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October 22, 2017 at 6:38 am #174167AnonymousGuest
Dear Heartbrokengurl:
To no longer be confused, you need information, you need to know how he thinks, why he breaks up with you repeatedly, what is his distress leading to the breakups. You need to know what about his time with you is distressing to him (leading to breaking up with you). You need to know why he… doesn’t break up with you when he breaks up with you (planning to hang out next weekend is not breaking up).
If you want to fight for him, you need to get to know him. Without information you are fighting in the dark. Get information, and there is light: you can see!
anita
October 23, 2017 at 10:21 am #174397AnonymousInactiveThanks Anita.
Im very curious to hear what he will say to all of this. I’m starting to get nervous though that I haven’t heard from him at all since our phone call. Makes me feel like he’s already forgotten about me and doesn’t care 🙁
November 21, 2017 at 12:36 pm #178979TrxdParticipantAs weird as it may sound, I am going through what your boyfriend feels at the moment, at least I think. I can tell you that the problem I’m baving is a lack of self-confidence in my relationship, and I feel as though I simply cannot control it. last week I told my girlfriend that I didn’t know whether our relationship was going to work and explained that I’m going through some shit at the moment. I fucking hate myself for bringing my problems into our relationship because I love her, so I suspect you’re boyfriend feels the same – he doesn’t want to drag you down. Myself, im trying to fake it until I make it because I shouldn’t feel like this. In your situation, I would ask myself whether I’d want to carry on in the relationship and help him get over his lack of self-confidence, or whether you don’t have the strength to do that anymore. I think he still misses you but he’s taking a break so that he doesn’t overload u with his self-confidence issues.
November 26, 2017 at 7:47 pm #179513AnonymousInactiveThanks Trxd for your message.
I do truly believe it’s just something he’s trying to work on with himself.
I saw him three weeks ago, and we did sleep together, which made it confusing. He said he loves me..but he was still very distant the last few weeks.
I just came from his place and we hung out for a few hours. At first he didnt answer any of my texts for a couple hours so I thought he didn’t want to see me anymore. I sent a text asking if I could just come by to say goodbye since it seemed he didn’t want to see me anymore.
He finally got back to me, and said sorry that he was out and had just got home, that he was confused, but to come by. When i got there he was very welcoming, and gave me a big hug. We talked for a bit, then watched this show that we wanted to watch together. I could tell he wanted to cuddle, but I kept my distance because I didn’t want to just ‘throw’ myself at him.
When the show was over, he held me for a little bit. I asked him if the sex from before was just for that, and he said no, but he was confused after that as well. I told him I didn’t want to pressure him into anything he wasn’t ready for, but that I was enjoying spending time with him.
He said that he’s thought about me a lot (what he said in response to me saying that I’ve missed him), and that he’s been seeing a counsellor again.
He said that we would keep hanging out watching our show…see what happens basically.
I’m terrified of getting hurt, but I can’t seem to stay away, especially when I can see him hurting too, and gives me some sort of ‘hope.’
When I left, he hugged me and kissed my head, then i tried to kiss him but he kissed my cheek. It felt like a slap in the face, but I guess he’s not wanting to confuse me. His emotions and how he feels about me has been the most confusing thing, but I believe we’re meant to be, so I’m not sure whether to keep asking him about how he’s feeling about us, or try to relax, and let things go naturally, without pressuring him….or date other guys??
November 27, 2017 at 4:34 am #179537AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
On November 9 I posted the following to you on another thread and you responded to it there that I was 100% correct:
“… you repeat the same thing over and over again: reaching out to a connection with a man, finding comfort in it, followed by anxiety. Repeat. The reaching out to a man is not different from a person reaching out to a drug to relieve one’s anxiety. It gives you a relief, temporarily, and then you need another fix. Over and over again. It is a compulsion… so caught between anxiety and comfort, you are just not available for a mature, give and take, loving relationship. You are simply too worried most of the time and too exhilarated temporarily, and then too worried again”.
What you described in your latest post is you getting another fix, another relief. And so it goes. Thing is there is nothing unusual about this repeat behavior, it is common human behavior to be caught in a compulsion, to repeat the same old same old. (This repetition has been with men before him, and with a man who was your reliable boyfriend before- the worries/anxiety resurfaced anyway, relieved, resurfaced and so on).
Imagine a life outside this compulsion, a life where you are no longer afraid, where you realize that what you were afraid of already happened: you were left alone, you are often alone and you survived it.
And then, imagine you have a relationship with a man where you and him share honestly about how you feel alone and together, where you help each other, where you feel seen and understood and so does he, where the man is not like a drug but a fellow human being and your partner in life. No guessing, no mind reading, no vague hoping, but real life living, honest sharing, truth, love.
anita
November 27, 2017 at 11:29 am #179587AnonymousInactiveThanks Anita, you always have such great advice.
my anxiety does get the better of me and it did yesterday. When I didn’t hear from him I felt so abandoned. Then when he acts loving towards me, it is like a glimmer of hope and reassurance, or as you say a fix.
Im terrified of losing him and him never changing his mind about wanting to be in a relationship again.
Do you think it’s fair to say to him or ask him that if we continue to spend time together, we both have to be honest how we are feeling so we know where each other is at? At this point im not even sure he is in love with me anymore. So if I say that and also tell him if he sees not absolute future with me than I neee to walk away:
I’m so tired of feeling this way but I’m so in love with him I can’t seem to let go.
