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  • #55080
    tb97249
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    It has been more than a year since the incident which thrust me into the well of guilt and anger.

    I am easily influenced by the opinions of other people when those opinions point out my faults. I readily agree with them even if it may not have been my fault, but I cannot believe a statement which says ‘this may not have been my fault’. For any perceived or real fault of my own, I feel the need to be destructive to myself and my life. I think this will bring balance to the world by bringing justice, even if that requires destruction of and punishment to myself.

    I have a hard time believing positive thoughts – the mind rejects them quickly as they all seem false and embarrassing to it. I can realize that my mind grasps at statements which are particularly sarcastic towards me or which find faults with me. Such words get carved in my mind, and it then continues to remember and repeat them for years, inflicting me every time with guilt and anger. It replays the incidents with responses that I could have given at that time but could not.

    Entire days are consumed, unless I work. The weekends are the most painful – it adds to that pain to see moment after moment being laid to waste by the mind’s replaying those perceived or real attacks of words on me. Everywhere I go, the mind never detaches itself from these scenes – if nothing else, it finds more fuel from the outside world to add into this fire – a missed opportunity, a tiny mistake, an overreaction. Comparisons with other people have become the norm; seeing their successes and carefree life, believing that whatever their troubles are, at least their minds are not inflicted with the pain that is my burden, drives me deep into sadness.

    My mind does not quieten down; I have headaches and have trouble sleeping because of the restlessness. I am desperate for a single moment where my mind is relaxed, but the negative feelings are now etched strongly in the psyche, and their momentum, as strong as that of a speeding train, flings away any hints of positivity encountered.

    The only way I see to release myself from the sick mind is to end the life. I want to live, but the life must end if I want it to be free from the incessant chatter of the sick mind. Please help.

    #55092
    Danger
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    Woah man Woah!!!
    You are really in need of some advice and there is this person I know whom you can trust whole-heartedly and that person is YOU man YOU!!!
    From your posts I can see that you are way too much thinking about other people opinion.(i know it’s hard with always surrounded by people to not get influenced by their words)
    Ask yourself man :”Were you born this way?”. If yes then go ahead and live your life the way it is right now but if the answer is NO then you got some work to do dude!!!
    And the painful and lonely weekends you mention, yaa i can relate to that and what i have found is that like we are busy in our heads, other people too are busy in their own heads with their own problems. They ain’t got time to think for that.
    Now, people may recommend you meditation and stuff and yaa that really works for them. GREAT!!!but not for me!!!
    So here is the wikipedia page for VICTIM MENTALITY that you are having. Please don’t take it offensely because I myself have that and you can conquer it too!!!Good luck
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality
    And here’s the google search:
    https://www.google.com.np/?gws_rd=cr&ei=1BtVU8ClHIeMrQe8hIHQBA#q=victim+mentality
    Woah i am really laughing as i can see someone i can really relate to!!!

    #55138
    Matt
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    Tb,

    I’m sorry for your downward cycles, and can understand how difficult the mind can be sometimes. When we come upon negative seeming criticism, we often make one of two mistakes. First, we might feel unreasonably bad that we made a mistake, feel guilt, shame, fear and all that, which clouds our ability to learn from it. Said differently, sometimes we don’t process “oops, darn it” very well. The other mistake we make is when we falsely question our own truth, such as feeling bad for a mistake we didn’t make, but someone else tells us we did. Said differently, sometimes we don’t process other people’s delusions, accusations, judgment (and so forth) very well. Their oops, our oops, whatever, learn, move on. A few things came to heart as I read your words.

    Consider that we are bound to make tons of mistakes as we learn to find balance, learn to become more skillful with ourselves and the outside world. We stub our toe, ouch, and are left with some painful emotions. As those come up, consider that its like a little wound on your foot… smarting, confusing, vibrant. To seek balance, right now you seem to try to stub your other toe. What a silly thing to do!

    Instead, we can learn to breathe through our emotions, see their empty quality, and let them go. Said differently, you’re just having a bad reaction to failure, there is no purpose or drive behind those emotions aside from the habit you’re in. Ouch, blame, self beating, self beating, another ouch, etc.

