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  • #43577
    Tammy
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    I have been in a relationship with a man, for a little over a year now. We have been friends for nearly 4 years, and I have been his confidant over his “home situation” of and on during that time. Their family has been split for many years, him and the wife have been sleeping in different rooms for a few years now, and they have been waiting for their children to get older before their divorce. They decided to file for divorce about a year and a half ago, and they began mediation appointments. Our relationship took an unexpected turn in Aug of 2012. It has been an amazing relationship. He is my best friend, and says that he feels the same way about me. He absolutely pursued me, as I am not a woman that leans easily on a man, and he worked hard to get me to allow him in, to get me to lean on him. We spent as much time together as we could, and we were in constant contact. He would say that it was nearly painful for him to leave me when he would go home. We’ve had many trips, and experiences together over the last year, and he even became involved with my kids who he loves, and they love him. This last May, he changed employers, and his work schedule has become extremely crazy over the summer. He is working at least 16 hours a day, and trying to get through his divorce and spend quality time with his kids. However, in the interim, our relationship has fallen to the backburner. He’s the kind of guy, who would send a Good Morning message every morning, and made sure he said Good Night every night. Brought over dinner, or flowers for no reason. Even dropped by when he had some downtime last week.. We have had little to no time together since the beginning of August 2013, and I have had a couple of emotional out bursts regarding the issue. Between work and the divorce, I understand that he may feel pressured, and I’m thinking that he feels pressured because of me as well. The daily messages and phone calls have stopped, and he only responds if I message him first now. He has removed our connection in fb and instagram, and when I asked why, he states that his wifes friends are tracking his posts and he wants everything on his side clear, wants them to be unable to “find anything” I’ve tried to maintain the communication, but I’m feeling like I should just step back. I don’t want to lose him. But I’m afraid I’m pushing him away by trying to maintain some semblance of a relationship with him. Please tell me what you think.. is he quitting on our relationship? The relationship that he described as a once in a lifetime find.. a soulmate relationship..? He left me last Tuesday saying that I “wrecked him” and he couldn’t sleep without me..  He has pulled away before because of his need to focus on his immediate concerns, but I’m so confused as to what to do to keep the lines connected with him without doing more damage, and pushing him away completely. I spoke with him earlier this week, because I had fears of him seeing someone else, and he responded with a resounding NO, stating that there is no time even if he wanted to.. and his divorce is heating up and becoming very nasty, yet he still maintains that as soon as this divorce is done, and work calms down, we will have more time together.. but I still feel like I’m bothering him if I try to chat with him. I trust him, the “him” I’ve known for the last 4 years, but have been burned in the past in my own 20 yr marriage, and I know that circumstances can change a person, and how they deal or react to things. I don’t want to lose this man… right up until Aug 27th, we were discussing our future, merging our families and homes… getting married when our divorces are final.. How can it change so quickly? Am I overreacting? Your help would be greatly appreciated…

    #43614
    Munchkin
    Participant

    I don’t think your overreacting. If you don’t talk to him about this, you will always be in this rut. Maybe, copy and paste EXACTLY what you have posted here, you seemed to have explained yourself very well in writing.

    #43620
    lisa
    Participant

    Have you ever read Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus? It sounds to me like he is going to his “man cave” to figure things out. One of the most common mistakes we women make is expecting our men to be “just like us” emotionally. Meaning we expect them to think and react as we would over a situation. I may be wrong in my opinion, but it seems to me that this change in his attention to you is pretty current. It sounds like he has a lot on his plate – not that you don’t, but if I were you I would maybe just back off a bit and let him get his head together. Don’t try to contact him, don’t try to “talk about it” until he is ready. I don’t mean that you should wait for months and months, but just give him a little time. Men are not as comfortable with juggling a bunch of emotional situations at once. This is just my opinion of course, i wish you luck in however you choose to deal with it.

