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April 24, 2018 at 8:59 am #203865AnnabelleParticipant
My adult sister moved across the country purportedly to be closer to me and my family. Soon after her move I learned she connected with an old flame who is in prison (in another state) for raping his young daughter. Even so, I felt obligated to stay connected to her. After all, she moved for me, right? But after nearly a year of flimsy boundaries of “just don’t talk about it”, I couldn’t take it any more and I wished her well but told her I could not follow her on this path. She is now estranged from everyone in our family, except for rare calls to our mother with dementia. She plans to move closer to her flame and await his parole. I am heartbroken. I can’t stop thinking about what could I do? How can we be close again? Why does she do this?? She has a long history of attraction to dangerous and violent men. I’ve spent 20 yrs trying to talk her out of it and I’m out of gas.
April 24, 2018 at 9:31 am #203873AnonymousGuestDear Annabelle:
Do you know what has been motivating her to reach out “to dangerous and violent men”?
anita
April 24, 2018 at 9:41 am #203875AnnabelleParticipantI don’t. Other than she has been attracted to men with criminal backgrounds since she was in high school. She is convinced that this man in prison is innocent and unjustly framed by his exgf and her mother. We (my husband and I) told her that would be a shame, but if a jury of his peers found him guilty, that is all we need to know. We have children and we can’t normalize taking calls from sex offenders in prison (she did this in front of my kids on numerous occasions). She has lived with drug addicts who have beat her and who she has supported by working multiple jobs. She champions these men as she is the only one who understands them. She has never been able to take criticism. She has been fired from jobs bc she is obstinate and defiant with coworkers and managers.
April 24, 2018 at 9:52 am #203877AnonymousGuestDear Annabelle:
It is clear to me that your first responsibility is to protect your children, yourself and your husband from your sister’s associations with violent men, men convicted of violent crimes, drug addicts, and so forth.
I asked about her motivation because I am interested in motivations. Are you interested in what motivates people, and what motivates your sister, particularly?
If you are, and would like to look into it with me, will you describe your sister’s relationships with her parents, past and present?
anita
April 24, 2018 at 10:01 am #203879AnnabelleParticipantOur parents are narcissists. Not malignant narcissists. Our father is a fragile narcissist who used his high prestige profession to feed his fragile ego. Our mother was detached and self focused while we were growing up. My sister was always difficult and explosive. She engaged in screaming matches with our father and would use profanity even as a young teen. She started sneaking out in adolescence and sneaking boys into her room at night. She finished college, but always preferred to hang out with a rough crowd. I think she drinks too much but she has never been addicted to drugs. I know she has used weed and LSD casually. One boyfriend did meth, but I never saw signs she was using that. She loves drama. She records reality television shows and she is attracted to people with intense, chaotic, and dramatic things happening in their lives. She rarely contacts my parents unless she wants something. They connected to her through things, providing money. My father gave her cash and cars without question. She has never wanted for any material things. She is almost 40 and has never bought her own vehicle. She has several younger siblings and she was verbally abusive to them. She is superficially kind and says all the right things but her actions rarely match her words. As our younger sister was being diagnosed with cancer (we were on our way to see the oncologist) our sister was engineering a way she could borrow one of our vehicles to get her hair done. She is very focused on her appearance.
April 24, 2018 at 10:15 am #203881AnnabelleParticipantpresently our parents have told her that they too are unable to support her choice to pursue a relationship with an incarcerated child rapist and they told her that they love her and they want to keep in contact, but she is not welcome to come to their home because they fear for their safety (bc of the people with whom she is associating).
April 24, 2018 at 10:52 am #203887AnonymousGuestDear Annabelle:
Again, safety is the valid primary concern for anyone associated with your sister because of her associations.
As to her motivation: reads to me that she was, understandably, angry as a child, growing up with what you refer to as narcissist parents. Her anger is evident as an adult in her history at work (“She has been fired from jobs bc she is obstinate and defiant with coworkers and mangers”).
Her anger toward her/ your parents has not been resolved to this day. She is still angry at them. Her anger makes her inner experience intense, chaotic, and dramatic, and that is why, I believe, “she is attracted to people with intense, chaotic, and dramatic things happening in their lives.” Her inner experience is rough, and so she “always preferred to hang out with a rough crowd”.
