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    Brooke
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    Hi Everyone,

    First I will say this is my first post here, I’m new to posting here but have found this site very helpful in my current healing journey. I came to the realization early this year that my mother has Borderline Personality Disorder and have made steps to reduce/eliminate contact with her over time because sadly, she is an emotional drain on me, increases my anxiety and depression that I’m trying so hard to manage right now, and twists facts and sometimes outright lies to reinforce her views. It’s sad and I’m coming to terms with this. I’ve been seeing a therapist regularly for about 5 months and really learning a lot about healthy boundaries and relationships.

    However, this post is about my current relationship. I’m 25 and my boyfriend is 27 and we have been dating for about 7 months now. We met in February, a few months after I moved and broke up with my ex boyfriend of 3 years who I lived with. I will admit there wasn’t much time between the two, but that relationship was over long before it was over (for me anyway) and I gave myself ample opportunities to date around and be choosy. My point is that my current boyfriend wasn’t chosen by me out of a lack of options; I was very picky for a while.

    My boyfriend is admittedly emotionally closed off. His family does not address emotions at all. I think this comes from his mother’s past, as she was abused during childhood by her alcoholic father. My boyfriend doesn’t think she ever sought therapy to address the undeniable baggage she may have from this. As a result, he is his with a double-whammy: he is a man living in a society that expects men to be stoic and out of touch emotionally, AND he was raised in an emotionally unavailable family. He has told me that his being closed off has been an issue in past relationships. He talks about potential therapy sometimes and even asks me about my sessions, but I won’t nag him to go. He has to want it.

    Anyway, the current issue is that I’ve been feeling very lonely and sad in our relationship. He is very busy – working full time and in an accelerated MBA program that started this summer. He is very ambitious and his mind is always racing and wired for multitasking. I’ll be honest, I believe he struggles with anxiety related issues just as I do. He can’t sit still, has trouble sleeping, has weird body pains sometimes, etc. Same presentation as my anxiety/depression.

    In contrast to my very busy man, I’m progressively lightening my load at the moment as I focus on my emotional life and my healing from childhood trauma and abuse. It’s exhausting work. I used to work two jobs but now I am focusing on just the one full-time job. My mind is not always racing anymore and I am concentrating on being present, which I’ll admit is a challenge but I’m getting better at it.

    When my boyfriend and I are together, I feel this obvious disconnect. He is often distracted or when we are discussing interesting topics, he will be into explaining his thought, then I’ll say something to add to it and the conversation will all of a sudden drop and he won’t respond. When we spend nights together, he is distracted by a lot of things – work emails, homework (which I’m fine with as I see the value in this and understand), social media, messaging, internet videos, etc. It’s like he cannot just “be” in the moment with me and I desperately crave this connection. I don’t know what to talk to him about anymore and we have awkward silences. This distance is very painful for me.

    Last week we had a serious conversation about this, during which he told me his emotional distance has been a problem in relationships in the past. I think that he expects me to break up with him eventually over this as I suspect this may have ended past relationships as well. I told him that I feel lonely and sad sometimes when we are together, because all I want is to bond with him and talk, feel connected, but it feels impossible when he’s distracted with other things. He made an effort, wrote me a sweet note saying he appreciates me and he agrees that I deserve better and he’ll work at it, and even planned a nice date for us this weekend. However, I still notice a palpable disconnect in the little, everyday moments.

    I’m not sure how to approach this. I do like him, but I know that I need to take care of myself first and foremost (which I have trouble with) and pay attention to these feelings. I’m just at a loss here. Any help would be really appreciated.

    #113306
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Brooke:

    Congratulations for taking on the healing process, for attending therapy for the last five months, for reducing or eliminating contact with your mother, and for considering your well being in the context of your current relationship.

    My mother too was BPD and Histrionic (a combination of both) and I finally cut all contact with her over three years ago. I considered it before, decades before and finally did it. It was necessary for my healing and I wish I did it way, way earlier, your age or before.

    Of course, after cutting contact with her I still had to deal with the mother in between my ears, that is the mental entity of her, and I will be glad to share about this or any other part of my healing with you, if you ask, later on.

    Regarding your relationship of seven months. Reads like indeed he suffers from anxiety and deals with it the best he can: multitasking, distracting, and exhausting himself. It is when he is still, at the moment, that he feels the anxiety most acutely, so he avoids those moments.