    #43624
    Tammy
    Participant

    Thank you for your responses… This is very hard for me, because it seems so sudden. But I know that he is being bombarded from several directions, and I think I became one of the stresses in his life that he can afford to set aside. He had alot of plans for us, and while I know that he meant them at the time, he cannot possibly worry about holding up to those plans now. We knew his divorce would be difficult, and his work load just continues to become more hectic. I think he carries alot of guilt about being with me, and being happy, while being away from his daughters. He’s stated several times, how he cannot wait to have our kids all together for “family game nights” or trips to the desert, the beach.. then he would fall quiet, and eventually retreat into his cave. But never like this.

    We recently had a conversation, where I was expressing my fears of not making it through this, thinking that maybe he needed me to “disappear” for a while and he got upset with me and told me that if I needed to run, that was my choice, but he had to do what he has to do, to keep up with work, and get through the divorce without losing his kids. If I wanted to quit, fine, but he wasn’t going to.

    However, I’m torn between the signs he is throwing off, and my discussions of those signs with him. To which he has responded, even as early as this last Monday, that he just needs to get through the current hurdles of the heavy workload and his divorce.

    Since he stated those other internet sites were being stalked by his wife’s friends for ammo against him in the divorce, I tried to initiate contact through my glamis dunes account, which he helped me set up a couple of months ago, to interact with him. I went in earlier this week, added a few photos from our rides, sent him a message asking if we could be friends “here”, viewed his profile, and a few others, checked out some blogs, and logged off… When I logged back in last night, he’d posted a message in the general chat about having a “stalker”. I’m so hurt by that comment. Just Monday we were still “together” as far as he stated, and Thursday he’s posting about a stalker. Granted I don’t know if it’s about me, but if it is, I’d really like to smack him upside the head. Honestly, I think he needs to be angry at me right now, to be able to stay away. Maybe he doesn’t even know that he’s doing it. I don’t know. I have seen photos from other websites, that suggests he might be hanging with a new crew of people. I’m thinking he has found a new escape, and it doesn’t include me.

    We used to talk constantly everyday. During the last few days, the discussions have been driven by me. He engages, but doesn’t initiate. So Wednesday I sent him an email, letting him know that I support him, and would like to continue being here for him through this process. Whether it be during or after. Then I sent him an IM to let him know that he had an email, because he doesn’t use the account very often. He only signed up so we could communicate through the chat. He responded saying he would have to remember how to get into the account. Gave him a couple pointers, then there were a few minor chats later in the afternoon.

    But, for a FULL 36 Hours.. for the first time in 2 years, I have not spoken to him. I’m trying to strengthen my resolve to step back, give him some space. And let him decide whether or not I’m still the person he wants to spend the rest of his life with. I’m going to give him time, but I’m setting myself a goal in order to do that. Right now I’m going to get through the weekend without messaging him, but I plan to call him next week, to voice my feelings, and let him go. Maybe it’s a mistake, maybe it will wake him up. Either way, we have a long road of recovery ahead of us, and he has to understand that what he is doing hurts.

    I want to make this work with him, I’m scared it will take years for him to figure it out. I’m hoping it will take days. To me, it’s a good relationship. It’s worth waiting for. But just in case, I will continue to take my baby steps to move on with my life. This has begun to affect my health, and I need to get back into control of my life.

    #43633
    Macintosh
    Participant

    Are you in a State where infidelity could be used against him in the divorce? This could explain his behaviour and all the changes he’s made recently and how he is acting towards you. Or, he’s scared his wife is going to screw him over either way if she finds out he’s been seeing you while they were still married.

    He isn’t handing this properly and it’s cruel of him to be dismissive and cut you off like this. Sorry to say, it makes me think that he and his wife are not divorcing, that things have changed, yet he still wants you in his life too but without his wife’s knowledge. Hate to ask but you are 100% sure a divorce was actually happening? Just seems his behaviour is off and the way he’s cut you out of his life so quickly.

    Yes, detach and do take care of yourself. This is out of your hands, whatever is going on at their home has nothing to do with you but the feeling I get is (sorry again) something is very ‘off’ here and he isn’t being completely upfront and honest with you as to what is going on.

