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Jana πͺ·
ParticipantHello Anita and Alessa,
thank you for being here with me. π
Do you think that all people experience some emotional or mental difficulties?
I do find external validation important. However, I never got it in my social bubble or culture. It is then very frustrating.
It is interesting that you both find/found rules, plans, goals helpful to stay focused. I am very nervous when I have to follow strict plans and goals … I like to “flow” and to be flexible in situations. Rules and plans actually make me nervous.
Thank you for your support! I’ll think about the words weakness, strength, failure, success. You can add your ideas about these words, too. π¦
“Self-compassion is something that goes beyond mere intellectual understanding, of courseβit needs to be felt.” It is true. It is very interesting how these processes inside our mind work. It takes a lot of time and effort to really feel it. One can read hunderds of books on self-compassion but they will never feel it. There is something special you need to do to be able to feel it. I think that it is also connected to practice, for example mindfulness and meditation, which help us sort thoughts and discover “more” about us.
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ParticipantWas it therapy or some other situation(s) that helped you with self-compassion?
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ParticipantI was always wondering HOW. How to cultivate self-compassion in my practical life.
I guess that there is no universal answer to this question. We all have to find our own unique way to self-compassion.
Internal validation of my suffering was a very important step for me. Before I started visiting this forum regularly, I actually didn’t understand a lot of things about myself. I didn’t realize how important role my childhood plays in my life even now when I am 36 soon… It seemed normal to me that children have problems because I saw a lot of troubled classmates and people in my life. But they all seemed to be managing their lives better than I was. They didn’t suffer from social phobia. They didn’t appear to be as sensitive as me. I considered myself a failure, I guess. How is it that everyone is managing their lives but I am not?
I am trying to reformulate certain thoughts in my mind when they pop up.
“I am weak.” –> I am strong because I am not afraid to face my problems.
“I am a failure.” –> I am a fighter because I have already beaten my biggest enemy – social phobia.
“I am too sensitive.” –> I am a sensitive, tender soul and it is just right. The world needs good and sensitive people. I can turn my sensitivity into a strength.
“I have to change.” –> I do not need to change. I am enough as I am. I am here to be myself. I only need to develop as myself, not to change.And I also trying to give more validation to my inner child. I usually try to console her by visualizing that I hug her and tell her some soft words. “You were a good, brave little girl in that harsh world.” But it is still hard as it always makes me cry a bit.
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ParticipantThank you for sharing your thoughts. It is very interesting to read different points of view on self-compassion and the struggles connected to achieving it. We are the same, but different. The same in our essence, but the stories are different.
What was your perfectionism, Anita? I remember that I used to be a perfectionist at university, which brought me good results and some form of recognition and acceptance (which I strived for – feeling accepted and recognized was the drive for me to be “perfect” that time). Now, looking back I can see how impermanent my goal was. I worked hard, studied all nights, got great grades, got some approval from a professor from time to time and then… it all could begin again. I never satisfied my need to be recognized and accepted…
What kind of affirmation do you use? And what happened that you no longer feel “cringe” saying nice things about yourself, Alessa? I have this experience, too. I’ll elaborate more about it later. (My dog is crying outside and I need to go to take her for a walk.) And do you mean that you are still in touch with your inner child, teenager etc. and this way you cultivate self-compassion, or you have always had different feelings about yourself based on your age?
Please, share more! π π¦
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ParticipantFor me self-compassion is all about forigiving and accepting, which is not easy but it brings a wonderful sense of self-liberation.
I find self-acceptance more challenging because for many years I have lived believing that what others say about me (criticism) is true. It takes a lot of mental and emotional effort to reprogram these beliefs.
I will continue on Monday. Meanwhile, feel free to share your thoughts on self-compassion and please communicate with each other – this is not only about me.
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ParticipantMr. A,
I understand your concerns regarding your wife’s health and pregnancy. What I don’t understand at all is why you want to start a family with someone you don’t seem to love and maybe even despise? Can’t you see the consequences?
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ParticipantHello devin,
of course you will find someone who loves as much as you do. It sometimes takes time.
Where do you look for your potential partners? Sometimes people look in places where they can’t find the right person. Then they can get the impression that there is no one for them.
It is also possible that you expect too much or you need too much attention and it can be demanding for the partner.
But we need more context of your problems/feelings to help you more.
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ParticipantThank you, Kim, for this message. π
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ParticipantNature reinforces my strengths and weaknesses as a human being.
Nature helps me to learn to be in the present moment. It teaches me a lot about suffering, life and death. It teaches me meekness and respect. It is truly incredible how much suffering animals and plants can endure.
However, nature still reminds me of this feeling… of not belonging to people. The call of the wild, the Lone Wolf in me which I have to keep an eye on… to stay in this cage of society. And I am not free. And when I am not free, I do not feel safe.
Sometimes I think I shouldn’t have been born as a human being or my soul wouldn’t have suffered so much from the feeling of alienation.
But I am okay. It is a fight that I will win in the end… one day, one lifetime. π
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ParticipantYes, I agree! π But don’t you think that external validation is impermanent?
This is a bit harder for me to explain. I might have been lost in translation.
Some people will not give me validation because I do not fit into their own internal validation. For example, someone can be angry with me because I’m a calm and quiet person. And my nature, the way I am, doesn’t give them their internal validation (because they are talkative and wild, for example).
And some people will give me validation but when they find out that something has changed with me (my opinions, ideas, behaviour…) and I do not fit into their own internal validation anymore, they will stop giving me validation.
If it makes sense.
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ParticipantI am happy to read that you feel better and more mature, Lisa. π
And now, these days, where does this feeling of being a failure come from? What do you think you failed at?
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ParticipantAfter the few months since I wrote this post, I realized that the main reason for my fear was that I was looking for validation from people. Now I know that I don’t need it because external validation is impermanent.
What I have observed in human communication in real life, but also here in this forum and other forums online, is that people tend to accept someone only as long as the person fits into their system of thinking. The fact is that vast majority of people will validate/accept you only until the moment your ideas / opinions / behaviour fit their idea of validation of themselves. That is why external validation is impermanent.
There are only a handful of wise people who do not fall for this. And if you know them, you have them around, cherish them. β€οΈ But always rely on your own internal validation/acceptance of yourself. βοΈ
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ParticipantThank you. That’s nice. I’ll copy it and print it. π
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ParticipantHi Beni,
I am so sorry I missed your reply to me. I am happy though that you found help in Anita’s response.
Could you write more about the drama? And could you be more specific – what exactly do you do in your real life to create drama?
And why should you forgive yourself? What did you do?
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ParticipantHello Anita, feel free to write short or long posts. I always like to read from you. β€οΈ
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