November 27, 2017 at 11:36 am #179589AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
You are welcome. Being honest is the best policy if you aim at a loving relationship, yes, I don’t see how it can be better not to be honest, not to be open, both ways. Something good can come out of a mutual disclosure. I wrote mutual, meaning, I don’t think it is a good idea that you leave it all up to him, but that you tell him about what is going on with you, how you feel, just as you feel. Then ask how he feels.
Will be away from the computer for the next sixteen hours or so, take care.
anita
November 28, 2017 at 4:46 pm #179799AnonymousInactiveI agree, honesty is the best policy. However, I’m scared being honest might push him away? I’m reading all these things to ‘get an ex back’ that say you have to ‘pretend’ to be happy and moved on, or let go to make him come back to you.
My anxiety got the better of me today too thinking about what happened with him the other day (him not wanting to kiss me), and I can’t help but think the worst, that he doesn’t find me attractive, or want me anymore, or believe that he will contact me this week like he says he will. I feel like hes just saying all of these things to make me feel better in the moment, hoping I will just forget about it and move on.
I wish I could stop putting him on this pedestal, and stop feeling so heart broken. We were only technically together for 3 months, but it still hurts like hell, and my friends make me feel like i’m crazy for feeling this way after only such a short period of time, but I can’t help how I feel.
I’m trying to practice self love and meditation (and seeing my psychologist again next week), but it feels like nothing I’m doing is helping, and its getting really frustrating. I just want him to want me, and go back to the way it was (minus the anxiety in the relationship). I dont know if we will ever get back to that spot because I can feel things changing now, and its scary.
Sorry for the long rant and vent….Just had a really bad day thinking of everything, and how depressed I feel about this whole situation.
November 29, 2017 at 5:02 am #179857AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
You suggested that your friends think you are crazy for feeling so heart broken after only three months of a relationship. I don’t think you are crazy. I think you feel so heart broken because you have been heart broken for a long, long time, way before you met this man. This is why your user name is heart broken (girl), isn’t it?
Honestly is the best policy in intimate relationships, or in relationships where you hope for intimacy. There can be no intimacy without honesty. Pretending anything you are not with a man so to get him back is dishonestly manipulative. Sometimes it can work, short term, but the person pretending has to be able to pretend again and again, something that is very difficult for you, maybe impossible, given your anxiety.
So I recommend being honest with him, nothing that you can lose, really. I mean, you already lost plenty of times, none of your past romantic relationships is ongoing now, and this one is likely to become a thing of the past as well, just like the others.
By not sharing honestly, by pretending anything at all with him, in Reality, you are protecting another failed relationship. Better try something different, something that might benefit you: honest sharing, as is.
anita
December 4, 2017 at 9:40 am #180487AnonymousInactiveThanks Anita,
So I have some good news. We spent the evening together last night and it was actually really great. We had dinner together, and watched some shows. We sat and cuddled a bit and I was debating in my head whether or not to talk to him, because we haven’t really talked about where each other is at in a while. I asked if we could talk and he said sure. So I told him that since we have broken up, I’ve realized that I really needed to work on myself, being able to be alone and learning to love myself again. I also apologized for making him feel as though he had to give me ‘extra love’ because I couldn’t give it to myself.
He told me not to apologize and he never felt like that. He just felt bad where he was at and couldn’t meet me half way.
He said he thinks about me a lot, and always wants to reach out and see how I’m doing etc., but doesn’t want to confuse me, because he said he still doesn’t want a relationship.
He said he’s still working on himself, and he’s feeling better, just not sure when he will be ready. He told me not to worry, that he’s not looking for anyone else or anything like that…and also said that he’s been a bit worried that I met someone or started seeing someone.
We sort of came up with a compromise, as I told him that I shouldn’t be in a relationship at this point either, and I need to work on myself.
We are still going to continue spending time with each other, talking etc., and see where things go, with no expectations right now.
I realize it may seem a bit ‘dangerous’ to be doing this and seeing each other, as I think at some point we might get confused, and hopeful for something more. I do believe that we will be together again one day, so for now I’m taking it one day at a time, working on myself, getting to know him better, and seeing what happens. So all in all, I feel a lot better, and I’m so glad I decided to be honest with him.
December 4, 2017 at 10:01 am #180491AnonymousGuestDear Heartbrokengurl:
You are welcome. Reads like good progress to me, some honest sharing on your part and his.
It also reads to me that you and him are in a relationship, a certain kind of a relationship. One where he stated clearly that he is not ready and willing at this point to call I t a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, one where he is expected to perform as a boyfriend, one with expectations. I think that aiming to get to know each other is a great aim, can’t be a better aim, or goal.
There can’t be loving intimacy without getting to know each other, so keeping that aim in mind is the best you can do to turn this into a loving, intimate relationship. You already started this and this is becoming a more loving, intimate relationship.
It is not in declaring: This is a boyfriend-girlfriend, monogamous, committed relationship that makes it a loving, intimate relationship. No. It is the getting to know each other, the honest sharing that makes a relationship such.
Knowing each other takes time, it can’t be rushed. Building trust takes time. And so you are in a developing relationship.
Really, there is no security in declarations, as you well know. Even when you had the title of girlfriend and such in the past, you were still anxious. So get to know each other- more security in that.
anita
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