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  • #435156
    Harry
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    Hi

     

    What you’re saying sounds pretty relatable to be honest.

    Yesterday I went drinking with my friends and she was going to come with, but she stayed home. I didn’t feel the usual ‘I’m missing you’ feeling I do normal, but I did look around and just think none of these girls are her.

    I got back and we had a conversation about how I felt, and it got pretty bad. After a while, she got annoyed and went to sit on the sofa at the Airbnb we’re at. I came to talk and she burst into tears. Suddenly all feeling I had for her disappeared, it was like I didn’t even care for her feelings at all and I knew something was wrong.

     

    I managed to bring myself back to normality and comfort her, I said I want to enjoy the next 2 weeks with her. She says I put too much pressure on this, she doesn’t think that the first person she’s properly with is going to be the one but however long it lasts it’s fun. I had said I’d cheated before and she said I’m the one who called it cheating and we weren’t together, she said she thinks about it sometimes but she was basically saying she didn’t see it the way I do. We went back to bed and cuddled and had great sex and then slept.

    I woke up this morning and feel a little numb, I can tell she’s off but it’s early so we can get back to normal with a bit of time. I feel like an awful person for having such conflicting feelings.

     

    I do think there are some deeper issues within myself, it doesn’t make sense that I suddenly lose all feeling for someone I’ve dedicated 6 months of my life to. I only felt that way for 5 minutes but it scared me.

    #435141
    Harry
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    I’m happy with the decision she wants, I don’t work with that person anymore, it was my weekend job which I don’t do anymore as I’m with this girl.

    I’m not sure how I’ll feel once it all blows over. Just for now I can’t get out of my own head. Once I’m with her again I’ll forget about it all. Then back to normal next Tuesday, until I see her on Thursday and so on until she goes home.

    Once I’m in Australia we’ll see where I am. Life is so frustrating at times! Will keep the forum updated as who knows it might help someone one day

    #435139
    Harry
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    I’m also feeling the same with food as I did before. I can barely eat. I’m not very hungry again and I can’t focus on anything other than this. Before I had time on my side but now she’s leaving again maybe I’m cutting her off to save myself the pain.

    I don’t feel scared of her betrayal as you said. I trust her fully. I’m so confused.

    Why does everything have to be so hard?

    #435138
    Harry
    Participant

    Hi, really interesting reply.

     

    Ive never really looked into my past as a child as a reason for how I feel. To be honest with you I can’t name specific times I’ve felt that way. I was kicked out of my house a lot by my mum, I suppose my dad had left the house abruptly a couple times and stayed away. I was bullied pretty badly in school and tried to just brush it off, which worked at the time.

    I talked to her about what we were going to do when she goes home. In order to get to Australia in November, I’d need to work every day from when she leaves till when I leave. I told her I can’t do this. Before I met her, my ex had left me just over a month before and I was in a bad place mentally. She helped me out of that and gave me something new and fun to put everything into. I said I should be able to get to Australia in January.

    She also mentioned that she doesn’t think we should begin an official relationship, and that we shouldn’t be exclusive at least until I get to Australia. She said this isn’t because she wants to sleep with other people, but that she still doesn’t have the trust back in me not to do the same thing I did before. She said before she would close off other opportunities for me, but she might not this time. She’s very upset and has cried a lot over the past day, and I can’t help but feel scared because I don’t know if I feel the same anymore.

    This just feels so weird to me because a week ago I was watching football with my friends and I missed her. The same happened when I felt this way before and I missed her when I was watching football. I feel like I’ve lost interest, and although she is what I thought I want, maybe she isn’t? She’s funny, very smart, saves money, works hard, she’s going to be very successful and is already on £40,000 a year at 20 years old. She’s conservative (not politically), she cares about me, cooks, cleans, treats me well. She’s not materialistic, she would want to help me improve my life and me the same for her. But sometimes she gets upset about her body (which is literally a models body) and doesn’t want to do things like swim in the ocean when we were on holiday. She doesn’t seem to party, and sometimes I think to myself she’s a bit boring. This feels cruel to say. Before these are traits I would’ve found attractive, and I find girls that are too boisterous and promiscuous unattractive. This girl is willing to try new things with me, but maybe just not everything I want. I don’t know!

    I think I’ve devoted so much time to her in the last 5 months without getting over my last girlfriend, and neglected my family and friends so much that I’m now starting to see that too. Everything I’ve done for the last 5 months has been for her. She’s been my motivation the entire time.

    It’s strange, I don’t want anyone else, but the thought of this being forever is scary. She’d be an amazing wife and a brilliant mother. She has a great loving family and lives in a lovely house, she doesn’t deserve to be hurt. She whispered she loved me last night when we were falling asleep and it broke my heart.

    I didn’t feel it back.

