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  • #392090
    Malakai
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    Hello,

    This may be a bit of a long post but recently I found this forum and decided to try posting here, as I feel I have nobody to turn to in my life about this.

    Back in August of 2021 things so turned out that I met someone I still would classify as a man I’ve been waiting my whole life to meet. We talked for more than a month and in October we ended up in some kind of romantic relationship ( I refrain from using labels on it since we never really… specified it.) This was the first time I was so infatuated with a person, everything about him was fascinating to me, he was honestly exactly the type of person I always imagined myself with and I was more than excited to spend my time with him and further get to know him, to make sure he truly was that person I had always dreamt of finding. In the beginning I was very afraid to let myself be happy since before things have happened in such a way that I would get my hopes up about something only to see it crumbling shortly after. But seeing the way he acted around me, seeing the way he looked at me I was sure that for once I could let go of that fear, I was almost certain that maybe this time things would be different.

    A few weeks after we began our relationship though one day he started being completely distant. It was completely out of the blue for me, it made absolutely no sense, we had made all these plans to do things together and he seemed to not even want to talk to me anymore. And one day with almost no explanation he broke up with me. When I asked he just told me he couldn’t reciprocate my feelings.

    I don’t blame him for it. But I also don’t understand it. How could he seem so interested in me one day and be completely over it the next day?

    Needless to say I was shattered. Trying to piece myself together was as if I was trying to glue back together all the pieces to a smashed plate. I wrote poetry, I tried to distract myself, I did everything in my power to get better. And I succeeded to a point.

    I cut him out of my social media after accidentally seeing he found a new girlfriend. Feeling a wave of devastation coming I told myself that enough was enough and that I must stop thinking about him, listening to music that reminded me of him, anything and everything. And for a while it worked. I could feel myself stop constantly thinking of him and I finally thought I was free of my feelings.

    Recently I have been going out with a colleague of mine, nothing serious, I don’t know if I can even exactly call them dates. But I can see in the way he acts toward me that he may have more serious intentions towards me. And for once in my life I’m not sure what I want. As things were going so well for some reason I am back to thinking of my ex. In a conversation with my mother she brought up I may have been (may currently still be) in love with him and I am afraid to admit it, since I feel that’s something very strong to admit about somebody I was with for such a short period of time (and somebody who seems to not think remotely the same about me). I find myself longing for him once again, and whenever I pass places we’ve been together my mind constantly replays my memories with him.

    I don’t know what to do anymore. I’ve come to terms we won’t be together, especially now that he’s happy with somebody else. But I want to free myself of this. I want to find my own happiness too, I’m so tired of missing him and wishing to see him again.

    If you’ve read this far thank you for listening to my venting. I don’t really have anybody I can talk to in my life about him and I truly need some advice/help.

    #392122
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Malakai:

    It helps me to understand a member’s story better when I repeat it in my own words, so I will: you met a man five months ago, in August 2021, talked for more than a month, and got romantically involved with him in October 2021., not specifying or labeling what was going on between the two of you. A few weeks later, in October or November 2021, he started acting noticeably distant, like he didn’t even want to talk to you anymore, and he soon broke up with you, saying nothing more than that he could not reciprocate your feelings. Next, you happened to find out on social media that he has a girlfriend, and you cut him out of your social media. Currently, January 2022, you are going out with a colleague 0f yours.

    The reason why my retelling of your story is so short compared to your original post is that I retold the facts only. In your original post, you shared about your subjective thoughts and feelings, but hardly any (1) Events: what actually took place? (2) Dialogue: what did he say, what did you then, how did he respond, etc.? (3) Descriptions of non-verbal interactions and communication: what did he actually do, what was his tone of voice and facial expressions when he said this or did that; what were yours?

    Let’s look at the subjective happenings that you did describe, that is, your thoughts and feelings: he was “a man I’ve been waiting my whole life to meet… he was honestly exactly the type of person I always imagined myself with” – vague, you didn’t say anything about what kind of man/ the type of man that you have you been waiting your whole life to meet.

