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silvery blue
ParticipantThank you, Peter. I need to read it more carefully and think about it offline. 😊
Others are, of course, welcomed to join in the discussion. ☀️
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silvery blue
ParticipantI had just random thoughts… not in specific context, really… just some general feelings…
Everyone needs love, protection and respect… Everyone needs to be offered the feeling of security and non-fear. If we decide to set healthy boundaries during conflict, the boundaries will protect everyone. They will not isolate us from others. They will only help everyone understand our world, our needs, our difficulties and suffering… so that we could cultivate compassion, the capacity to understand suffering, and help to remove it, transform it…
Maybe it could be useful… ?
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silvery blue
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silvery blue
ParticipantHello again!
I only visit forums when I’m at the PC and I try to spend a little more time offline, so I apologize if my responses take so long.
Also, I often can’t concentrate at the computer and I miss a lot. I wrote some points and my answer in peace and quiet in our garden. 😊 Let me know if I missed something.
I’m not sure if “not deserving” is the right word, Lucidity, but maybe it’s related to what Alessa wrote about. (?) Sometimes my moral values don’t meet my needs. It sounds strange, I know… An example: I am willing to be vulnerable, to offer understanding and compassion, but very often I find that the other party doesn’t offer it to me.
And perhaps this is what Anita meant – that our vulnerability, which we offer through a desire to understand or through honest sharing of our feelings, is used against us because others are unwilling (or unable) to do the same.
Let me know if I understood correctly.
I have to ask, not because I’m questioning someone’s point of view, but because I’m not at all sure I understand it.
On forums and in life, in conflict and out of conflict, we must ask… and not assume that people see the world through our suffering, difficulties and aspirations. ❤️
Lucidity, I visit mental health forum. And the reason I feel safe there is because people are very honest, open and responsible for their own suffering. I won’t say who wrote to me – male or female. And I won’t transcribe word for word what they wrote in order to maintain anonymity. So… they wrote to me: “Please, don’t talk to me right now. I’m going through a difficult time and I might hurt you. And I don’t want to, because I like you. Remember, you didn’t do anything. It is my illness, not you.”
I think it’s a nice example of when compassion and boundaries meet in a healthy way. They set their boundaries and in doing so they show compassion for themselves, but also for me by expressing concerns that they might hurt me and by saying that the problem is the illness, not me. But it is also an example of how this person, although they have a very serious mental disorder, have their problems under control (or at least they try really hard to do so) and they don’t use their own suffering as an excuse for their actions. (which many people do!)
Today, I know that people’s suffering in its different forms – pain, issues, trauma, personality and mental disorders, … – explain a lot about people’s behaviour, but it does not excuse their actions. In healthy healing, people gradually takes responsibility for their behavior, they don’t expect the world to adapt completely around their wounds / problems / trauma / illness. ❤️ But it is hard. I know. I do understand.
I think that over time tinybuddha has become too small… and maybe too much personal… and too much focused on the topic of abusive mothers… which is extremely sensitive here… and there are recurring conflicts due to misunderstandings around this topic… And that doesn’t offer a sense of safety.
What do you think about it?
BTW I get emojis on “emojipedia” and copy them.
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silvery blue
ParticipantI had to get up and hug my dog at 4:00 AM 😂 🥰
“The dog’s past trauma is often soothed by the calm confidence of the pet parent. Both grow. The pet parent learns to be still, to regulate their energy, and the dog learns to trust. Growth emerges from this tense, honest engagement where healing is not forced but invited through presence and attunement.” ❤️
It is so nice.
I will reply more later when I have more free time. But before I come back again, I want to post something about Karuna (compassion – very often misunderstood), the second element of true love (Thich Nhat Hanh).
“Karuna means the capacity to understand the suffering, and help remove it, transform it. The person you love has suffering in him or in her. You should be able to identify that suffering, that difficulty, and try to help to remove it. … In true love, you don’t have to suffer (with your beloved). You have to understand only. And your capacity of understanding helps the other person not to suffer anymore. … Your presence only helps the person to feel better. Your speech, your action, your capacity to listen deeply helps him or her transform and remove the suffering…”
And these words really touch my heart. And I would say them as my own to anyone here, so you feel safe:
“I know there is a lot of suffering, uneasiness, difficulty in you. I know…
In the past, I have said things, I’ve done things that have made the situation worse.
Now, I’ve already understood… I don’t want to continue like that.
So, please tell me about your suffering, your difficulties, your aspirations.
I am free now. I am able to listen to you.
I know that I have not understood you enough.
Now my desire, deepest desire is to understand you deeply
so that I will not make you suffer anymore like I have done in the past.”I just sometimes wish that others who come into conflict with me would think of me that way, too… Sometimes I feel like I’m trying my best and I’m all alone.
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silvery blue
ParticipantPeter, thank you.
When I got a puppy, she was super anxious and it made me very impatient and I was tensed a lot!
I remember I had these momemts “What am I doing? I don’t recognize myself.”
I remember that I realized that I behaved exactly like my mom. When I was a child, I had social phobia and my mom was very impatient and strict. I did exactly the same to my poor frightened puppy.
The tension was really my consciousness showing me the bad pattern my mom taught me. It opened a completely new chapter of my life.
I started to change into more open, loving person and I also reached my mom in irder to talk about it and found out a lot about her own feelings and troubles she was having when I was a child, which made us closer.