    Consider a different approach. When we stub our toe, we can reach out and soothe it. We don’t blame our foot, the couch we kicked, the universe. Just reach out, soothe it, check for damage, move on. Emotionally its the same. “Mistake!” comes up, real or accused, and the pain comes up. Take a minute, do some breathing, and let the extra bits go. Mistake again, OK, what next. Then, if you can see what went wrong, try to make it right if you can. If you don’t see an error, consider coming back with curiosity. “OK, I’m trying to learn, but don’t see an error… what do you see?” If we can remain open to the feedback, it can quickly become obvious to us whats going on. Either we see the error, learn something new (hurray) or we see their error, and learn something new (hurray). We don’t even have to try to make them see it, we can just let it go and move on.

    This helps us grow our authentic humility, as we learn that we’re learning. Said differently, consider that we’re all people learning how to be people, how to become skillful, how to find balance, and so forth. When we feel bad for our mistakes, let it drag us under, it can quickly appear hopeless. No matter how much we try to be perfect, there is always another test around the corner that we fear we’ll fail, or do fail.

    The good news is it doesn’t take perfection, rather it just takes noble effort… which the painfulness is there to motivate. Said differently, suffering creates the ickyness that gets us to jump out of imbalanced patterns. So we naturally learn over time, the painfulness diminishes as we learn to be humble. “What is there to learn here? OK, I’ll try to figure it out.” Why bother with guilt? We’re already giving it our best!

    Finally, consider that sometimes our past abuses give us a pair of shades that cover our eyes. Our inner light becomes dim from our wounds, and the joy around us fades, looks icky, looks hopeless. Comparisons, lost opportunities, fear, mess, etc. Its up to us to take off those glasses. We can do this through self nurturing, especially spending time wishing ourselves and others happiness. Buddha taught that metta (loving friendship) helps the mind become smooth and concentrated, peaceful. It doesn’t try to get in the way as much, doesn’t put the sunglasses on, and we can simply see the beauty around and within us. This opens up the space very directly around all those “mistakes” or “comparisons” and what not. Consider “Sharon Salzburg guided metta meditation” on YouTube, if interested. And I hope you’re interested, because it will make it all a lot easier. 🙂

    Namaste, dear friend, may your cycles unfurl into lessons, and the lessons into peace.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #55139
    Matt
    Participant

    Danger,

    Dig the new style, its clear the lesson was taken to heart, even while you managed to keep your zest! Thank you for the hard work you’ve been doing, it shows.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #55177
    tb97249
    Participant

    Thanks Danger. I did try to change the thinking a bit and felt a tiny bit good. There are 3 stages in which I usually am (1) Free from the mental burden (2) about to take up the burden and (3) caught with the burden. Many a times, the victim mentality as described takes over and I slip from (1) to (2) to (3) and once in stage (3), it requires a lot of effort and more importantly time to get out of the the stage. I do try to stop myself but sometimes the mind says ‘you did make the mistake’ and so it spirals down with the justification of the mistake as a proof that that is how things should be.

    #55179
    tb97249
    Participant

    Thanks Matt. I see that letting go and metta are the central theme around learning from mistakes – ours or theirs, and seeing things clearly.

    Letting go is an idea which I do not fully understand. To get out of the stuck feelings, I usually have to divert my mind for a long time towards something which is effortlessly interesting – it looks like the mind is trying to find something else to attach to which is not painful. If I put in conscious effort to divert the mind, it keeps coming back to the very things which I am trying to let go. The more I try to let go, the more effort I put in and it is exhausting. I guess this is not really how letting go works. There seems to be something deep and non-verbal in the mind which justifies attachment instead of letting go.

    I admit to having very little metta at this stage within me for myself and others. Will consider the guided meditation from Sharon Salzburg.

    #55198
    GMPete
    Participant

    Hi Tb,
    This is a simple 3 minute ‘breathing space’ cultivation that some people find helpful.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TuYjmyN7qDA

    Warmest best wishes to you on your path.

    #55929
    BenzRabbit
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