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  • #49016
    Nikola
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    Ok so this is how it happened.
    Since I know that many of my friends went anxious because of reading unprofessional advices for some random symptoms on the internet, I promised that I will never read on the internet for symptoms. But I had some pulsating in my ear, an I googled and guess what I’ve found – Brain tumor.
    After a month I started searching the net, and from brain tumor, I diagnosed my self with lung cancer, kidney caner, stone in gallbladder, bone cancer etc etc.. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Because english isn’t my native, I didn’t know that anxiety is the name of my disorder. I again promised my self that I will not search the net for sicknesses and I am still on that promise. That’s why I am reading tinybuddha’s post about anxiety and I really find them helpful. It’s all in my mind and only I can fix it with practice.

    But there is more that bothers me. I smoked cannabis 2 days ago, and we all know how paranoid it makes us. I came back home, still dizzy from the weed, I heart some crack in the floor (which happens everyday in every house) and my paranoid mind made it like it’s someone in the house. I heard another voice/crack or whatever, and the first though my anxious mind provided was – You are going schizophrenic.

    I didn’t and still don’t want to search the internet for schizophrenia symptoms, because I am aware that in the past, my anxiety made all the symptoms be so real that actually I will believe I am sick.

    2 days straight I was still having anxious thoughts but the one’s for schizophrenia were rare. Those 2 days I was recovering good because of the advices here on tinybuddha. BUT, yesterday, it was my anniversary with my GF and we smoked again. At the beginning I wasn’t paranoid because I trained my mind about anxiety, and honestly, that was the first 60 minutes I felt relaxed since my first anxiety attack. BUT, my fuc*ing anxiety was stronger than me when the “Highness” finished, and only the paranoia left in me. (I know it may be the weed I will not smoke for some time) I felt scared and my mind started to Watch about some sign or symptom from schizophrenia to came in. (I am aware that Watching for signs is one of the symptoms of the anxiety).
    And guess what, nothing unusual happened, but still I was searching for signs. I tried to calm down with the tips from tiny buddha but I was stressed whole night.

    I know reality, I am aware of it. I know that there isn’t anyone behind the door, or following me or whatever. But my mind still kept searching for something unusual to happen to prove me I am schizophrenic. (actually while writing this post, my anxious mind tells me that someone will reply on this post that I am schizophrenic ๐Ÿ˜€ )

    I don’t know how to stop thinking for going crazy. I don’t care that much about the other physical sicknesses because I know I will stop carrying about them after I visit the doctor. I care about mental disorders and going crazy. The certainty that I know I am not schizophrenic is the difference of the present and the future. Depression is from the past, anxiety is scarring for the future, and schizophrenia makes you be afraid from something in the present time. And I know I am not that. I am not scared that someone is watching me following me or whatever, I am scared that if I drive to work, my mind will start looking for signs or cars driving behind me, so they can be connected with schizophrenia. Even in those moments, when there is normal car behind me, my heart start’s beating fast not because someone is following (even in that moments I am aware that’s not true), it’s beats fast because I am scarred of the possibility of becoming schizophrenic.

    Thanks in advance for understanding me and providing me help.
    Nikola

    #49021
    Helen
    Participant

    Nikola,

    Dear brother, you are quite normal and most likely not Schizophrenic. People who think they are one thing or not, and are extreemely paranoid about it, are most likely not it. If you want to put your mind at ease, go to a professional and get tested. Sometimes this will greatly relieve anxiety and start aiding in putting your mind to rest.

    I will share this with you, and maybe it will help a little bit. When I was a student of Psychology in college, I had all kinds of mental ailments. In my head that it. It is a known fact that students, or those who read about these things, identify with what they read and believe they are “sick” which in turn can produce much anxiety. In truth, there are very few definites, and we all fall on the spectrum somewhere on the scales of “ilnesses.” This just is. Maybe knowing this will help.

    The second part that is of note is the weed. Any mind-altering substances can wreck havock on you. I am not for or against weed (I choose not to use it because I do not like the effects of it) but I will ask you to reread what you said about how it makes YOU feel. High, low. Would it not be nicer if you could achieve this “high” naturally and then sustain it? When you learn to achieve balance in your thoughts, which takes a lot of practice, patience, insight, you will come to realize that you do not need, or crave, any outside substances to make you happy as you are.

    Perhaps starting by taking a regular meditation practice would be beneficial for you. Rather than analyzing your thoughts observe them, let them pass through you, and learn to introduce “healthier” thoughts into your mind.

    With light and warmth,
    Helen

    #49023
    Nikola
    Participant

    Thanks Helen, the second paragraph is a relief, huge one.