    A sitting meditation for a restless, anxious person, is extremely difficult for this reason: the anxiety is heightened when one sits still. This is why a Moving Meditation is best: if you could involve him in such, there are guided meditations instructing the person to perform deliberate, simple, slow movements that slow the brain. Tai Chi routine of such slow motion, deliberate movements (mimicking martial art fights, in slow motion) are very helpful. I wonder if such an experiment, the two of you doing something like that, will give him a new experience of that quieting of the mind, and he may want more of that!

    I think that soon it will be time for you to decide if this can be a Win-Win relationship, win for you and for him. Maybe you can help each other, since you have common challenges. If you can help each other, this can be a very successful relationship.

    anita

    #113340
    Brooke
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thanks so much for your response and I do look forward to sharing more about my BPD mom in the future. It is comforting to know I’m not alone in this experience.

    Regarding my boyfriend, we just had another conversation. I tried to focus on the fact that conversation seems strained or awkward sometimes and I feel like I don’t really know him. Sadly this turned into a mild argument that proved not too useful. We talked and he said that he’s always thinking about the next thing because he’s driven, the next few years he’s going to be very busy and focused, and he’s constantly thinking about the world, checking the news in the morning, etc. and that’s how he is. My response was that it feels as though he’s so focused on the world yet he’s neglecting the one person he should be most intimate with. This didn’t accomplish anything.

    I don’t know how to articulate my needs because as someone raised by a BPD mother you can guess I have a hard time paying attention to my emotions and sticking up for myself. So after a few minutes the conversation got out of hand and I lost my focus, if that makes sense.

    I tried to express to him that I’d like him to be more open with me. He’s so closed off and he knows he doesn’t share much about himself. I don’t see any effort on that end. I’m devastated. He keeps going back to the fact that he’s very busy with school and it’s challenging to find free time yet my point is that open communication about his challenges is important if for nothing else than for me to understand what he is dealing with. He doesn’t share this stuff with me.

    I’m devastated.

    I don’t want to break up with him, but I hate this dynamic of me carrying the emotional weight in this relationship and it is not good for my mental health. I just want to feel loved, have his attention, etc.

    #113369
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Brooke:

    Reads to me like he is not the right guy for you. You need a man who is .. available to you. He is not available. He is otherwise occupied and he told you that he indeed intends to remain otherwise occupied for years to come.

    I think you need a calmer man who has the time and the focus to be with you, to pay attention to you. You wrote last: ” I hate this dynamic of me carrying the emotional weight in this relationship and it is not good for my mental health.”

    This is very significant, what you wrote: this is “not good for my mental health”- you’ve been doing lots of work to heal in the last five months. Stay on the healing path. This relationship is taking you off the healing path.

    His focus is elsewhere, and you are about to lose focus yourself. Your focus should be on your mental health and nothing and no one should compromise it.

    anita

    #113392
    XenopusTex
    Participant

    I have work/life balance issues myself. However, isn’t it better that your boyfriend is working on improving himself? Lot worse things he could be doing.

    #113587
    Brooke
    Participant

    As an update, we talked calmly and openly last night. I told him that I think he does a lot of things that come off as uncaring and I’m not sure he’s aware of it. He told me that he is not good at making me feel like I’m a priority, but I am to him.

    Believe it or not, he said that he thinks he would benefit from therapy. He didn’t say he would go, but he did agree to come with me to one of my sessions just as an observer, to see what it’s like. I am so grateful for that as I know that is probably terrifying for him.

    So after talking last night, we agreed to:

    1) Try to work things out and communicate more openly
    2) Spend more nights at my apartment (I just flat out told him I want that and he agreed)
    3) Bring him to one of my therapy sessions as an observer
    4) Talk about issues as they arise; I agreed to bring up disrespect as it happens so we can address it

    I’m aware this might not work, but this is the first time in any relationship I’ve felt like an issue has been discussed calmly with a plan of action moving forward. If it still doesn’t work out, I consider this a win for me as I’m gaining confidence to ask for what I want/need in a relationship and to be open and honest about the relationship.

    Thanks all for your input.

    #113639
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Brooke:

    I like your progress- good job, I say: attitude and performance.

    If he does join you for a therapy session- if the therapist is willing and able and if your boyfriend and you are as well, willing- that session (or future ones) can be about the therapist teaching and facilitating better communication and interpersonal skills between the two of you. If it comes to it, let me know: I have some experience as a client in such therapy.

    Hope you update again. Hope there are significant changes in the relationship and I like your logic and flexibility in figuring you will be evaluating the relationship and making your choices following this calm discussion, as the relationship continues.

    anita

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