     

    I think the best decision for me now is to try and have a happy 2 weeks before she leaves. It’s likely I’ll suggest that we don’t remain in contact for the next few months as I save for Australia as I don’t think it’s healthy, especially if I want to pursue a potential future with her. I’m angry at myself because I want to love her. I want to think about her and think about our future and be excited. I want to feel how I felt 2 months ago. I want to feel how I felt working 80 hour weeks and thinking it was all worth it and all going to be okay because it was all for her.

    She helped me out of a very tough part of my life and I feel like I’m about to drop her into the way I felt. It isn’t fair. Last Friday, she was taking longer to reply to me than normal and it annoyed me, I worried that she didn’t feel for me as much anymore. Then I got to hers and all was well. We had a great weekend.

    I do have concerns with our sex life too. She’s inexperienced and doesn’t know what she likes. There is only one way we can have sex that makes her finish, which is her on top. I don’t have anyone in particular I think my sex life was better with before, so I find this weird. Afterwards I feel amazing, but thinking back on it, it doesn’t feel amazing.

     

    I just have so many conflicting feelings. I think I need to take a break from it all and find myself. I’ve relied on women to make me happy for the last year and it isn’t healthy. I feel guilty.

     

    I wish I’d met her in Australia so that I would’ve never cheated, and so we didn’t have to have such a weird relationship. Maybe we’ve spent too much time together in a small period (every minute of every Saturday, Sunday + Monday and some Fridays/Thursday evenings for the past 2 months) so my brain is just used to her now. Maybe the feelings she has for me now are the ones I had for her when I was working so much for when she came. I knew I loved her before she got here, and now I don’t think I do.

    Next week I probably will again, maybe I wont. I don’t know. I want to love her, she’d give me a great life.

     

    My exes before have been pretty horrible if I’m honest, one was nice until the end. Maybe this is what my problem is. I’m scared if I can’t love this girl for more than 6 months, how am I meant to do it for anyone else. I’m just in an awful position. I think if I let her go I’ll look back on 10 years and think what an idiot I was.

    I don’t know.

     

    #435112
    Harry
    Participant

    I want to also say that before I didn’t miss her and looked at photos of her and didn’t feel the same ‘wow she’s beautiful feeling’. Now I miss her and I still feel that feeling. I don’t know what’s up with me.

    I think I might be putting too much pressure on myself. I think about things like ‘will I marry her one day’ but this is so far in the future, I don’t know why I’m worrying about it now. She’s absolute mother and wife material. I seem to have a habit of being really into something for a few months and then losing interest. I’m not sure if this will just keep happening again and again until I’m old and alone.

    #435111
    Harry
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    Hey, thanks for your reply. I avoided this for a while but have come back to it now.

    You are welcome. “Yesterday she even met my dad …. If I’m totally honest I don’t know if it is going to work… I’m going to continue playing it how it has been before… She’s still excited for me to come to Australia and so am I“-

    – she might be thinking that you are serious about her, being that you introduced her to your father yesterday. When in Australia, she might have you meet all of her family, thinking this is serious, not knowing that you are very conflicted, that you are not totally honest with her, and that your plan is to continue playing it  how it has been before.

    I’m speaking with a therapist who’s helping me with it all“- good thing.

    I won’t bring up what happened before again as far as I can help it“- you mean that you may not be able to not bring up the topic that hurts her.. as in being compelled to bring it up?

    We’ll see how we get on, but for now I’m happy and so is she.“- your romance story has been a very fast romance story, too fast, and she is far away from home. I think that she needs to go back to Australia, and recover in familiar settings: separate her Dreams and Hopes from Reality. Maybe seek therapy there.

    It may help if she can see an therapist before she leaves the UK.

    I wonder about your attachment style in romantic/ sexual relationships, if it is the avoidant or the ambivalent kind where you seek closeness with a woman, on one hand, and sabotage closeness, on the other hand. Are you aware of the concept of attachment styles?

     

    I’ve been able to largely forget about what I did with the other girl. It comes up occasionally but I brush it off now and it doesn’t affect my thoughts and feelings towards the Australian girl.

    I do, however, keep facing extremely conflicting thoughts. One minute I love her, another minute I don’t know if I want to be with her. The thought of her with anyone else is horrible but then I feel like she deserves better than this.

    She leaves soon and I’m getting more and more scared of when she does. I’m not attracted to anyone else and I’m going to commit to working so I can save up to get to Australia, but not having her here is going to be awful and I just don’t want to feel like this whenever I’m not with her.

     

    When I’m with her I feel amazing, I don’t want to leave. Once I go home I begin to worry. I trust her 100%. I stupidly told her I loved her when I was with her 2 weeks ago. I felt it completely at the time and I cried when she said it back after a bit of a pause. The last 2 girls I’ve been with have said it to me and didn’t mean it, and to be honest I don’t even know if this girl did. But I think that’s my insecurity.