    As I said I caught my mind searching for signs that will prove schizophrenia. And I tried to explain that there is no sign, only searching for signs. When I catch my self doing that again, I just say my mind, is there truly a sign? or you are just looking for some? It releases me.

    I am newbie in meditating and I already downloaded the “calm” app from calm.com. I also downloaded the Yoga program from P90X and I will start doing it today. I wanted in the morning but I had an appointment with a doctor. My physical health is great, my blood is healthier than dragons blood, actually they were amazed of my FE level because I am vegetarian. And it’s a relief to know you are healthy.

    About the weed, I am aware of it too. I wasn’t aware in the first panic attack 2 days ago, I thought it’s real. Despite the fact the second after-weed-attack was real too, I explained my self that I had no attack for 2 days (which is the time I was without weed).

    I am 100% sure it’s anxiety combined with weed paranoia, but combined they look scary.
    Until now I’ve read 8-10 tinybuddha’s article that helped me. I believe I have good and strong psych, but I still needed opinion for my case from peaceful and mindful people here on this site.

    Thanks again I really appreciate your help and your time.
    Nikola

    P.S. The doctor I went is a cardiologist, he is one of the best in our region and luckily he is my father dearest friend. After blood and heart analyzes we had a nice talk that released me a bit. But he prescribed Helex. I’ve never believed in drugs and I am not sure if I should take it. Maybe if I have some hard attack I will take a half as prescribed, but I am not sure for every day usage. The biggest concern is if I teach the mind to be peaceful only under drug usage, I am more optimistic if I teach my mind my self, to be immune from stuff like this.

    #49026
    Matt
    Participant

    Nikola,

    In addition to Helen’s heartfull response, consider that weed can sometimes cause fixation. “These are the best chips ever” or “this is the funniest thing I have ever seen”. It seems as though you are simply fixating on your fear of the unknown, and calling it schizophrenia. You are clearly not schizophrenic. When you smoke weed, you get paranoid as you fixate on “what if”. Is the high worth the low? Are the lessons weed brings you worth the agitation?

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #49038
    Nikola
    Participant

    Hey Matt, as I read your words I remembered a video I watched about how weed work and how Cannaboids cause this fixation. With weed you can’t concentrate on more then one thing, and I believe anxiety gives us the same. Thanks for reminding me this, but probably yesterday I was so fixate on the fear I couldn’t get it out of my mind.

    The high was not worth the low, but the low was worth to achieve the pure high
    Thanks for the help

    #49074
    Helen
    Participant

    Nikola,

    I do not know all the facts about you but from what I am reading here, you have a strong mind, vibrant, thoughtful, highly insightful, and willing to flex in the direction it needs to go to be healthy. Doctors often prescribe antianxiety or antidepressant medications because they are a quick fix, and in certain circumstances they are needed (if someone is so depressed or anxious that they have repeated panic attacks or are actively suicidal). But those are seldom meant to be a long term solution for someone unless they have a true chemical inbalance. Usually a thoughtful physician prescribes not only medication but therapy as well so that the patient can come to understanding of what caused the anxiety/depression and work on resolving the issue. Medication helps to calm the mind physically/chemically so the person can start doing the mental work. The docs usually say to take it for 6 months to 3 years depending on the person and how long it takes to establish new patterns so that the depression and anxiety do not come back. You esentially become armed with mental power and then slowly wean off the meds (and weaning slowly is crucial because stopping them abruptly can be life-treathening). I completely understand your apprehension regarding this.

    To share my experience, maybe it will help, when I was going theough a divorce, I was experiencing much depression and anxiety and my doctor prescribed medication. At that time I felt strong enough to tackle the feelings with a good therapist and refused to take the meds. Fortunately my therapist was absolutely amazing, and I was a good student and VERY determined, that I was able to overcome those hurdles within a year without medication. I will always remember my last appoitment with her where she told me “Helen, you do not need me anymore, you have it all figured out. You are strong, you did the work, and you are free now.” I was so sad because I miss her to this day but I remember clearly all that I learned during our time together.

    On another occassion, however, I was in a real pickle where EVERYTHING seemed to be thrown at me at once and I did not have the coping mechanisms in place yet so I took medication. Yes, it did stop the thoughts, yes it did calm me, but the true change came when I did the work. I noticed that the medication calmed me a little too much and I did not like that feeling, plus there are many side effects to live with when you take meds. I prefer working through the pain, if I can handle it.

