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February 3, 2018 at 10:30 am #190485AnonymousGuest
Dear Maria:
The friends that tell you that you are lucky not being in a committed relationship, I guess they are not happy in their relationships. So the strategy you can develop for yourself should be aimed at a relationship where you will be happy. One principle in that strategy is that you allow the man to feel whatever he feels and that he lets you feel whatever you feel. No… Feelings Police.
And so, when a potential partner doesn’t say the exact words you need to hear, you don’t fall apart.
There is much more to the strategy I am suggesting you develop. It will require practice, starting small, practicing such things as assertiveness and personal responsibility.
I need to get away from the computer soon for about seventeen hours. If you would like to share your ideas about such a strategy, please do. There are also resources on the subject, lots of books and such about relationships. Some of those resources may be helpful to you. I have nothing specific to suggest.
If you reply to me, I will reply again, when I am back.
anita
February 4, 2018 at 5:29 am #190579MariaParticipantI was kinda feeling that way about that guy before deciding to open up. And I feel uncomfortable with the way it’s taken. I get myself searching the internet reasons why he stopped texting, how do kinda man act towards love, and all of the answers point to the is not that into you” but I wanna believe there is still a possibility. But at the same time,time I feel fear of getting stuck to an idea that maybe won’t work.
What I know is that I’m still attached and wanna crazily get into a relationship.
I read a lot about law of attraction, positive thoughts and try to work it on myself. But once my therapist said I have this problem of letting myself be sucked by illusion sometimes and I want things to get real. I want this love I so dream about to come truem but I still do not know how to..
Would you have some titles you could recommend?
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February 4, 2018 at 5:50 am #190585AnonymousGuestDear Maria:
I don’t have titles. I haven’t read books and such for such a long time.
You searched the internet for reasons why he stopped texting. The source of information on why he stopped texting is him, not the internet. You can ask him, if you could bring yourself to be not too emotional and if he feels comfortable telling you the truth. Because of his experience with you getting so upset when he told you that he may not feel exactly like you did, he may not feel comfortable communicating honestly with you.
I don’t have books to recommend to you, but I will probably have something to recommend to you if you give me more information: can you tell me more about what your therapist meant when she/ he said that you let yourself be sucked by illusion? What is that love that you dream about: how does it look like, sound like, feel like?
anita
February 4, 2018 at 3:56 pm #190699MariaParticipantThe thing about illusion that my therapist days is that I prefer to believe in the situation I make up in my mind or things I read online instead of doing just like you said too “asking him” but I’m still hurt by what he said that day, it’s like I couldn’t accept he doesn’t like me
Today I went to the mall with my dad and younger sister and saw many couples walking hand in hand and just couldn’t ignore them for really wanting to be a part of that “walk hand in hand”. I try to stay positive but at times it is a little hard.
He liked two posts of mine today… And published something on his. I thought of liking it too but I saw that an acquaintance of his (girl) liked it. So I already got angry.
February 4, 2018 at 4:08 pm #190701MariaParticipantAnd I really don’t know what to do to put my life back on track. I wish it was just like an actor in a movie “follow the script”
February 5, 2018 at 4:54 am #190749AnonymousGuestDear Maria:
You wrote that you couldn’t accept that he doesn’t like you, but he did like you and does like you, just not the same way you want him to like you.
Everyone wants to be liked. I want to be liked, even by people I don’t like. As a matter of fact, if someone likes me, I automatically like them too, somewhat at least.
But no one will like me exactly the same way I want them to like me, all of the time, continuously, always the same liking of me. Just as I don’t like others always, continuously.
Watch for your all-or-nothing thinking and expectation. By pursuing the all, you end up with nothing. Try to find satisfaction with part of, some of what you want.
Back to the FWB history, will you tell me how that was for you, how did it benefit you and how did it not benefit you, what about it didn’t work for you?
anita
February 5, 2018 at 4:55 am #190751AnonymousGuest* didn’t reflect under Topics
February 5, 2018 at 8:04 am #190805MariaParticipantYeah, yeah.