    Everything about him was fascinating to me” – “everything” is very vague; you did not identify what about him fascinated you, not a single thing.

    Seeing the way he acted around me, seeing the way he looked at me” – no details whatsoever in regard to how he acted around you and how he looked at you.

    He started being completely distant. It was completely out of the blue for me, it made absolutely no sense… I also don’t understand it” – maybe because you were not paying attention to the details, to what was actually happening, to the actual verbal and non-verbal interactions?

    I was shattered. Trying to piece myself together was as if I was trying to glue back together all the pieces to a smashed plate. I wrote poetry” – impressionistic poetry perhaps where you pay attention to your thoughts and feelings, aka your mental life, but you do not proceed to interpret what is happening in your actual life (“Impressionistic literature can basically be defined as when an author centers his story/attention on the character’s mental life such as the character’s impressions, feelings, sensations and emotions, rather than trying to interpret them”, Wikipedia)?

    Recently I have been going out with a colleague of mine, nothing serious, I don’t know if I can even exactly call them dates” -vague again: what went on between Aug and Nov 2021 with one guy was not specified or labeled, and what is going on with your colleague is also not specified.

    But I can see in the way he acts toward me that he may have more serious intentions towards me” – and again, no detail of a single way in which he acts toward you.

    In regard to the first guy, you asked: “How could he seem so interested in me one day and be completely over it the next day?” – you are welcome to add details to the story (events, dialogue, non-verbal communication), and we can explore the answer to your question.

    In regard to the colleague, you wrote: “As things were going so well for some reason I am back to thinking of my ex… I want to free myself of this… I’m so tired of missing him and wishing to see him again. If you’ve read this far thank you for listening to my venting. I don’t really have anybody I can talk to in my life about him and I truly need some advice/help” – you are very welcome. If you would like to add actual details to your story, please do. I am very curious about getting to know your story with an added actual reality element to it!

    anita

     

     

    #392142
    Malakai
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    Thank you for your reply! I wasn’t sure in how many details I should go so I kept it vague but I’d love to share more details with you.

    Let’s begin with the lines “a man I’ve been waiting my whole life to meet… he was honestly exactly the type of person I always imagined myself with” and “Everything about him was fascinating to me”.  I live in a place where people have a very conservative mindset. A lot of people try and fit into a particular mould, for men (especially in my age range) in particular it’s always football, pseudo-patriotism,  I’ve also noticed a lot of these people don’t really have a particular passion they like to follow and that’s alright, but I’ve always wanted to be with somebody motivated and passionate about the things they do. I tell you this to be able to explain exactly why I found my ex so fascinating. But to explain “he was honestly exactly the type of person I always imagined myself with”: I’m naturally a very creative person. I like to draw, to write, I like to create and I wish to find somebody with a similar creative drive. He was exactly that. He was an artist with a passion for art and a wish to pursue art, even though we live in a place where art is not very appreciated by the general public. He was funny and charming, expressed an interest in me and the things I liked, we shared a lot of the same interests, music, fashion, travelling, that was a big one for me since I’ve always wanted to find somebody I could explore the world with. He was gentle and caring, and even for the short time we got to know each other before being romantically involved I felt safe with him and I felt as if we had the potential to build a strong connection as time went on.

    Seeing the way he acted around me, seeing the way he looked at me” – With this one I do feel a bit silly, because I have never had somebody act this way with me before so every time I’ve talked about it I do doubt myself if I wasn’t imagining things. But to answer, he was very gentle with me, very considerate of me and my feelings and he would often check up on me throughout the day. He made almost every first move in our relationship (I did a lot of the texting at first and I was the one who prompted our first date to happen but everything more major after that was him). And whenever he looked at me I felt like he saw only me. It was as if him and I were the only people in the world, his attention was all on me when we were together. The last time we saw each other I remember feeling a difference in the way he kissed me, I felt as if he was relaxing more around me and (saying this out loud feels a bit embarrassing but) when he kissed me I felt like it has a certain longing, a certain want for me to it.