    So, in short, you have to consider your whole circumstances. How bad are the thoughts, do you need a little assistance to calm them before doing the work, or are you ready now to do it on your own? There is no right or wrong here, or shame to be experienced, it is just a matter of what you feel is right for you. (Also, I hope you were honest with your doctor and told him about the weed before he prescribed the meds to you – sometimes different substances can have interractions which can be very unpleasant and dangerous.)

    Regarding meditation, there are many options to be found on YouTube. One I particularly like is Peace of Mind meditation (http://youtu.be/AVAUBYw951o). If this one does not appeal to you, you can search for peace of mind meditation and explore a few until you find one you can enjoy.

    With light and warmth,
    Helen

    #49076
    Nikola
    Participant

    Helen,

    Today when I woke up the first thing I did is I spoke to my mom, the second thing I did is I wrote this article… Few hours later I went to the doctor. I was released a bit. Reading your second paragraph in the first answer, and Matt’s explanation about fixation was a huge relief. Today I had so few bad thoughts and they just came in, felt powerless, and flew away. I couldn’t open my self about the weed to the doctor because I didn’t had the courage. Honestly, I don’t care about that, I only care that my mind is peaceful today.

    I am so thankful I discovered this site. Few weeks ago I was just another perfectionist who want’s to live a perfect life, surrounded by perfect people… Impossible enough right? I must admit I am an angry person. I believe my anxiety comes from it too. Come on, I am so perfectionist that I was angry when someone is chewing loudly in my presence… When I searched my mind, I started believing this is the root of my anxiety. BUT, discovering this page was more like discovering my inner self.

    Talking about my anger. I don’t know it’s roots, I started believing it’s because of my father-authority problem (everything I do is just childish for my father, EVERYTHING), but who knows…. I was never aware of the things I did in the past (about my anger management). But reading posts here on tiny buddha explained a lot of things. After thinking and thinking I understood that I was a guy who want’s to control the moment. It’s impossible right? I can’t control someone’s chewing loudly… It’s his/her choice. I am practicing living in the present, I am practicing mindfulness, I believe I can accomplish it. I know I can. I can’t be certain about that, but I also practice to live with uncertainty (after all, I have many friends who experienced anxiety and they just waited to die, I don’t know someone in person who started training his mind. I must thank whole tiny buddha for that!).

    Thanks for all the positive answers.
    Peacefully,
    Nikola

    #49146
    Nikola
    Participant

    Ok, so today I had the biggest relief until now. I know I may not won the war, but I am certain a won the critical battle.

    Few days in a row, I spend 2-3 hours reading on tinybuddha. I started with anxiety posts, and now I expanded to anger management, mindfulness, etc… So today while working, I has some anxiety attack and I was pretty nervous and couldn’t concentrate on working. So I broke my “vow” and I searched anxiety symptoms. The first result I met was this site

    And I am proud I searched this because I’ve found many of the symptoms that scared me, where actually anxiety symptoms.
    The symptoms that actually scared me the most for my physical and mental health were the following, It’s a huge huge huge relief to know that those are anxiety symptoms:

    • A โ€˜tinnyโ€™, โ€˜metallicโ€™ or โ€˜ammoniaโ€™, or unusual smell or taste
    • Eye tricks, seeing things our of the corner of your eye that isnโ€™t there, stars, flashes (this scared me the most, I experience this when I am using my phone and I am focused on it, on the corner of my site a light flashes, the first thing my anxious mind thought is guess what – SCHIZOPHRENIA ๐Ÿ™‚ )
    • Eyes sensitive to light
    • “Stuck” thoughts; thoughts, mental images, concepts, songs, or melodies that “stick” in your mind and replay over and over again.(usually songs, almost always I sing something in my head)
    • Nightmares, bad dreams
    • Fear of going crazy
    • Pulsing in the ears, throbbing sound in the ear(s)….(Isn’t it paradox, the first signs of anxiety I remember is when I googled Ear Pulsating, which was actually anxiety symptom ๐Ÿ™‚ …)
    • A heightened fear of what people think of you
    • Rib or rib cage tightness, pressure, or feeling like a tight band around the rib cage
    • Muscle Twitching
    • Neck, back, shoulder pain, tightness/stiffness
    • Night sweats, waking up in a sweat, profusely sweating at night
    • And few more… Like increased heart rate, and face burn while I have anxiety attack..

      Not all of those scared me, but many of the symptoms looked like dying or going crazy.

      Please answer me, there is no-one I believe more now, than mindful and peaceful minds on tinybuddha (especially those who had anxiety)
      Please give me your opinion, it’s just anxiety right?

