that.

    Up until about a week ago, I decided to visit my boyfriend (and her) before Christmas break began. She and I were incredibly nervous but excited to finally see each other again. We both admitted that being in the same room might create a sizzle, as we’ve both expressed being turned on by the other. I didn’t know what to expect from the weekend.

    I will make this part short and sweet. Of the two nights we had met, there was physical contact of varying degrees. The first night we met, we sat next to each other at the table and played footsies with each other. It was wildly arousing.
    The following night, my boyfriend, another girl in their class, her and I sat in a hot tub at a friend’s place. As time went by, I said screw it and proceeded to caress her back and legs, hoping she’d reciprocate. She did. It wasn’t as discrete as we thought it was and my boyfriend noticed. The girl eventually got out of the tub and my man looked over to me, disappointed. He said he knew I was curious and that I should probably figure it out. So I went after her.

    One thing lead to another and I eventually went back to her place where we had sex. It was the most intimate, euphoric experience I ever had in my life. Having sex with her both brought us to a place where we forgot about everything else. I can’t say enough good things about that experience and being alone with her.

    It wasn’t long after that she said she had to delete me from Facebook, that what we did was morally wrong and going to affect the people around us. I had to respect her decision regardless of the feelings we had for one another. The next night, she wrote me a letter explaining how special she thought I was and how she wishes circumstances were different and we hadn’t met as we did (through my boyfriend). She also said I need to see this thing through with him and work things out. She and I haven’t spoken in five days and it’s killing me.

    My boyfriend eventually found out about my infidelity and has given me the choice to stay with him, leave him to pursue her or to leave him and explore my sexuality further. I know I messed up and cheated on him (emotionally and physically) and he did nothing to deserve it. He’s been a wonderful boyfriend for the most part but I’ve been feeling like something is missing from my life. I felt like being with her made me want to open up and express my emotions and desires. I want that so badly: the emotional connection as well as the intimacy.

    I suppose in closing, I’m going to break up with my boyfriend because I know I hurt him and he deserves someone who will be faithful and honest with him. He has long-term goals in life and I am still lost at sea. I guess deep down, my heart is longing for her but my head says I can’t have her, given our situation. I know I need to give myself time for things to unfold…

    She said in the letter that she hopes this isn’t final and that we can start on the right foot further down the road. She set this boundary between us and as much as I want to reach out to her, I feel like if I did, I’d be crossing a boundary and just push her further away.

    This was a longer story than I wanted to be but there it is. I know what my next step is (to end things with my boyfriend), but I guess my question is… is it wrong to want to pursue a relationship with this girl? The feelings are there on both sides. Am I just setting myself up for heartbreak?

    Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

    Much love! x

    #89947
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Angie:

    Recently I heard of a term I wasn’t familiar with: LUG, Lesbian Until Graduation. Applies to young women, in college, but maybe not necessarily in college. This is an interesting term, does not mean lesbian, does not mean bisexual. It means exploring when young. Are you familiar with this term and what do you think of it? Do you think it makes any difference in your situation?

    anita

    #89979
    Angie
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    I’m unfamiliar with this term. Not sure it applies to this situation though… Both her and I have been through post secondary school previously. We’ve had feelings towards girls for most of our lives and have both fallen in love with our best friends. I think we found comfort in knowing that we weren’t alone in our struggles and initially, that drew us together.

    Having learned more about each other, feelings have come into play. However, I doubt anything will ever come of it because of A) how we met (through my boyfriend), and B) the fact that I cheated on him with her. Regardless, I can’t help these feelings that I have for her. I would love nothing more than to explore this further with her but alas, I’m completely unsure if anything will ever happen…

    #90001
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Angie:

    I see. I don’t understand why she is unavailable for you, to explore further your feelings for each other. If indeed the fascination with each other, and the sharing was mutual and so intense, I don’t understand. The A and B you mentioned are maybe unfortunate or … not pretty, but once you ended your relationship with your boyfriend and apologized to him sincerely, you should be released from that guilt or wrong doing. So I don’t understand. Maybe you can explain to me WHY or what is holding her from getting to know you better or getting to know you more???

    anita

    #90008
    Angie
    Participant

    I think the reason she feels like it won’t work between us is because of the way we met, which was through him. That, and she would feel guilt because it would affect my boyfriend if we started anything. She doesn’t think anything healthy can come out of seeing each other…

    I know. I don’t really understand it myself, but I’ve chosen to respect her wishes. However, she stated all of that around the time we first started talking. Since then, we’ve gotten to know each other very well through messaging. She even said that she’s developed feelings for “cyber” me and the way we communicate. We both said that we couldn’t wait to talk to the other person, and when we’d have to leave the conversation for a brief moment, we’d rush back.