    He started being completely distant. It was completely out of the blue for me, it made absolutely no sense… I also don’t understand it” – I’ve went back to the last times we saw each other again and again and personally I still cannot see a reason. Some of my friends have told me maybe he could have used me as a rebound or as a replacement and that if his current girlfriend started speaking to him around that time (again I’m assuming) then maybe that’s why he broke up with me, since he liked her more than he did me. All I know for sure is that on the last date we went he was acting completely normal, we had dinner, we talked, we laughed, had fun, when I got home and texted him we mad arrangements to see each other again in three days time because we were both busy those days, the next day we continued texting as usual, the day after that he started texting me less, the third day he didn’t text me all day and then he broke up with me. A very sudden progression to me and I have asked myself multiple times did I accidentally force him to see me often, am I the one at fault, but again, he always acted like he wanted to be with me and wanted to spend time with me so it still completely confuses me.

    Recently I have been going out with a colleague of mine, nothing serious, I don’t know if I can even exactly call them dates”; “But I can see in the way he acts toward me that he may have more serious intentions towards me” – The other things I kept vague intentionally but here I truly don’t have all that much to say. It all started with him driving me home and us having some longer fun conversations in his car, then we went on one date(?), again I’m not sure I can even call it that. He expresses an interest in me and tries to keep a conversation going, which isn’t always successful, he acts gentlemanly, opening doors for me, treating me to lunch, driving me from and to my house. To me these are clear signs he has some kind of feelings towards me but he never has stated his real intentions, maybe only vaguely hinted at them before but nothing more.

    I’m not sure what more could I add, you said events and dialogue but thinking back on it nothing truly stands out all that much. A lot of the time I spent with my ex before the breakup we would just be getting to know each other and our separate lives, we’d tell each other stories and talk about the things that interested us, and the dates we’d go on were pretty simple, going out for tea/coffee, our last date being more “grand” I suppose, going out to a nice restaurant for dinner and going for a walk afterwards. We planned to go watch ballet on the weekend but he broke up with me before we could do that (it was also his idea by the way). If you have any more questions I’d be glad to answer and if I can think of any more details I’ll add on.

    Malakai

    #392155
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Malakai:

    You are welcome. I am glad that you chose to provide details. I will try to use your details so to understand your story better. You shared that you are a very creative person who likes to draw and write, and your ex, unlike his peers, is not an “always football, pseudo-patriotism… art is not very appreciated” kind of a guy. Instead, he is a “motivated and passionate… an artist with a passion for art and a wish to pursue art“. The two of you shared the same interests: art, music, fashion and traveling. He was “funny and charming… gentle and caring… very considerate” even before you became romantically involved.

    You shared that in the beginning you were the one who did a lot of the texting and the one who prompted the first date (after about a month of texting), but he followed suit by checking on you throughout the day and initiating “almost every first move” in the relationship. The moves he initiated were (1) the second and a few more “pretty simple (dates)… going out for tea/ coffee” where the two of you were “just getting to know each other… tell each other stories“, over the course of a few weeks, (2) one dinner date, a dinner date that was the first and the last: “our last date being more ‘grand’… going out to a nice restaurant for dinner and going for a walk afterwards… he was acting completely normal…. we talked, we laughed, had fun“.

    Following that one dinner date, on the same night, the two of you planned to see each other three days later (he suggested that the two of you will watch ballet the following weekend). He texted you the next day as usual, less the day after and not at all the following day. Sometime later, he broke up with you, saying that he can’t reciprocate your feelings.

    How could he seem so interested in me one day and be completely over it the next day? …whenever he looked at me, I felt like he saw only me. It was as if him and I were the only people in the world, his attention was all on me when we were together. The last time we saw each other I remember feeling a difference in the way he kissed me, I felt…  like it has a certain longing, a certain want for me to it…  he always acted like he wanted to be with me and wanted to spend time with me, so it still completely confuses me” –