      I know anxiety strikes hardest when you are uncertain for something, and certainty that you are anxious will actually heal you from anxiety right? ๐Ÿ™‚
      Since I read those symptoms, I felt like some heavy weight vanished from my heart and stomach.

      NO MATTER WHAT YOU ANSWER I PROMISE I WILL KEEP READING HOW TO LIVE WITH UNCERTAINTY, HOW TO BE MINDFUL….
      4 days on tinybuddha and I already find my self more mindful in the present; I started noticing everything; I am rarely catching negative thoughts (except this morning, I was stressful until I read the symptoms); I am meditating 3 days in a row (the first 2 times I felt asleep but it’s guided meditation and I am improving); I started doing yoga (it’s a difficult program (p90x), but it’s my favorite fitness program)..

      With relief,
      Nikola

    #49180
    Helen
    Participant

    Nikola,

    I am sorry for your suffering. What I am seeing in your posts is that you are caught in a cycle of “driving yourself crazy.” On the one hand you know this is all in your head, and on the other hand you are continuing with actions that are making it worse. Sometimes when a soul is in this state, it is best to stop everything and just go to a safe place and scream or cry, whichever you feel like you need to do. Your thoughts may be creating an avalanche of chemical buildup in your body and you may first need to release that in a safe way.

    Another thing that that would be helpful is when you feel that “urge” to start looking up things, just stop. Resist. Do not do it. Sit. Breathe until the urge diminishes. Looking at those materials is obviously making your anxiety worse. Think of it this way – the urge comes, think “if I give in, how will that make me feel,” when you realize that it will make you feel more miserable the urge will slowly fade. This takes time an practice but the more you do it, the easier it will become.

    One more pattern I am sensing in your posts is that you become fixated to things. Fixations bring on suffering. It is good that you are reading TinyBuddha and reaching out to the community, but be careful not to make this your lifeline. Yes, it is a place of comfort, but it is online, impersonal, and you may not always get an answer or get an answer in short time. Seeing your situation, I would highly recommend finding a good therapist with whom you can explore your feelings, and learn to manage your thoughts, in a controlled environment. Meaning, you will see them face to face, be able to have an immediate response discussion. Often, when someone has anxiety, anticipating a response on an online forum can make anxiety even worse. You reached out to me, but what if I was not able to respond for some reason that had nothing to do with you (had to be with my family, had a personal emergency, or just did not have an answer that would be helpful)? Having a therapist is a more reliable lifeline until you can learn to deal with your thoughts and emotions on your own.

    Right now you are experiencing an upsurge of excitement because reading is helping and that is wonderful. Be mindful that you may crush again. This is not uncommon when someone has anxiety. What I learned is that if icky feelings come, I just have to allow myself to feel them for a time, let them wash over me. Inevitably peace comes again, and so goes back and forth. Nothing is permanent in life, including feelings.

    Please consider what I said and seek a therapist at this time. It will help you tremendously to talk with someone in person who can teach you coping strategies (for both anxiety and anger). When I was in turmoil, my therapist was my saving grace. No amount of reading or online “connections” helped until I found her and was able to safely release and learn with someone who was trained to help me.

    May you find peace and comfort.
    Helen

    #49186
    Matt
    Participant

    Nikola,

    In addition to Helens heartfelt (but perhaps over emphatic) words, consider that anxiety is in the body. Thoughts do spin, but a lot of it is lower in the body… fast pulse, rapid breathing and so on. A close friend of mine used to have panic attacks, and her doctor told her to breathe into her shirt (pulling the collar up over her nose and breathing slow and deep). She told me that after a few minutes, her body would calm down. Good luck!

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #49187
    Matt
    Participant

    Oops, double post!

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 11 months ago by Matt.
    #49192
    Helen
    Participant

    Matt,

    Thank you for pointing that out ๐Ÿ™‚ The “over emphatic” sometimes leaks in because of my upbringing. Nikola wrote me a direct message earlier asking to please reply to his post. I felt a sense of responsibility and urgency so it came out over emphatic. In addition, my job has been a bit more energy draining in the last few days so I come from a place of “tired” rather than “well rested” when I wrote. With that, I must rest too ๐Ÿ™‚

    Nikola, I appologize if any of what I said offended in any way.

    Yes, the shirt breathing does work. When the attack happens, and your thoughts start to race, your breathing becomes really shallow and the brain is not getting enough oxigen. The shirt will help “subdue” the air coming in when you take the deep breaths so that it does not shock you (this is the best way I know how to explain it). Just continue to take deep breaths until your heart stops racing and the tingling in your head subsides.

    Helen

    #49196
    Matt
    Participant

    Helen,

    No biggie.

    With warmth,
    Matt

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