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    [Account Deleted]
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    I don’t know what to do? I’ve been trying to forgive my mother for beating me and causing havoc in the family for so long but I can’t, I still feel so resentful and angry. These emotions aren’t healthy, I desperately want to be free. I hate her, but I’m the only one being harmed here. I’ve dealt with these cruel emotions since I was a toddler so I never express them as an adult to anyone but it makes me feel like dying. Luckily, Dad has greatly improved as a father recently and my mother has gone on medication and hasn’t started any arguments in a long time (she’s still creepy, but oh well, at least she isn’t hurting anyone). Why can’t I just let go? I’ve been depressed since middle school (not to mention social and general anxiety) and I just want to die but I refuse to do that to my little brother, it’s like being trapped in my own inner hell.

    I’m 20 now and I’m living at home, Dad (bless him) wants me to stay until I recover. I know life isn’t fair, and there’s no justice in the world, and I have a good amount to be grateful for, so why do I feel so horrible? I just don’t want to be alive anymore, I don’t belong here. It would be great to just watch my favorite TV show then off myself while happy, at least I wouldn’t have to be a failure anymore. There’s nothing that makes me happier than thinking about suicide, as messed up as that sounds. The worst part is that my mother buys me tasty food and apologized, and I understand that she’s sorry, but how can anyone expect me to instantly recover from a lifetime of pain with a bit of food. I know she tried, but she was immensely selfish and abusive, and I refuse to make up with her.

    How do people stay so normal? How do they even function? I have a strong feeling that if I forgive, all these terrible emotions will go away and I will become normal for once in my life, but I’m not doing a very good job. I’m completely broken and it’s absolutely vital that I forgive because there isn’t any reason not to. Any advice would be gracious and much appreciated.

    #191773
    Bridget
    Participant

    Hi Matt,

    I have never commented on any forum post before but I came across yours and I feel like maybe I can give you a bit of a glimpse of what life down the road may look like for you if you get through this, and I am absolutely certain you will. First of all, you are a very well spoken young person (I’m now well into my 30’s so I remember what 20 was like) who clearly has a great deal of emotional intelligence. You are ahead of the game by recognizing the wrong doings of your mother and the effects that it has had on you. You also mentioned how you would not inflict pain on your little brother. I am sure your brother loves and needs you more than you could know. I’m sure your mother hasn’t been great to him either and you have in a sense been “war buddies”. I remember huddling in the bedroom with my little siblings when my parents were at war with each other and any one of us that crossed their path, I kept them safe until they were old enough, then I got help for myself and accidentally forgave my parents. I began to learn more of their childhoods and realized my mom and dad were still those hurt little children trying to get rid of the pain they carried with them all these years. Unfortunately they handed that pain on to us, as your mom has done to you. Now here you stand, her pain in your hands. The weight of it is heavy and you need to put it somewhere. If you were to hurt yourself, you would put that weight on your brother. That is not what you want so please reach out to talk to a pro about your thoughts of suicide. You need to, for him yourself and everyone that loves you, and those that will love you down the road that you have never met yet. I have done a lot of work on my own to free myself of my parents burdens but couldn’t have if I didn’t reach out for help when I needed it. Nobody’s life is as “normal” as portrayed. I can promise you that your war wounds have given you some positives in return. You probably have a great sense of humor and are empathetic to others. I promise you Matt, you have everything you need to get through this and one day you will find yourself standing in your kitchen taking a break from getting your kids breakfast to talk to a younger person that reminds you of what you felt was a hopeless time. It is not, you are almost on the other side. Get in touch with a professional, and work as hard as you can to build your life. A life where the pattern is broken. I believe in you. I apologize for the length, grammar etc. This isn’t my type of thing to comment but I feel like this is giving advice to my younger self. You will forgive in your own way, when you are ready. Take care of yourself and it all will fall into place. Please address the suicide thoughts though. Hugs

    #191825
    [Account Deleted]
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    Your reply truly fills me with hope, I’d really love to move on in life. It’s also great to hear you accidentally forgave your parents, I wish I could do that, haha. Seeking professional help does sound like a good idea, trying on my own hasn’t worked these past few years. Thank you!

