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January 19, 2017 at 11:12 pm in reply to: Save me please I know Im drowning myself (in my own misery) #125760janetParticipant
Hello
I have another update. It gets bad before better. I called him after two days silence. (Tue night) I made it worse because I tried to plead for him to help me understand since it didn’t make sense. In the end I asked him haven’t you noticed the progress I made? He said yes. Then I asked him do you still love me. And he said yes. Well I was so angry I just said thank you and hung up. As if to say I proved my point bye. And then I felt like an ass for that. And I started to see and realize a bit what he says about me that’s wrong. And then tonight I decided what I needed to do. I wrote him a thank you letter. As I wrote it I realized all the things he has done for me and how ungrateful and selfish I must have been. I concentrated on the thank you, and apologizing for the wrong that I did and caused. I didn’t say anything about what he did wrong or expecting him to do the same in return. I didn’t criticize or blame him at all. In an effort to truly heal myself and be able to move forward is why I did this. It was the right thing to do. And it opened my eyes a lot. I know now that no matter what I change about myself, it isn’t likely he will follow suit. And that we can still love each other and not be together. That was the hardest part for me to accept. Going forward I have an even better understanding of what I need to accomplish for self improvement and growth. And I know (always have) that after I am healed and a better person, that he won’t be relevant to my life anymore. I will outgrow him. I have a business I am trying to grow and I need to focus on that and accomplish my goals for me. I never understood how that worked. You know like in the movies when couples split up cuz their like my path is different and goals are different. To me it was always illogical. Like you love each other why can’t you get a job in the town she does or whatever the example is. But until it happens to you it isn’t that simple. I feel better. A wieght lifted. Now I only hope I can go forward and be strong.
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January 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm in reply to: Your breakup\divorce can be the best thing happened to you #125675janetParticipantGreat post. Thanks. I need this one
January 16, 2017 at 4:05 pm in reply to: Save me please I know Im drowning myself (in my own misery) #125462janetParticipantThanks for everyone’s views and replies. What I need now is to know how to cope everyday. Today has been such a struggle. I have to start my recovery essentially all over because he led me on. I keep repeating to myself to remember the facts. Those things he did which were mean, and that I won’t ever change that and that I left him for a reason. But still it’s hard. I feel like I’m a really sane person with a side of insanity. I know I’m smart, I know I deserve better, I know I should move on. I can’t even fathom any relationship right now even just a social one. I am at a point I never thought I’d be which is full of anxiety and fear. I was always so outgoing and full of life. Believed in people and had an open heart. To my own demise in a way. I’m trying not to let this ruin my view of love and compassion. But I’m really on the cusp of not giving a shit to be blunt. To just stay alone and not care for ppl in general almost. truthfully, people have approached me lately at random you know ppl will just strike up convo with u in a store about something and I shy away, I feel timid and sometimes it takes everything I have in my body not to break down in tears and loose it. I’ve NEVER been like this. I apologize if I am rambling or abusing the board or idk but I don’t have any friends at all. Another thing he helped make a reality. I have not a soul to talk to. So thank you very much all for listening and I really appreciate it.