I know he likes me, other guys I’ve hung up with have stopped talking to me at the point they realised I was more into that than them. This one no, he keeps talking to me when I reach out to him, he keeps following me on social medias, today he tagged me on a post. I confess today I am feeling well. I sent him a goodnight message yestarday round 11 p.m. and he answered to it, wishing a goodnight and good morning in advance (which I read and replied today), a few minutes later, he tagged me.
As I told you, I had never been in a real relationship, but with him, I could see something working, some routine. From our third date on, we would meet at least once a week after work or on weekends. The first time we spent the night together was my first sleep over with a guy (up to that moment I would spend the afternoon/evening out but never the whole night until next morning) and you know, sleeping by his side and waking up with him was so beautiful. I remember waking up before him, looking at him sleeping and he must have heard me and woke up, looked at me and whispered “good morning” and kissed me. Then he went to the hall to smoke and I sat on his legs and put my arm over his shoulder. And it was amazing, just amazing, I wish I could spend all my days like this.
On FWB matter, well… When I was younger, I wouldn’t mind whether I would hang out with someone or not. I was more introvert and preferred to spend the time at home reading books and writing. Actually, up to my 15 I had only kissed one guy. After that, I became friends with a girl that enjoyed reading a lot of books and she kinda influenced me on being just like her. I started reading Jane Austen and became a huge fan of her characters, mainly the main ones, that are very feminist at the point of saying “I need no man”, and I got like “I need no man” as well.
But when I joined a theater course, I started realizing how much of my time I had wasted just on reading books and writing, people would talk about parties, and kissing, and having sex, and I was still a virgin. It made me feel ashamed, but at the same time I had spent so long without even kissing that all I could think was “I’m ugly. No one will ever be interested in me…”, but some of the boys in my theater group had tried something, but my selfsteem was so low, I couldn’t realize they were actually interested. One of them, I did realize, but I couldn’t picture myself kissing him, so I let this opportunity pass.
Some years later, at another theater course, I was at a party with some people and one mutual friend started talking to me, we were a little high and we ended up kissing. After years, that was the second boy I was kissing ever. While we were kissing, I was thinking “OMG I remember how to kiss. OMG he got some interest in me.” And it was cool. I tried talking to him later but he made it clean he was just into me on that day. Then I realized “Ok, someone can be interested in me just for a day, for a moment”. But it increased my selfsteem. At that time, btw, I was already sick of still being a virgin. So I put in my mind “I need to meet someone I can finally have my first experience with”, so I downloaded an app, started talking to some guys, met one of them, we met once just to know each other, on the second time, it was finally to get it done.
It was good. At that time, it was wonderful, but today, when I remember it is like “it was good, but I’ve been through better ones”. Anyway, with this guy I first had sex with, there was nothing settled. We would talk day in day out. Spend some days without talking. But after a month without seeing each other, I asked him (trough whatsapp) if he wouldn’t be interested in meeting again? And he started meeting twice a month after that, my third experience with a guy, and I started getting some delight in it. Finally kissing, holding hands, hugging in public (with an observation: when it was in a public place where we would hardly meet someone he knows, once we went to a mall around his house, he didn’t allow me to hold his hand).
But after seven months, I was already into it. More than I could control. I would spend evenings crying because I somehow knew it wasn’t a real relationship. He realized it and started ignoring me. It took me months to finally get over him. After that, a guy in my job asked me out and we did. He said he was interested in me, he was kinda in love with me, that he had never liked a girl like he felt he liked me, but the guy was a trainee, 19 years-old. We hung out four days and most of the time we would spend kissing, because there was no talk between us. I would say something and he would come up with something entirely different. I thought he was just like me, a young boy wanting to have his first experience, because we had set to go to a motel but one day before, my mom had told me she got fired and that got me down. I told him “Boy, I don’t feel like hanging out tomorrow for this reason” and he started “You’re making this up because you don’t wanna see me. I was so excited about seeing you. I’m very disappointed” and now it was my time to ignore someone.