    When I saw her last weekend, despite how nervous I was to see her, I felt oddly comfortable in her presence. I then realized how much I liked being around her and talking to her in person. Somehow, I feel incredibly comfortable opening up to her (perhaps it’s the emotional bond?). I could tell she was into me as much as I was into her (wanting to talk to each other, her body language, confronting each other of our feelings, us hooking up). I find it odd how after she set her boundaries with me, she tore them down, despite the fact I was still in a relationship with my boyfriend and she was going to school with him.

    The last time we messaged, she told me that everything on her side was real (feelings). I could tell she didn’t want to stop talking because we said goodbye dozens of times. She was the one trying to pull the plug on our conversations but she kept saying how special she thought I was and that she hated that this was happening (our final conversation). Despite the things that we did were wrong (the emotional and physical cheating), we both didn’t have any regrets.

    After that night, I’ve been unfriended and blocked on Facebook. She never mentioned blocking me, but I’m thinking it may be due to the fact that she is still going to school with my boyfriend and maybe she didn’t want to have the chance of seeing my profile. I still have her number and email, and I hope that maybe sometime down the line, once things with my boyfriend are settled, I can reach out to her. Maybe that crosses a boundary and that will push her away? I have no clue…

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 12 months ago by Angie.
    #90021
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Angie:

    Isn’t it interesting: she is keeping a lot of herself hidden from you, this is why you have no clue. She was willing to take her clothes off and reveal her body to you, but not her mind. So you don’t KNOW. The word intimacy is from the verb to intimate or to make oneself be KNOWN. Physical intimacy is one form, mental intimacy is another. The question is then, is she willing to take her mental clothes off for you to SEE into her. Maybe she is afraid you will not like what you see, if she shows you. Maybe she showed you mentally only what felt safe. I don’t KNOW. Neither do you.

    Is there a future there? I wonder. Do post again, if you would like.
    anita

    #90025
    Angie
    Participant

    I feel like yes, she has kept some of herself hidden. I’ve been very upfront with her about aspects of my life that perhaps no one else is aware of. She’s been relatively open as well…

    Although she has said this: “I was raised Catholic and I know deep down that I would like to have a husband and children one day. I’m afraid if I meet someone, they won’t be okay with my past and the things that I’ve done.” She’s been open (I think, anyway) about her past with me and it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. She’s even said too that those Catholic morals have been burned into her brain by her family but that means she can’t see herself ending up with a woman in the end.

    Maybe she is afraid of being judged. Regardless, I’m not a judgmental person and I’ve demonstrated that to her many times. I’ve take my mental clothes off for her and I haven’t felt any judgment from her. I’m not sure what to think. Maybe this whole thing is a lost cause…

    #90026
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Angie:

    She took some of her mental clothes off. She is conflicted, obviously. Remember the LUG concept, Lesbian Until… Until she has to attend to social conventions, Catholic teachings, parental expectations (her own parents). I am thinking sexual orientation is on the continuum like many other things. She or you are not all lesbian or all straight, but someplace on a continuum, in between, depending on circumstances, the need to settle conflicts…

    You have little power in comparison to a lifetime of social/ Catholic/ Familial teachings and indoctrination that she has been subjected to or heavily influenced by, especially during her formative years, when her brain was forming. So it is most likely a lost cause for you as is. Unless she moves significantly toward the end of the continuum, the lesbian end, it is most likely a lost cause. I still think though that more mental undressing kind of intimacy can take place, that you can communicate further, if it is not too threatening to her (probably is).

    anita

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