January 16, 2017 at 12:42 am in reply to: Save me please I know Im drowning myself (in my own misery) #125372janetParticipantWell there was a turn tonight. He text me and said that he doesn’t want the relationship anymore. I tried to reply “ok” and let it go, knowing full well if I said anything at all it would be chaos. But of course I then open my mouth. I wasn’t angry, I didn’t use foul language or say mean and horrible things. Which USUALLY I would go off the deep end saying your this and that and f u and this and that ect. I absolutely kept my cool. Of course I was upset though. I spent almost 2 hrs back n forth with him trying to figure out why he led me on to only now pull the plug. Of course he said he didn’t lead me on. I screenshot his text where he said we are working at a relationship but taking it slow. Well I can’t change his mind and why should I try to. I’m seriously damaged. He has done so much shitty stuff to me, physically abused me, cheated on me, broke my property. But right now he’s hung up on the fact that I called him out the last day we fought. I spilled a secret in front of the person we were fighting in front of. Because right before that he had physically attacked me and I was just at my end. I just couldn’t take his abuse and I “retaliated” I knew the second I said it I wanted to take it back. And he feels he can’t ever trust me now because of that. We are all different ppl with different tolerance and I choose to forgive him knowing the things he did to me were out of anger and not intentional. Not that there’s any excuse, but in the end it feels so unfair. I told him he isn’t giving me the chance to show him how I’m progressing. But this is his typical behavior. I confront him with facts and truth and he does not give a response. He got crueler and crueler by the text and I finally called and said why are you being exactly the person you claim I have been (angry person) and not looking at the now instead of the past? Especially after you said you forgave for it all and now he brings it up and throws it in my face. And his response is that’s what I did to him. So I say again ok so then how is it ok for you to be like that now? That doesn’t solve it and essentially he has the problem then not me. He always has touted and I mean touted not just to me but everybody how he is a “fair man” and his famous line is “present me with a logical argument and I will have no choice but to respond”. And when the shit hits the fan he is non of that. So I’m glad he called it off. I’m sad too. I stupidly still love and believe in him. Unlike him I know and believe he has a possible illness. I try to be compassionate, but he doesn’t show the same. And I admit I have a problem and am even seeking out help. Well in the end I know I will be better. And once I am better I will look back and know that the end of us was the best part of us. Even as hard as it is to face right now. Thank you for reading 🙂
January 14, 2017 at 9:20 pm in reply to: Save me please I know Im drowning myself (in my own misery) #125280janetParticipantThanks Anita
Yes I guess at times I’m difficult. I expect a lot but especially I hold people to their word. He didn’t come through on many things and he is also very difficult. And yes easily triggered. I don’t know what the payoff will be. when we are not angry we get along so good. But he can literally in a second make me feel so small and I suppose if I didn’t take it as anything personal I would fare better, but at the core how can u treat someone you love that way? I’ve been thinking a lot and I just think I have to let go. I know in time it will get easier. I just have to find a support group because it’s hard alone.
janetParticipantThank you all for the replies. I haven’t talk to him two days now. I feel better by now. It’s been 6 weeks but we were fighting the first two then talking ok the next two after that. He knows how to reel me in by subtly making me believe we are making progress. And I know his MO. Right now what I need to do is build strength for when he comes back saying so hey how u been doing? And then he turns that into reeling me back in. And I’ve always been so damn gullible. He never even has to ask me to come back. It’s so twisted. He finds ways to win me over and coerce me into making the decision that he can’t balls up and ask. If I don’t stay busy literally every second I think of him and fight having a breakdown. Although it’s a bit easier everyday.
October 18, 2016 at 9:01 pm in reply to: Improving self esteem weakens your attachments and improves your contentment #118460janetParticipantHello Brav3. Thank you very much for your post. I had come here to start a thread looking for help and after I read what you wrote all the lights went off in my head. I believe I had some of that information floating around in my head but I don’t practice it. I’m glad to read it from someone else’s view and take it to heart. I just left a 4 year relationship that was filled with utter chaos and mistreatment. I am struggling not to look back and try to reconcile or even waste my time to make sense of it because that is just pointless. 4 years with someone is long enough to see their good and bad and realize when the bad outwieghs the good there is no reason to stay anymore. Your post truly confirms this for me.
