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  • #125225
    janet
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    So after leaving my bf of 4 years, as usual we can’t seem to keep away from each other. After the first month of arguing with each other and taking out our anger over it all we have come back down to our “senses” and have been talking again like friends the past month. He says he still loves me and misses me. I’m trying my best to just keep calm when we talk and not show emotion but it’s hard. He had said he forgave me for everything but so far twice now he has “attacked” me over our Skype calls. The first was two weeks ago, it was so horrible. I was crying pretty bad and the whole time I kept asking myself in my head why don’t I just hang up? He was ranting at me over the past and I tried to understand that I know he’s still angry and not ready to heal yet. So far to date I have not shown him any of that anger like I did before. aside from that incident which was over Christmas break we were getting along so well and this past week he has hardly contacted me at all. I sent a video message saying it would be nice if he would confirm what we are doing. Either working toward a relationship or not because I need to feel more from him if we are. He didn’t like that and clarified we are not together and yes we are working towards something but that I am a very angry person and that I need help. He said that he doesn’t want an angry person in his life. And “get my life together and then we will talk about us”. Well, without making this a book, first yes I’m angry because he broke every promise he made me. I did my best to communicate with him but I guess my needs went that important. And clearly I continue to be right because the msg I sent him saying I needed “more” pissed him off. And I watched it several times. I was neither angry or demanding. How the hell does one say I need attention? Anyway tonight I had mentioned coming to visit him and he kinda went at it again. First of all he said what would be the point of a visit? Well that alone I was just angry over. (Should I not be I mean really?) Then he said if I wanna visit I have to figure it out because yeah it’s one sided. As in he isn’t going to visit me or help me come to visit him. then he Goes on about how angry I am, and I need help and that he’s not saying it’s all my fault and in the end he said he’s just trying to help. I just know I’m suppose to walk away. I gave the guy for years and he just in my opinion made excuses not to move in together among other things. He knows he upset me and I’m sure now he won’t talk to me for at least a day because I know he feels upset at himself though he never admits it. And he will probably even go buy me something tomorrow and send it or I’m betting he might even decide to change his mind on me visiting. It’s his M.O. I just wish I didn’t love him so much or know all the good sides to him, because yes there are some as everyone has good. But I’m always looking at the good in people. And that’s a fault of mine at times. 🙁

    #125244
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear janet:

    In your very first thread here, 2.5 years into the relationship with this man, there was already enough “chaos and turmoil” (your words there) to last a lifetime. But here we are 4 years into the relationship and the chaos and turmoil continues. Reading your writing is entertaining; you do have a sense of humor that I appreciate.

    From my reading of your posts, it seems to me like you are not the easiest woman to get along with, easily triggered, and it seems to me that he is a good match to you in the triggered department. So you trigger each other and it is working for the continuation of the same-old-same-old. There is a payoff for the two of you, keeping this chaos going.

    If you agree, what do you think is your payoff and what is his payoff?

    anita

    #125280
    janet
    Participant

    Thanks Anita

    Yes I guess at times I’m difficult. I expect a lot but especially I hold people to their word. He didn’t come through on many things and he is also very difficult. And yes easily triggered. I don’t know what the payoff will be. when we are not angry we get along so good. But he can literally in a second make me feel so small and I suppose if I didn’t take it as anything personal I would fare better, but at the core how can u treat someone you love that way? I’ve been thinking a lot and I just think I have to let go. I know in time it will get easier. I just have to find a support group because it’s hard alone.

    #125301
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear janet:

    If at times he is abusive, then by all means, call it quit. Feel free to post here on your thread and I will be that supportive respondent to cheer you along the way.

    anita

    #125372
    janet
    Participant

    Well there was a turn tonight. He text me and said that he doesn’t want the relationship anymore. I tried to reply “ok” and let it go, knowing full well if I said anything at all it would be chaos. But of course I then open my mouth. I wasn’t angry, I didn’t use foul language or say mean and horrible things. Which USUALLY I would go off the deep end saying your this and that and f u and this and that ect. I absolutely kept my cool. Of course I was upset though. I spent almost 2 hrs back n forth with him trying to figure out why he led me on to only now pull the plug. Of course he said he didn’t lead me on. I screenshot his text where he said we are working at a relationship but taking it slow. Well I can’t change his mind and why should I try to. I’m seriously damaged. He has done so much shitty stuff to me, physically abused me, cheated on me, broke my property. But right now he’s hung up on the fact that I called him out the last day we fought. I spilled a secret in front of the person we were fighting in front of. Because right before that he had physically attacked me and I was just at my end. I just couldn’t take his abuse and I “retaliated” I knew the second I said it I wanted to take it back. And he feels he can’t ever trust me now because of that. We are all different ppl with different tolerance and I choose to forgive him knowing the things he did to me were out of anger and not intentional. Not that there’s any excuse, but in the end it feels so unfair. I told him he isn’t giving me the chance to show him how I’m progressing. But this is his typical behavior. I confront him with facts and truth and he does not give a response. He got crueler and crueler by the text and I finally called and said why are you being exactly the person you claim I have been (angry person) and not looking at the now instead of the past? Especially after you said you forgave for it all and now he brings it up and throws it in my face. And his response is that’s what I did to him. So I say again ok so then how is it ok for you to be like that now? That doesn’t solve it and essentially he has the problem then not me. He always has touted and I mean touted not just to me but everybody how he is a “fair man” and his famous line is “present me with a logical argument and I will have no choice but to respond”. And when the shit hits the fan he is non of that. So I’m glad he called it off. I’m sad too. I stupidly still love and believe in him. Unlike him I know and believe he has a possible illness. I try to be compassionate, but he doesn’t show the same. And I admit I have a problem and am even seeking out help. Well in the end I know I will be better. And once I am better I will look back and know that the end of us was the best part of us. Even as hard as it is to face right now. Thank you for reading 🙂

    #125376
    Poppyxo
    Participant

    Hi Janet,
    I empathize completely with your situation, as I’m going through one similar.