    #191865
    Maryrose Mitchell
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    Hi Matt

    Many people struggle with forgiveness. It’s important not to compare yourself to others. We all have different levels of coping skills. Some people can be severely abused and move through life without too much damage. Other people can have what seems like mild to moderate abuse and struggle with severe depression and anxiety. I struggled for many years to forgive my parents and had years of dysfunctional and toxic Behavior myself as a result of harboring resentment. I highly recommend mindfulness and meditation as a way to show loving kindness towards yourself. When you begin to show loving kindness towards yourself what comes from you will be love. The truth is, whatever we have inside shows up on the outside. An easier way to think of it is when you squeeze an orange orange juice comes out. If you have love and compassion towards yourself then you will show it towards others.Therefore it’s important to go inside first and love yourself exactly as you are. This means not feeling guilt of actions in the past or being too hard on yourself. Once you begin to let go of the criticisms you have against yourself the harsh judgements and negative feelings towards others will melt away. The bottom line is every single person is always doing the best they can at any given time. Your parents did the best they could with the level of Consciousness they had at the time just as you are doing the best you can now with the level of Consciousness you have. The beautiful thing about suffering is it does awaken us if we allow it to and we become more conscious. Once we realize that everyone did the best they could depending on their level of consciousness forgiveness is easy and in some cases, we go beyond forgiveness and we can just accept that everything unfolded as it should and the challenges you have are here to awaken  you! I realized after years of abuse that the abuse was a gift to help awaken me and also make me more compassionate towards others. It’s not to say we ask for the suffering but if it presents itself in our lives then we must not resist the message that it is there to deliver. I’m sending you much love in my meditations today! Best maryrose

    #191983
    [Account Deleted]
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    Hello Maryrose

    I like the orange metaphor, I’ll have to remember that. You’re right on the consciousness levels too, I’m sure my parents never intended to be abuse to me, it just happened. I’ll try to focus on that when forgiving them.

    #191997
    Anonymous
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    Dear Matt:

    You wrote in your original post that your mother beat you in the past, that is, she was aggressive toward you. In your most recent post above, you wrote: “I’m sure my parents never intended to be abuse to me, it just happened”-

    this is what a child would like to believe, that the parent never intended to hurt, that the parent’s intentions were always good and loving. It feels safer to believe this.  As adults we keep believing that, but we suffer for believing this. We suffer and our anger remains because it is not true, what we say to ourselves.

    When your mother beat you, screamed at you and displayed such behavior toward you, she was angry. Anger was her emotion and it motivated her to fight, to be aggressive. When angry and acting on that anger like she has done, her intent was to hurt you, to cause you pain.

    This is a difficult concept to accept, but if we reject it, we continue to suffer and continue to feel anger because our anger has not served its purpose yet.

    Let me know what you think, if you would like.

    anita

    #192367
    [Account Deleted]
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    Hello anita

    That is true, I definitely think my mother intended to cause me pain. In fact once she even told me to my face that she couldn’t stop, I was an outlet… I was mainly thinking of my father when I typed that, my mistake for not specifying enough. He has hit me a few times in the past and the psychological damage was nowhere near the scale of my mother, but he was mostly dragged outside to be belted or hit for discipline from his parents as a child, so he has struggled in life. I don’t really find that any excuse to attack me, I just find it slightly easier to forgive him because he is honestly trying to make up for it and is a genuine parent beneath all his pain. My mother, on the other hand, is not.

    Thank you, it is good to look at reality as it is. I will work on accepting that she was trying to hurt me so I can let go sooner.

     

    #192429
    Anonymous
    Guest

    You are welcome, Matt.

    anita

    #192589
    VJ
    Participant

    Hi Matt,

    i.] See to it this way, in reality,  if you were experiencing the same kind of thoughts, feelings, emotions, belief systems, upbringing, state of mind that your mother was experiencing you would have exactly done the same thing too.

    ii.] As per the book (The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom), the 2nd agreement refers that –

    “Don’t take anything personally! Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. They are in a completely different world from the one we live in. When we take something personally, we make the assumption that they know what is in our world, and we try to impose our world on their world. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering. There is a huge amount of freedom that comes to you when you take nothing personally. When we really see other people as they are without taking it personally, we can never be hurt by what they say or do.”