janetParticipantOk I wanted to post an update. Somehow this week we managed to turn our conversations around and he litterally did a 180. He has said that he wants me to come back And also said he is going to rent an apartment for us. He says he realizes that if I am going to put in the effort then he should too. BUT the kicker is will he really do it? Part of it involves me going back to work for him and hes promised me a raise. I know he needs me there as hes clearly not able to or willing to do a lot if things on his own. I knew he was going to come around to wanting me to come back as he always does but I never expected him to be gung ho about the apartmemt. But it is yet to be seen. Im not really counting on it. He has said he needs until mid April. He needs me back at work before may as thats the rush season amd otherwise he has to hire a girl. So i dont really know if he just says these things to get what he wants and “pits up” with me and is now getting the apt just to keep me quiet. I shouldnt think this way. I should think yes he loves me and hes committed and doing what it takes. But heres why my thinking is flawed. Tonight we are talking and he says-when we get the apt i want a nee coffee maker (a keurig. And he never buys the cheapest anything). Because the one i have im leaving at the shop. And I say- well I still have my keurig. And he says well its old and the coffe tastes nasty from it. Hmmm. Ok so now here i go trying to hold composure, try not to cry. Because I feel the argument coming. See as this conve is happening Im thinking we dont even have an apt yet and when we get it we will have no furniture or anything but clothes and a bed maybe a few dishes. A coffee maker is last on the priority list. And im already sensing that will be hard toconvey to him. And it was. It ended in the usual. Somehow he gets hell bent out of shape and reads me some riot act when i have yet to even open my mouth and make a point. I hung of on him. I called my bff. I cried an hour straight. I said to myself. Nothing about this man is changing. He changes our circumstances (possibly) but his attitude? Not so much. Well i had to get this out. I dont plan to talk to him. Im waiting to see what he does. But i really want to walk away. I want to stop fighting for him.
janetParticipantThank you both for the replies. I think maybe I might have wrote the part about the kids a little confusing so Im going to clarify. I have 4 kids but they are all grown. What I was referring to was yes I know its hard being in a relationship where one person has kids and the other doesn’t but I only know that from a mother perspective. I was married 2 times. my first 2 kids are out of the home. my second two from my second marriage, one is 19 the other 17. They all live apart from me. But I have an amazing relationship with them all and nothing ever gets between me and them. Now with my ex (the one in reference) he has two other kids from his first marriage, one is 19 the other 12. He never sees them and rarely talks to them. I dont wanna elaborate there but basically he has an I give up attitude. He claims its his ex wifes fault they are sort of estranged. But he just doesnt try. much like our relationship he makes excuses. Idk maybe its a man thing. I know as a mother I will die for my kids and no one better try to stand between us! No if that was the case at all I wouldn’t be with a man like that. So now in his case his 8 year old sons mother lives in another state and she was a huge thorn since day one. She turned out to be an alcoholic and finally she is getting her life together and she is causing far less drama but in the beginning it was a nightmare. I believe in co-parenting but both him and her are quite honestly crappy parents. I would try to help him and offer advice and he never wanted to hear it. But then say the teacher at school would say the same thing I did and all of a sudden hes like thats a great idea. So thats also a dilemma because I feel so sad for his son. The fact that he doesnt want to move in together is one thing if its just him and I but he thinks its ok for his son to live in a shop with no where to play or have his own room for toys and just a feeling of home and being safe and secure. Especially after his mother drug him through the mud and they were basically homeless before we got him back. His son has social issues and outbursts at school and had to be moved to a special program. Idk to me nothing is more important that a safe home for your child and he doesnt disagree but at the same time he is making excuses why we cant afford an apartment. I think he has a lot of insecurities and walls up. I think hes afraid of taking on all that responsibility. But hes halfway there as it is. Hes afraid of failure. Hes trying to buy a business and he uses that as his “excuse”. All his money is going toward that for our “future” which is commendable and makes sense but in the interim? The three of us cant live that way for 3 more years. And again I work and can and have paid half or more than half the expenses so its crazy.
Many times he has said we need to just be apart and focus on our individual goals and then maybe fate will bring us back together someday. Well, ok yes and no. Maybe I let him raise his son and buy the shop and then in 10 yrs see where we are in life. But that also seems like lunacy. Life is now not 10 years from now. I cant carry around a maybe for 10 years. I want to be with someone. I don’t want to be alone. Its feasible now, he just has to rearrange his thinking. But sometimes yes I believe maybe its just better this way. I have always been more needy and unable to be alone and I am learning slowly to be ok with being alone. Among other things. I am going out and doing things for myself and trying to move forward because I cant wait for a someday. I am trying not to contact him and let the ball be in his court.
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