    – My thoughts: (1) It was not yet a relationship. It was a lot of texting, a few tea/ coffee dates and one dinner date, it was a pre-relationship phase that ended before it evolved into a relationship, (2) The reason the dinner date was the first and last could be something as simple as this: let’s say he doesn’t like to spend money unnecessarily. Texting cost him nothing, the coffee/ tea dates cost him very little, but the dinner date was expensive. Maybe he expected you to pay half of the dinner bill (or all) and you didn’t, and he didn’t feel comfortable about having paid the whole bill and about paying for future, expensive dates, so he broke up with you,

    (3) When he looked at you, you felt like he saw only you, that his attention was all on you when you were together- that could be his style, and not an indication that he felt that you were very special to him. Some people are attentive, “motivated and passionate… funny and charming“(like your ex), and it does make the people attended to feel special and they feel captivated by the person’s charm: this is how successful politicians get millions of people to vote for them- by attending to the voters’ interests, likes and dislikes, speaking with passion, using humor and being charming!

    (4) When he kissed you the last time, you felt like the kiss had a certain longing to it: maybe you confused your longing with his, believing (as is so very common for young women, at least, it used to be) that your emotional longing is equally reciprocated. But it may be that he did long for you, but later, when he looked at that restaurant bill, the longing dissipated.

    Regarding your colleague: “It all started with him driving me home… he acts gentlemanly, opening doors for me, treating me to lunch… To me these are clear signs he has some kind of feelings towards me, but he never has stated his real intentions, maybe only vaguely hinted at them before but nothing more” – you can ask him: what do you feel about me, or for me? Do you intend to have a relationship with me?

    Maybe he has a girlfriend, but is gentlemanly with all women, maybe he enjoys taking women from work out to lunch, I mean, better not go by signs (“these are clear signs“), and instead, ask.

    anita

    #392157
    Malakai
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    Thank you again for your reply.

    Concerning my ex, I do admit I had yet to get to know him well so that could definitely be his style, I definitely don’t exclude that as an option. But I do not think he broke up with me because of what that dinner date showed him. (1) He was the one who proposed it and (2) we split the bill. We always have, since I do enjoy paying my own share of every date/outing I have, I don’t usually enjoy having people pay for me.

    I could have also confused my longing for his! I have thought about that too, so I have a difficult time describing it. Maybe “longing” isn’t the right word to describe it. To put it more simple, I can say that before that date his kisses were more on the soft and gentle side, whereas after that dinner date they were more insistent.

    Regarding my colleague: I have definitely thought of asking him and it is indeed the action that makes most sense in this situation. I am certain he doesn’t have a girlfriend but you are right, I shouldn’t judge by signs, given I do prefer when people are straightforward with me.

    Malakai

    #392159
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Malakai:

    You are welcome. “I do admit I had yet to get to know him well” – and I know him, through your posts, even less. But I always found it interesting to guess and explore different possibilities when it comes to people’s motivations, so I am okay exploring with you, if you are interested.

    About his kisses: “before that date his kisses were more on the soft and gentle side, whereas after that dinner date they were more insistent” – could be something to do with the food he had at the restaurant, or maybe he had wine with dinner (favorite food alter our mood for the better, alcohol lessen inhibitions… and/ or it could be the lateness of the hour, maybe he was out with you that night later than usual?

    anita

    #392160
    Malakai
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    I do enjoy exploring this topic with you in all honesty! It’s nice to discuss it with someone.

    That night we had no alcohol but he did eat spicy food. I can’t say it was later than usual, our dates were always during different times of the day, some being later in the evening others being in the afternoon but it was towards 10 pm when the difference in his kisses stood out to me.

    Malakai

    #392161
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Malakai:

    Good, we can explore together. He had spicy food during dinner, online: “Spicy foods increases men’s sex drive [Very well mind] Those who want to have more stamina and sex drive should include a couple of spicy foods in their diet. Found in hot sauce and chili peppers, capsaicin triggers the release of endorphins the ‘feel good’ hormone and can increase your libido”.

    When it gets to be late at night, close to our bedtime, endorphins are released as well, so an increase in his endorphin level could explain his kisses being more insistent. Any other… insistent behavior on his part, that night?

    anita

    #392162
    Malakai
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    No, not really. That was the only thing that stood out that night and it was towards the end of the date when he was seeing me off. Otherwise he was being his usual self.

