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Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Helcat,
It’s quite common here that children of different ages are together… in kindergartens, sometimes even at elementary schools. I guess the point is that children should learn to work together, the older teach the younger, etc. But there must be adults who manage the whole group. The clubs were like one big chaos… it was also very difficult for me that everyone was screaming, running around, loud music, lights, … It could be great for extroverted children. But I would have felt much better if I could sit somewhere quietly and read, paint, create…
“I’m curious how did your mother react when you siblings fought?”
Honestly, I don’t know. I don’t really remember her being with us and handling it somehow. My older brother sometimes did. But he was good, he never hit us or something like that… It is sometimes really hard to see how such a good handsome boy turned into such an angry and a bit neglected man.
Are you still in touch with your brother?
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Anita,
I would like to thank you and Helcat too for two things.
I realized that this really is not normal, even though I have been told all my life that I am the bad one, because I am the oversensitive one and that it is me who just can’t handle a normal life like others.
And for your experiences… It is important to share… otherwise everything gets swept under the rug (again). It’s also inspiring to know that you’re fighting for the good… trying to be better and helping others too… because unfortunately there are so many people in the world who have chosen to follow the wrong path destroying themselves and/or others… their motto being: “I suffered, you will suffer, too.”
I understand my brother’s frustration, anger and resentment towards our parents, but he chose to go down the wrong path. Although I don’t know if he consciously chose this path or if all the things in his life – childhood and forming years – led him there. How much can we really influence? … I was in the dark until recently.
I remember that I used to be very annoyed by questions: “Why are you shaking?” etc. People noticed of course, but they didn’t even think to address it gently or actively in helping me… rather they used it against me… children laughing at me, bullying me by imitating me, deliberately ignoring me… teachers: “What’s wrong with you?”, “You have to stop shaking.” … those expressions of annoyance on their faces and the gestures like “Jeez, this girl again…” Rolling eyes… I also had this block that I couldn’t speak in front of others. When I was called to come in front of the class and recite, sing, answer some testing questions etc., I just couldn’t speak. My throat got tight, I couldn’t breathe properly, so I just stammered or didn’t speak at all… and I got 5. (the worst mark) You don’t speak = You don’t know… no care that I was obviously under enormous pressure.
How did you deal with this?
Have you ever tried to ask your mother (or father… I don’t know if he lived with you, as you rarely mention him) for help? When I did, I just met another form of ignorance. I remember my mom “growl” at me when she was annoyed by me. I wanted to try hypnosis (because I saw that once on TV – they treated people with phobias by hypnosis) and I was simply just chased off that it was nonsense… and no other discussion… as always. It was said and done. Period.
My mother came to some realization that it wasn’t all right and she needed some reassurance from me that I could forgive her. Which I did. Honestly, I never had any hatred towards her… I just knew I couldn’t rely on her. And I detached from her and got deeper into my inner world. But I feel that she has this conviction inside that it is our fault, that we are the ones causing her problems… She might have realized something, but the fact is that she really didn’t understand the core of the problem, or doesn’t want to… as in your words “it’s easier (..) to ignore a child’s distress than it is to acknowledge and address it…” I would only add here that it is also easier to deny being a part of a child’s problem than to admit it.
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantAnita, thank you a lot, I will read it and reply later. I am going to bed now. And don’t worry, please, I am okay – I just needed to take it out, you know. 🙂
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantI remember that I ran away from the children club, too. And no one cared… no one asked WHY… I simply had to go there again. No discussion. The same story later at elementary school… No one… really… absolutely no one cared about my feelings when I was a little girl, let alone when I was older…
I remember the nights full of teror in my head. I was depressed in the evening when I went to bed and knew that I had to go to school in the morning… in the morning I was so anxious that I felt sick… still I had to go there without a word of understanding or support… more than 9 years…
No bad feeling for anyone… But don’t you find it strange that your child almost vomits in the morning when she has to go to school day after day, year after year…?
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantI don’t know all details why my mom decided to take me there. But I believe today that I was too small and perhaps mentally not ready yet to be able to make friends with children of different ages. Maybe my mom thought in good faith that it would be okay when my sister was there, too.
Yes, my sister went there too, but she didn’t want to have anything common with me, because I was the weird one and she felt ashamed of me in front of other girls. She didn’t like me and I remember that she bullied me emotionally many times. She hit me a few times, too. But I thought that this was something normal between siblings, especially sisters, you know… I remember that once we had a piano performance together (every half year the children prepared some performances for parents – music, dancing, acting etc… very stressful situation for me.) and at the end of our performance I made a mistake, and my sister punched me in the face in front of everyone in the concert hall. It was very embarrasing and humiliating for me.