    I stopped therapy because I couldn’t afford it and didn’t think I needed it anymore. I felt fine again. I care for her deeply and don’t want to let her go but I’m constantly doubting myself.

    I don’t know what’s wrong with me. This girl is everything I’ve dreamed of. Literally.

    To be honest I thought about how I’m going to afford Australia yesterday and I’m going to have to delay it by about a month, so I won’t see her for almost 4 months. Once she goes home I’ll get a better grasp of what I want to do.

    I’m scared of hurting her but I don’t know if I’m just delaying the inevitable. I know that if I end our relationship I’m going to be heartbroken over it even though it’s my decision. I can’t win either way.

    I’ve heard of attachment styles and I don’t know what I fall under. I don’t want anyone else. I want her, but I don’t know if I need to let her go to see the picture clearer. But then if I do that I’m scared I can’t get her back. I feel pretty hopeless right now. I’ve met a woman who makes me happy when I’m with her, and when I leave I doubt things.

    I don’t know if this is relevant but I find myself watching adult videos of girls cheating on their boyfriends (made up for the scene of course) and after think to myself ‘what am I doing’. The thought of someone doing that to me is horrifying yet I find something arousing about it?

    I would also add that this happens with everyone. My previous relationships I’ve doubted things when I’ve not been with them. I do the same with my family and barely contact them if I’m not with them. When I am with them, it feels like they were never gone in the first place. I’m also extremely impulsive and don’t tend to think in advance.

    The only time off I get from these thoughts are when I’m with her, when I play drums and when I play football. Other than this, I can’t escape it. And what’s funny about that is that I’ve only felt this way again the last 3 days.

    I know relationships and love aren’t perfect, but this just worries me. I miss feeling how I felt before I slept with the girl from work. It’s my own fault how I feel now.

    I’m scared for when she goes home. She kept bringing it up last weekend, I think that might be what’s caused these thoughts again.

    #434538
    Harry
    Participant

    Hey, thanks for your reply. We stayed together again the past weekend and everything just worked again. I didn’t really doubt anything and what I did think about what I’d done a few times but I’d get it out my head and forget about it. I feel a lot better about it all now.

    Yesterday she even met my dad. I wouldn’t agree that the long distance was the issue. I think it was more my connection with her and only spending a week together in person prevented my devotion. When I’m with her I’m happy and we don’t argue. I know I messed up and it hurt her pretty bad, but we’ve been okay.

    If I’m totally honest I don’t know if it is going to work. It’s hard at times and I struggle to keep the guilt of what I’ve done out of my head, but I’m speaking with a therapist who’s helping me with it all. I know that this could be a great thing that I have with this girl, and I don’t want to lose that. I’m going to continue playing it how it has been before. I haven’t once gone looking for anything else and I was very content.

     
    <p style=”text-align: left;”>I was working 7 days a week and the only people I’d really talk to were the ones I worked with, and the girl I slept with was the one who showed me more interest than others. I will learn from what I’ve done and won’t do what I done before again. I see that what we have is strong and I’m going to continue working on it.

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    I won’t bring up what happened before again as far as I can help it. She doesn’t understand and likely never will understand why I did what I did, to be honest neither will I. She’s still excited for me to come to Australia and so am I. We’ll see how it goes but all I can do for now is prove to her that it was a mistake.

    The main issue for me is when I look at her when she’s doing something cute or nice, and instantly feel regret for what I did. I consistently think that had I not done it, we could’ve had that nice moment without the painful thought of remembering something bad. This is a consequence of what I did though, and I’m willing to live with that.

    We’ll see how we get on, but for now I’m happy and so is she.

    #434352
    Harry
    Participant

    <p style=”text-align: right;”>Hey,</p>
     

    Thanks for your reply. I stayed at hers last night and I do feel better after calming down and relaxing. She’s essentially said she doesn’t know what she wants and she could cut me off at any time, but for now she wants it to be normal.  My issue now is that nearly every moment I spend with her I’m happy and forget for a minute, then I think how great it would’ve been if I hadn’t done what I’d done and I was just sitting there guilt free and in love with her.

     

    I know it seems like self sabotage, but I can’t stop thinking that she deserves more. The feeling did go before for about a month but then came back in a huge wave, and I’m hoping slowly it’ll go away again.

    I know real life isn’t a fairy tale, but I wish I’d learned this lesson before this girl. It was perfect in every moment with her before this. I’m going to try and keep it normal till next month. She even admitted yesterday she was expecting to leave London in a relationship with me until I told her again last weekend. This is after me admitting sleeping with the other girl a month ago. We’ve gone back to normalish, slept with each other twice last night, and strangely she seems to have gotten over an issue she had with struggling to be aroused physically, although she was mentally. This caused a bit of discomfort between us both.