    Malakai

    #392163
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Malakai:

    I am glad to read that he was not more insistent than kissing. Maybe it means that he is a decent person, careful about not hurting a woman… maybe this is one reason why it was easy for him (or so it seems) to break up with you, maybe he figured that he didn’t do anything to get you too emotionally attached to him?

    anita

    #392164
    Malakai
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    I was left with a good impression about his personality, I do feel like he really is somebody who is a decent person and wouldn’t take advantage of a woman.

    But I feel like him breaking up with me was motivated exactly because he knew I got too emotionally invested in him, or so it seemed when he sent me that breakup text. If you wish I can translate it for you to read (plus the follow up with my questioning of why he’s breaking up with me) but in my opinion it was a lot of clichés and no real explanation besides the part where he does tell me that he can’t reciprocate my feelings.

    Malakai

    #392165
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Malakai:

    Could be, that he felt that you were getting “too emotionally invested in him“. His own words, translated, will probably be of great help for me, for the purpose of understanding him, so yes, please do send the exchange. Also, if you know anything about his relationships with his mother, father, anything about his childhood (be as vague as you need to be, so to not hurt his privacy, be it that this is a public forum), that could be helpful too.

    anita

    #392166
    Malakai
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    Here is the initial text he sent me:

    I want to tell you something… I don’t think things will work out between us, I know it’s dumb to say this over text, but i really don’t have the balls to tell you this to your face. I don’t think I can reciprocate your feelings, that’s why I don’t want to lead you on. I didn’t want things to happen this way and I tried, but I think you deserve better. Thank you for the good time spent together, but I don’t think I’m the person for you. I hope you understand me.

    After this initial text I wasn’t sure how to react so I ended up questioning him further, asking if I had done anything wrong and generally searching for a reason for all of this. His reply consisted of telling me I did nothing wrong, that he tried being romantically involved with me “just because” but he soon saw he rushed things and that he didn’t think it can work out if it was too much one sided. I also asked him if there was somebody else to which he said “No.” but I now doubt that answer, as I later learned that he has known his current girlfriend for far longer than he has me and given that they getting together seemed incredibly quick to me.

    I also don’t know much about his childhood, he has told me very few things, but I do know he is close with his mother and sister and that his father travels a lot.

    Malakai

    #392167
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Malakai:

    Reads to me that basically, he a decent young man- that he is honest. But of course, no one is 100% honest, 100% of the time. Like you suspected, likely he lied when he said No to your question about whether there was somebody else. Maybe he figured: why hurt your feelings further, when there is no practical reason for you to know that there was somebody else.

    Here is a possibility, and it’s only a possibility based on the very limited information I have about him: his father has traveled a lot, he stayed home with his mother and sister and was the man in the house, from an early age. He felt that the females in the household depended on him for emotional support, he tried to provide that to them, but got very tired of that role, feeling burdened it, like it was heavy weight on his shoulders.

    Fast forward, he meets a woman (you) who seems to be needy of him, similar to how his mother and sister needed him, he feels burdened, like there is a heavy weight on his shoulders, so he unburdens himself by losing his feelings for you and wanting out of the situation (breaking up with you). A possibility, in your mind?

    anita

    #392168
    Malakai
    Participant

    Dear anita,

    It is definitely a possibility. I can’t be sure about his family situation but I have felt like I was too needy at times and I do regret it. I find myself often wondering if I played it more cool would we have lasted longer? I told this to him too but I really do appreciate his honesty. I have been in a situation before where for a very long time I was led on with no definitive response from the other side so my ex’ honesty has always been very appreciated in my heart. Even so to this day I do search for blame in myself and I too feel like I rushed into things very quickly as I really did have a strong emotional investment in him (maybe I even still do even though I try to deny it).

    As I mentioned in my initial post I have come to terms that our relationship will not develop any further. He’s cut me out of his life and he’s happy with someone else and I’m happy he’s doing well. But I do often miss him and the way he made me feel.

    Malakai

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