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantWhen I started with EFT, I had very painful and shameful memories connected to this accident. Now, it is only a memory. I don’t feel strong emotions thinking about this experience anymore. 🙂
But what I have realized recently is that this experience really could lead to my fear of other children in the children club. The point I wanted to make is that my initial experience with the boy was unfortunately later confirmed over and over again by emotional or even physical bullying until high school, when at least the physical one finally disappeared…
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantI remember the first moment when I was physically attacked. And I believe that it is exactly that moment when my “lizard brain” created the pattern of the distrust of people which I have followed since then.
I wanted to play with one older boy and I pushed him a bit from behind, which made him angry and he kicked me several times.
I remember that it was a shock for me. I just wanted to play. I didn’t mean any harm. I didn’t understand his violent (over)reaction. And I remember that it was a moment of “This can happen to me?” … as if I didn’t realize that something like this could happen to me, that something like this existed. It was very new for me and very shocking at the same time.
I never really understood why I was so anxious in the children clubs. This could be the reason. It hapenned before I started to attend these clubs. I could be 4 or 5.
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Helcat,
you should make your own phrases because only you know what exactly you feel. This is something the teacher taught me – there are some examples of the phrases, but you should come up with your own phrases which align with your real emotions connected to the problem you want to work on. I sometimes only tapped… I didn’t say anything but I focused deeply on the emotion. The most important thing is to really get into the moment, the emotions, some feelings in the body (it’s actually also a kind of meditation, mindfulness) and then tap.
Thank you for your support! ❤️
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Helcat,
it is very sweet… “I will do everything in my power to protect him and give him the life he deserves.” It warmed my heart. He is lucky to have you.
We do deserve love and care. It must be a great transformation… to heal yourself by being a parent.
Yesterday I was thinking that I should get back to EFT again. I hope it will help you. If you have any questions, you can ask me. 😊
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Anita,
It’s not easy to realize that I’m still broken. But I’m glad I have come to some understanding and I’m one step closer to more healing.
Now I am in the middle of my “self-pitying phase”, as I call it. But it is okay. I know this. It is useful for me because it gives me the right energy to continue healing.
Hope you have a nice weekend! ☀️
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantI will try it, Anita. 😊 Thank you. But.. Later. Now I am a bit hesitant. I feel quite vulnerable, and I need more time for thinking about it. But it is a great idea!
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantMr. A,
I understand your concerns regarding your wife’s health and pregnancy. What I don’t understand at all is why you want to start a family with someone you don’t seem to love and maybe even despise? Can’t you see the consequences?
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello devin,
of course you will find someone who loves as much as you do. It sometimes takes time.
Where do you look for your potential partners? Sometimes people look in places where they can’t find the right person. Then they can get the impression that there is no one for them.
It is also possible that you expect too much or you need too much attention and it can be demanding for the partner.
But we need more context of your problems/feelings to help you more.
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantHello Helcat,
“Every child in the world deserves to be raised in an ideal way. It is a shame that life doesn’t work like that.”
It is! Yesterday I thought about the fact that I don’t know anyone who has a warm relationship with their parents. At best, those relationships are neutral, but there are no warm and loving feelings. It is so sad.
I am sure you know the show “Wife Swap”. I watched one episode and one of the mothers whose boyfriend hit her children said: “I was beaten and I survived. My kids will survive too.” And here we go again. The mindset “I suffer, so you will suffer too.”
No one is self-broken. The poison of hurt feelings is passed down from generation to generation. But we need to wake up and accept that we are hurt and do the best to heal… we can break that vicious circle of pain.
I am very happy that you are so self-aware and try your best to raise your son. I am sorry that you don’t have more support from your family. You husband’s family seem to be quite complicated, too. But you can do it with your self-awareness, clever mind and kind heart. It’s great to know that somebody from a bad family is willing to grow and be different. ❤️
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Jana 🪷
ParticipantAnita, thank you for your investigator’s advice, as always.
A lot to process.
Do you mean I should retell my memories with more compassionate view? I am not sure I can do it. I do have good feelings for the people. I understand them. However, I have a feeling that if I retell my experience differently than it was, I will actually minimize my feelings even more. Now, it seems to me that it would be a form of suppression. But I am not sure what you mean exactly.
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