Dear John_1:

I keep repeating my point that when a person hurts another intentionally, that it is not a loving act, but the opposite of a loving act. This is my subjective understanding of love but it is also the objective truth of what love is. I will keep repeating it.

I like it that you listed what you learned. My comments on your list:

I like #1. Regarding #2, I’d like to suggest that it is possible to treat a woman right and she will not be there for you. This happens too. Regarding #3: yes, you do and unfortunately you also pay for others’ mistakes. Regarding #4: I agree you should let another make up their own mind and not manipulate or pressure them.

I am curious to follow your aim here of getting her back, back to a different kind of relationship, a Win-Win relationship. Hope you post again.

anita