    You need to take a look at some of the things he has done to you, physically abused you, cheated on you and broke your property? Would you do that to someone you loved? You also said “Because right before that he had physically attacked me and I was just at my end. I just couldn’t take his abuse and I “retaliated” I knew the second I said it I wanted to take it back. And he feels he can’t ever trust me now because of that.” So he is punishing you for something you’ve done, even though he’s done much worse? I’m not saying your retaliation is right, because it’s not, it makes you as bad as him and two wrongs don’t make a right, we all know that. You can’t shout at someone for doing something but then doing the same or equal.

    This relationship doesn’t appear healthy and I know how hard it is to move on, you will have days of absolute nightmare, but you need to keep in mind how he has treated you & from reading your words it doesn’t seem nice at all. You sound like me in that you people please and want the best for everyone else but you put yourself second – what does it say about you when you let someone disrespect you in such a way? It says to me “hurt me, treat me like crap, do your worst, I’ll still be here” You need to work on building your self-esteem, work on loving and respecting yourself and in time you will realise that this man isn’t someone that deserves you – but you also need to do some work on that anger. I’ve been very angry in the past & it’s down to me not communicating how I feel or communicating how I feel but not being listened too or getting my needs met – it sounds like this is happening to you also.
    You also need to own the fact that you have allowed these things to happen to you, and until you put your foot down and put a stop to allowing these things, they will continue to happen, with this man or any other man. Trust me, I’ve been 10 years in the same relationships patterns through this same situation.

    #125435
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear janet:

    This relationship is so over that it is over even if it is not. Even if you communicate for the next ten years, go back and forth, it is over and has been over for a long time. This is my understanding of it. Put it another way, it is so broken that all you do when you are back together, at best, is glue a couple of pieces together, but the other 158 pieces are still shattered and dispersed and nowhere to be found, so you can’t make a vase out of the couple pieces.

    Like I wrote to you recently, you are entertaining, the way you tell an account, humorous enough to make a good relationship very enjoyable, for you and for the man. Only this relationship is past the humor phase.

    anita

    #125462
    janet
    Participant

    Thanks for everyone’s views and replies. What I need now is to know how to cope everyday. Today has been such a struggle. I have to start my recovery essentially all over because he led me on. I keep repeating to myself to remember the facts. Those things he did which were mean, and that I won’t ever change that and that I left him for a reason. But still it’s hard. I feel like I’m a really sane person with a side of insanity. I know I’m smart, I know I deserve better, I know I should move on. I can’t even fathom any relationship right now even just a social one. I am at a point I never thought I’d be which is full of anxiety and fear. I was always so outgoing and full of life. Believed in people and had an open heart. To my own demise in a way. I’m trying not to let this ruin my view of love and compassion. But I’m really on the cusp of not giving a shit to be blunt. To just stay alone and not care for ppl in general almost. truthfully, people have approached me lately at random you know ppl will just strike up convo with u in a store about something and I shy away, I feel timid and sometimes it takes everything I have in my body not to break down in tears and loose it. I’ve NEVER been like this. I apologize if I am rambling or abusing the board or idk but I don’t have any friends at all. Another thing he helped make a reality. I have not a soul to talk to. So thank you very much all for listening and I really appreciate it.

    #125760
    janet
    Participant

    Hello

    I have another update. It gets bad before better. I called him after two days silence. (Tue night) I made it worse because I tried to plead for him to help me understand since it didn’t make sense. In the end I asked him haven’t you noticed the progress I made? He said yes. Then I asked him do you still love me. And he said yes. Well I was so angry I just said thank you and hung up. As if to say I proved my point bye. And then I felt like an ass for that. And I started to see and realize a bit what he says about me that’s wrong. And then tonight I decided what I needed to do. I wrote him a thank you letter. As I wrote it I realized all the things he has done for me and how ungrateful and selfish I must have been. I concentrated on the thank you, and apologizing for the wrong that I did and caused. I didn’t say anything about what he did wrong or expecting him to do the same in return. I didn’t criticize or blame him at all. In an effort to truly heal myself and be able to move forward is why I did this. It was the right thing to do. And it opened my eyes a lot. I know now that no matter what I change about myself, it isn’t likely he will follow suit. And that we can still love each other and not be together. That was the hardest part for me to accept. Going forward I have an even better understanding of what I need to accomplish for self improvement and growth. And I know (always have) that after I am healed and a better person, that he won’t be relevant to my life anymore. I will outgrow him. I have a business I am trying to grow and I need to focus on that and accomplish my goals for me. I never understood how that worked. You know like in the movies when couples split up cuz their like my path is different and goals are different. To me it was always illogical. Like you love each other why can’t you get a job in the town she does or whatever the example is. But until it happens to you it isn’t that simple. I feel better. A wieght lifted. Now I only hope I can go forward and be strong.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by janet.
    #125768
    Poppyxo
    Participant

    Hi Janet,

    Thanks for this, it sounded like myself!

    There are lots of articles on here that will help you to heal, grow and develop yourself. There’s a lot on the internet also 🙂

    Just remember when feelings come up, don’t ignore them, accept them and go through them, do not ignore them, what you resist will persist! 🙂

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