It is actually a great memory. Thank you! 😊
silvery blue
ParticipantHello everyone,
I don’t want to ignore the “elephant in the room” here – the fear of expressing your own opinions and feeling like trespassing. ☹️ I know what it feels like and I am convinced that this is the source of conflicts on this forum.
I was wondering if you would like to discuss it with me?
I have been active in another much bigger and more sensitive forum (discussing CA, SA, mental disorders, therapy, …) and I don’t feel unsafe there.
I don’t want to ignore this fear. I am worried because two other people expressed it here.
I am here to offer a place of security, non-fear, but I need your help… to make this forum safe, welcoming and friendly. 🙂
Ignoring or being quiet is not a healthy way of dealing with problems.
However, if you are not ready, I understand. 🌸
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silvery blue
ParticipantAlessa,
if you feel better, would you like to discuss the “unrealistic expectations and assumptions” you have mentioned before? I believe it is a typical source of misunderstanding in communication.
It could be useful to look into it together. 🙂
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silvery blue
ParticipantHi Anita,
I don’t feel that my vulnerability have been used against me. Quite the opposite! When I am vulnerable, people want to connect. ❤️ I think that they might be scared at first… of making the first step to show their vulnerability… but when I start… slowly… in the end I always open the door to more genuine and honest conversation. 😊 People appreciate it, but some of them just feel a bit uncomfortable at first.
I didn’t mean that politeness is fake. It must be some misunderstanding. I don’t remember what I wrote about my culture in detail. But I believe that I was processing my thoughts that I didn’t want to be treated with “special treatment”, because I felt that it could make people feel uncomfortable with me, and that I want to become more resilient and responsible for my own emotions when people use “harsher” way of communication with me. 🙂
I like it. The more open I am, the more welcoming my energy is… and people are nicer. (98% of them) It just took me some time to understand it. I have processed the strange idea that people wanted to hurt me. I know today that I made it only worse and worse when I tended to isolate myself. It took some time, but socializing feels much better today! And I don’t even feel so drained after that. Hurrah!
I know that even my idea that I am overlooked in conflicts is not true. It is more about getting better and better at dealing with my emotions, taking proper care of them and becoming more stable. One step at a time. Of course. 😊
Do you have any plans for the weekend? It’s really hot here. We might go swimming to a local quarry with our dog.
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silvery blue
ParticipantHello Lucidity,
I would love to!
I like it. I try to approach conflicts as opportunities to learn and grow.
I would like to say that you don’t have to worry about me being upset. I have absolutely no reason to be.
I am trying to understand people better, to reconnect with them. I cannot do that without accepting them and their different opinions / experiences / difficulties.
People are like flowers. 🌺 Maybe it’s the innocence of flowers… and of trees and animals. They are just what they are and no one can be mad at them for that. When I think about people this way – that they are just people and do what people do – it helps me understand… and be more compassionate.
I will not be upset at anyone for being a human.
I may be more fortunate… I am healthy. I have a joyful personality. I am forgiving and accepting. I have solved large part of my issues. I know that not everyone is so fortunate as I am. And that makes me feel that I should be more responsible and careful.
I feel like more fortunate people have to give more to those less fortunate… especially in hard times… And don’t get me wrong. I think it is right… But sometimes I end up with the feelings of being overlooked… as if my feelings, my needs, are suddenly not as important as those who are still dealing with trauma or difficulties…
So, in conflicts I very often find myself in this inner conflict. I must work harder on my inner stability. I guess.
Thank you for reading!
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silvery blue
ParticipantAnita, so please, let me. I try so hard. I really want to connect.
But I just feel rejected when you don’t want to discuss things with me. I don’t know what you mean. And when I don’t know what you mean, it cannot resonate, I cannot relate when I know so little.
I am not an enemy, either. I will not judge you. I wish I could understand your point of you better. It doesn’t matter if it resonates, because I will try to at least understand. I will not reject that idea. I will not minimize your feelings.
I know it is the vulnerability. I know that you might be scared. But I will not hurt you anymore. I spent some time with people with trauma and difficulties. I am more compasionate, more aware of the fact that people suffer too much and that the suffering has different shapes, forms and degrees… I respect it and I know that only that suffering is the source of these misunderstandings. Not people, or their feelings.
It is that I myself am met with a form of rejection from you… when you write only these short sentences, which read that you don’t want to connect.
What can I do then?
Do you remember? You wanted to make this place bigger… I really wish we could.
I can give you space. You can think about it and let me know later.
I am still open. I was just caught in a moment of my emotions. I need to control myself… I know that it wasn’t rejection… just my emotions read it as rejection…
silvery blue
ParticipantI just want to say that everything fine. 😊
It’s just that this forum is probably not suitable for me because there are too few active people and the vast majority don’t want to get involved, so it’s all pointless. Forum is for discussion, and when there is no one who wants to discuss things, you know… it doesn’t make sense.
But I think that I just don’t understand this concept of forum.
So, I will visit another one.
I am sending ❤️ and ☀️
silvery blue
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silvery blue
ParticipantI realize I started this thread at a bad time. I’m missing a lot of things. Honestly, I’m a little confused about what’s going on.
I don’t like this atmosphere.
What a pity.
Never mind.
I’ll find a different place to discuss these things openly. 😊
Take care all!
Alessa, you can get in touch in email. It feels more safe than here. ❤️
silvery blue
ParticipantAlessa 🫂 ❤️
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