    #43635
    MICKIE
    Participant

    My heart goes out to you for having to just sit and wait….it is the hardest thing when you love someone. I can tell you from experience…dating while divorcing is not easy…..and merging families after divorce is not easy either. With the right person it is doable but patience is the key. I would give him his space and see how he handles it. But when you speak to him next set your limits kindly so as not to push him away further but protect yourself as well. I am finally in a fantastic relationship, but it is tested daily. Remember, anything worth having is worth fighting for!!

    #43646
    Tammy
    Participant

    Hi Mac and Mickie…

    No we’re not in a state where it can be used against him, however, he still worries about the “Character Building” portion of the divorce. He is 15k into this divorce, and I really have no suspicion whatsoever that he is staying with the wife. They are currently going through asset and debt accountability. And will eventually be going to court over the custody of the two children. Which is why he states he wants his side clear, so she cannot claim him as an Unfit Parent for any reason whatsoever. They’re situation can be verbally volatile at times, and I know that is exhausting for him. As he is not a confrontational person, and she likes to scream and cry to communicate. {He comes from a quiet calm family, while hers is argumentative and dramatic}.

    I’ve been through the same type of fear, when my own spouse and I separated. The panic that set in over the thought of losing my kids was mind blowing and terrifying. And I withdrew from everyone around me, so I could deal with the overwhelming emotions. We have since worked everything out. And have a cordial separation with him living with his girlfriend, me on my own, and the kids sharing equal time with each of us. Divorce for us, is just a matter of having enough money to get it done.

    I agree that the way he is handling this is cruel and hurtful, and I’m not sure he realizes the depth to which he has hurt me, nor can he handle knowing. Two weeks ago, I would never have thought that he would completely cut off communication with me. I’m trying to be understanding, and give him his space. It’s been nearly 48 hours since I last messaged him, and I’ve been able to get some decent food into my system.

    The desire to call him, or send him a message gets overwhelming at times, but these forums, and responses from all of you are helping to keep my mind at ease, so I can continue on my quest to give him some time and space before having the much needed conversation about how he is handling this, and how it’s made me feel.

    Thank you for the support..

    #44044
    Tammy
    Participant

    Well, I broke silence after nearly a week of no contact. (Which was huge for us) I apologized for panicking and adding more stress at a time when he really just needed his best friend to be supportive. He responded, a little irritated with me. We went back and forth a little, but I didn’t push it. When he said he was working and stopped, I stopped too.

    Two days went by, and he messaged me on my birthday, gave me a little update on what he was doing that day, progress he was making in preparing for two households. I offered supportive comments, said thank you for the birthday wishes, and let it drop.

    The next day, he called me on his way home. Sounding very tired, distracted. He gave me another update on work (how behind and unfocused he is) and everything he’s been doing with the divorce, told me about the things he’s found to prepare for the two houses, and let me know that they have custody hearings at the end of December. He stated, once the custody portion is complete, where he is, and who he is seeing when the kids are with their mother won’t matter anymore. I also updated him on the new things occurring in my life with me and my kids, and his response was, “wow, you guys are making more progress than I am”

    I know this whole process is slow going, and frustrating for him, he had anticipated that the divorce would be well under way, and that our families would start merging this year.. I know this is a huge disappointment for him.. I tried to prepare him, tried to get him to slow his thought process, extend it a year or so… but, when he wants something, he pushes for it, goes all out to get to his goal, and I know that right now, his goal is not losing his children, and getting this divorce finished.

    However silly it may be… I’m still torn, and I feel bad, because I feel like, he doesn’t ask me to “hang in here” because he trusts in us more than I do, and doesn’t feel like it’s necessary to ask. And I need to hear the words, but he’s already said them so many times in the past, maybe I am asking/expecting too much from him right now? I keep worrying there is more than just the divorce keeping him away from us, (because I’m being fatalistic?) and I miss him constantly. I know that in the past, when we are together, he has a very hard time leaving, and I think, this is why he is closing me out right now. Locking us down, so he can focus on the tasks at hand. And not be enticed to throw caution to the wind.

    He’s still keeping contact, updating me when he really doesn’t have to.. this has to be a good sign, right?

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