    Yes I can understand you were experiencing physical violence too. Refer back to point no i.

    iii.] Realize deeply that not forgiving is hurting none other than you.

    So you have to do it anyway for you own sake.

    – When you do not forgive a person, it is like you drinking rat poison and expecting the rat to die.

    – Forgiving someone is like setting a prisoner free and then realizing that the prisoner was you.

     

    ~VJ

     

    #192623
    Anonymous
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    Dear Matt:

    I didn’t attend to your post on this thread, the one you posted two days ago. There you wrote: “I definitely think my mother intended to cause me pain. In fact once she even told me to my face that she couldn’t stop, I was an outlet… he (your father) is honestly trying to make up for it and is a  genuine parent beneath all his pain. My mother, on the other hand, is not.”

    You are currently living with your mother. I do not see a possibility for you to no longer be angry at her: she hurt you and never expressed regret. Seeing her every day, hearing her voice, all these automatically trigger memories of past abuse.

    She may still be abusing you in some ways, is she?

    anita

    #192817
    [Account Deleted]
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    To VJ:

    “Realize deeply that not forgiving is hurting none other than you.”

    I think I should repeat this as a mantra or meditate on this, for some reason it wont sink into my soul even though I have it in my head.

    To anita:

    Luckily my mother is not abusing me anymore. She ‘apologized’ by telling me she was sorry, but she never truly took responsibility for what she did and the effect it had on my life (she can be extremely self-centered, but at least I got something). That is completely accurate that seeing her and hearing her constantly makes me feel upset and angry, but I mostly spend my time in my room or with my little brother anyway. The problem is that I unfortunately dropped out of high school because I was a bit suicidal at the time, and I don’t want to leave home because my little brother and father are the only two people I really have.

    It may sound a bit silly, but I do have a plan to develop a video game to earn some money. Indie developer seems like the only job I can do by myself (composing, art, and coding), and I have some experience from when I was a child. I may decide to move away if I ever join a bigger team after gaining more job experience.

    #192825
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Matt:

    Unfortunately, even if your mother no longer beats you up or is expressing aggression against you in the present, the emotional memories of her having done so in the past get triggered again and again by merely seeing her, by hearing her voice. This has been my experience. I don’t think we can prevent this from happening, it happens naturally and automatically. It is a consequence of having been abused.

    For as long as past abused is being triggered by being in the presence of the person who abused us, we can’t do anything but… stay away from that person as much as possible, best, not being in their presence at all. And so I do hope you move out somehow, sometime, soon.

    I don’t know anything about game developing. I hope you research what you intend to do and if it is possible, that you make a practical plan for it to happen.

    anita

    #192907
    VJ
    Participant

    Hi Matt,

    I you want a mantra to meditate without bothering about having it in your head but not sinking in your soul then practice the ancient Hawaiian technique of Ho’oponopono.

    Ho’oponopono can help restore harmony within yourself and with others.

    i] http://www.upliftconnect.com/hawaiian-practice-of-forgiveness/

    ii] http://www.laughteronlineuniversity.com/practice-hooponopono-four-simple-steps/

     

    Best wishes,

    VJ

     

     

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    #193131
    [Account Deleted]
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    To anita:

    Moving out does seem pretty tempting. I’m thinking maybe when my little brother gets a bit older we could get a joint house together or something similar.

    To VJ:

    That Ho’oponopono mantra seems really interesting, but I’m a bit confused on how it works. Am I apologizing to myself for not being able to forgive? I’ve tried repeating it a few times and I feel something, but will it help me forgive my mother?

    #193237
    VJ
    Participant

    Hi Matt,

    Each of your questions are very well explained and answered in both the above links so I suggest to go through the entire article.

    At the same time do not allow the analytical egoic mind to ask you questions whether it will work or not. Simply do the practice and the rest will follow.

     

    Regards,

    VJ

     

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