After that, again, I met another guy, this time on Tinder. We spent two weeks talking until he said “my family is gonna be out for a month, do you feel like coming over my place?”, I went and he tried to have sex, but I was on my period, so, we just ate some pizza and said goodbye. This one never showed any interest but in having sex. We met three times. This first one that didn’t work, and two other times, both to have sex.
And finally, we got to this one. We started talking in November. And, as I said, with him, I could see some routine. I day by day life. And with this guy there was actually a real talk. We could talk about any and everything. He is so similar to me, in matters of sense of humor, personality. We would talk about movies, music, characters, make fun at each other. He wouldn’t mind walking hand in hand with me, kissing, holding, at times he would ask me for a kiss. He would send random stuff on whatsapp. There was a moment when we were still cool that I thought “OMG we’re like boy and girlfriend”. And there was always something to talk. Once we met and I forgot he had told me something and asked about it, later on that day he said “I thought you were a little distant today because you asked me stuff I had already told you”, he would name his friends (something others wouldn’t do, it was always “a friend of mine”), this one know “Oh, once I pretended I had a fight with Carl and everyone was like “WTF happened? You are friends since you were babies!!”” or “My friend Daniel who lives downtown”. He asked “What if I called you to hang out with my friends?” but this day hasn’t come.
Anyway, I had some high expectations with him, indeed. That’s why I feel disappointed. It is like “it doesn’t make sense. There must be a missing piece in this puzzle”.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 9 months ago by Maria.
February 5, 2018 at 8:22 am #190819MariaParticipantAfter this one I am falling for, there was another one, on the last weekend of 2017. I went to this night club with a friend and at that night, I met a guy, we got to spend the night together. But it was just because I was feeling like hooking up before the turn of the year. This guy is trying to see me again, but all he calls me is “hottie” “you’re so delicious” and apart from that night we spent together, I have no interest in seeing him again.
There were some other two boys that tried talking to me (both on Tinder) but … There are not people I would say “Oh. I feel so excited about knowing more of you. Let’s talk. Let’s meet.” No. All I think about is “My God. I want so much to meet L again.” There is a voice inside of me that insists upon saying “Wait. Calm down”. But I feel his absence so much and at work I have to deal with people who are dating, engaged, married and all I think is “I so wish it was me and my husband.” Me and my husband, when would I ever think of saying that? I couldn’t picture myself getting married and today this is the thing I want the most. I know I have no money to afford a wedding or a life by myself but even so, I want this to happen.
February 5, 2018 at 8:31 am #190825AnonymousGuestDear Maria:
From your sharing, this guy reads to me like a decent guy and that is promising, to me, in my thinking. That guy before, who wouldn’t hold hands when in a mall where he may meet his friends, not wanting his friends to see him holding hands with you (while being okay about it when in a place not likely to be seen by his friends), that is insulting, isn’t it?
On the other hand, this guy is okay with being seen by his friends holding hands with you and showing affection. I like that. It is decent and promising.
You mentioned the “missing piece in this puzzle”. I think that the missing piece is, for you (and correct me if I am wrong) is the Fantasy Piece. For as long as you wait for the fantasy piece to happen before you proceed, you will be waiting and waiting until the opportunity with this guy fades.
Fantasy is expecting him to say exactly what you need him to say, well, almost exactly. Unlike in a script for a play, you can’t decide how a conversation is going to take place, you say… he says… you say, and so on. Got to be open to … well, to real life.
Reads to me that he likes me. He is probably anxious too, at times, like you. He is probably lonely too at times, like you. He probably feels confused and doesn’t know what to say or do too, like you.
My suggestion is to get to know him, talk, share and listen to him. Little by little. Don’t adhere to a script.
anita
February 5, 2018 at 8:32 am #190827AnonymousGuest* didn’t reflect under Topics
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