    The important thing for me to do now is try to forgive myself, so that we can both move on. I accept any decision she might make as I’m the one who messed up, but it’s just going to be a matter of waiting and time.

    #434306
    Harry
    Participant

    It’s been pretty helpful reading all these posts, and I wanted to make my own as I’ve not seen a situation quite like mine yet.

    December 2023, the girl I was seeing’s mum had just tried to kill herself and had moved into the girl’s flat with her other 2 young kids, so understandably she needed some space to focus on that and couldn’t see me for a couple weeks. This then turned into her wanting a break, and the last time I had seen her was the day I’d asked her to be my girlfriend (she said yes) in late November. Anyway, it was weird and long story short I was in a bad place mentally, couldn’t stop thinking about and missing her.

    I go on a trip to Prague in late January, I’d booked it for the 2 of us but convinced my friends to come with instead. I was adamant I wouldn’t get with anyone there. The first night, I meet a beautiful Australian girl who I take home with me. We have a great time, she stays till the afternoon, then I meet her again the following night and she stays. I then fly home but she goes to Switzerland and I agree to meet her in London for a night as she has a connection there back to Sydney.

    I then thought f it and flew to Switzerland to stay with her and we go back to London. All is great and we agree that we’ll wait for each other until I come to Sydney which I was planning in November this year. Anyway, she asks her work if she can work in London for 2 months and stay here. They say yes. I’m so happy. I’ve been working a second job on weekends to save money for when she comes and so I can go to Australia. This feels like a fairy tale.

    I begin to find myself becoming attracted to a girl at work. I flirt with her and she flirts back, even inviting me to a hotel room with her on one night, which I adamantly refused, and also trying to kiss me on another night. I considered it, but backed away and left.

    Around 3 weeks before she comes to England, I’m in the car with the girl from work for a lift home and I keep pretending to kiss her but then move away and stop. We go home. The next night I do it again and still don’t kiss her, but as we’re playing against each other on iMessage games I have an urge come over me and I start touching her thigh, etc. She kisses my neck and ears and this sets me off, I don’t kiss her back throughout all of this as I know it’s wrong, but I pull her on top of me and we begin to have sex. I feel awful, I push her off me and get out the car and go home. I feel like a disgusting person and can’t believe what I’ve done.

    After a couple of days, I tell the Australian girl. She’s devastated, we talk about it, we stop talking so she can think. She arrives in England and still wants to see me. We meet, have a talk, things start to go well again.

    She has been here 4 weeks now, it’s been perfect, like it was before except for her getting down every now and then about what I did. Last weekend I realise I hadn’t told her the full truth and felt intense guilt again and told her. She said it changes things and she’s upset. We get separate trains home, don’t talk in bed for 2 hours and she says I should get the first train back in the morning. We talk, she cries and tells me she doesn’t forgive me but she has no one else right now and so she cuddles me and we sleep. She also says that she doesn’t know what she wants and it could change, but for now she wants it to go back to normal. We wake up Monday morning and suddenly I don’t feel the same as I did before. I was obsessed with her for 5 months straight and now I feel like I don’t have any feeling towards her. I was still devastated at what I’d done. We had been getting through it. But we got on so well I had started to not think about it. Then it all came in a big hit. I opened up to her. We cuddled, watched tv, it took my mind off things but I still didn’t feel the same. I had to leave that night to go home and I really didn’t want to, but I woke up in the morning after and felt nothing again. Then in the afternoon when I was busy I felt something but not what I’d felt before, this happened yesterday morning and this morning too. I can’t eat properly.

    I’m seeing her again today and I’ve started therapy. I’m disgusted at what I did with the other girl and it lingers over me all the time, but I want the amazing feeling I had before with this girl. She is everything I want. She has every quality I’m looking for. I have to convince myself that these feelings I had for her will come back. I don’t want to hurt her though. She leaves in just over a month and then we won’t see each other for 3 months until I fly to Sydney.

    I left her Airbnb the Monday before this all happened and knew I was going to ask her to be my girlfriend when we go on holiday together in a weeks time. (For reference, we’ve never been officially together, but we agreed on exclusivity very early on). I just feel horrible. I’m not sure she’ll even take me back again. This is her first relationship and first time ever trusting a man and I feel like I’ve wrecked her.

    I want us to have something good again. I overthink a lot and just want to go back to normal. The therapist I spoke to was one I used before when I first slept with the other girl from work. She says she thinks I’m experiencing the freeze emotion which is making me wonder if this girl is right for me as there is a threat of her leaving. I’ve been split up with twice, both times when I thought things were perfect. Maybe I’m trying to save myself from the pain.

    I loved her on Saturday night and even up until Sunday afternoon, then when I knew I had to tell her what happened and worried she’d leave, all my feelings have gone.

    Do you know what I can do?

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