She rebelled against your parents by using profanity against your parents and sneaking in boys into her room as an adolescent, didn’t she. She may still be rebelling now by associating and supporting people who are rejected by society, like this man who was convicted with such a violent crime that maybe everyone rejects.
Her chaotic inner experience, the ongoing anger, the rebellion, she needs to match that with her outside reality, I am thinking. It gives her relief, and that relief may very well be her primary motivation, a relief from her inner experience. When the drama happens outside of her- it is no longer happening only inside of her. It is like an anxious person being in a movie theater watching a horror movie- she gets a relief from her anxiety by being absorbed in the movie outside of her.
There may be other motivations. Let me know what you think so far.
anita
April 24, 2018 at 10:57 am #203891AnnabelleParticipantI think you are completely right. Now how do I unplug this pathological caretaking? I was the parentified child. I want to rescue my sibs and I can’t.
April 24, 2018 at 11:03 am #203899AnonymousGuestDear Annabelle:
You didn’t mention before “this pathological caretaking” on your part, being “the patentified child”. Regarding how to no longer have this role, I ask: how did try to take care of your sister when you were a child and since, as an adult?
anita
April 24, 2018 at 12:28 pm #203923AnnabelleParticipantI provided hands on care for my siblings until I left home. I got up with babies at night, changed diapers, cooked, cleaned, babysat, did laundry… as they got older I went to their “parent” orientations. I was available for problem-solving and phone calls, and visits. My sister is very angry that I have set the boundary and pulled away. She said she misses when I would try to talk her out of these relationships because it made her feel “supported.” I told her that I had realized it was pathological for me to play this role. She is a grown woman and able to make her own choices. If she seeks my advice I could share perspective with her, but I’m not going to continually argue with her or try to convince her she is making poor choices. She was upset when I said this. She refuses to believe I have pulled away bc she has chosen a pedophile. She says there must be another reason. When she arrived in my city she expected me to cook and clean for her and for us to go to get our nails done together. I work full time and I have a husband and two busy children. She seemed jealous of my children and was often unkind to them. I realized I could not leave her alone with them because she would lie when they were hurt and she seemed mean to them.
April 25, 2018 at 4:47 am #203985InkyParticipantHi Annabelle,
Your sister is choosing an incarcerated child rapist over her family. She is essentially saying that a convicted sexual abuser is more important than her nieces/nephews (and the child he abused). By contacting these types of low lifes in front of them, that sends a bad message. Abusers of any sort do not come before your family.
You simply cannot allow her to be in your home in contact with your children. This will send a powerful signal to her and your parents what is normal and acceptable. That the safety of your children and emotional wholesomeness come first.
There is no room for drama. Let her rage elsewhere. When your children ask what ever happened to auntie, say that “she has problems”.
Best,
Inky
April 25, 2018 at 5:46 am #203995AnonymousGuestDear Annabelle:
You wrote: “My sister is very angry that I have set the boundary and pulled away. She said she misses when I would try to talk her out of these relationships… I’m not going to continually argue with her or try to convince her she is making poor choices”-
It seems to me that she is indeed angry, still, at her parents, and still is rebelling against them, currently, by having a relationship with the convicted sex offender. Her motivation is to get attention. When you attended to her by arguing with her, trying to convince her she is making poor choices, she felt supported, the word she used, because she got attention.
In other words, she is making poor choices for the purpose of getting attention.
Hungry for attention, “She seemed jealous of (your) children”.
Your sister, reads to me, didn’t mature much since she was a child. Being jealous of your children and acting unkindly toward them is reason enough to protect them from her presence. She is not mature enough to contain her jealousy.
It is your very withdrawal from the caretaking role of her that carries the best chance of her making better choices. Give no attention to her poor choices, no arguing, no talking about it, no response, and she is more likely to abandon the poor choice than otherwise.
anita
April 25, 2018 at 10:26 am #204091AnnabelleParticipantThank you Inky and Anita for sharing your perspectives. It really helps my wounded heart and my frazzled nerves. My sister is excellent at blameshifting and she has sent me many angry emails accusing me of abandoning her and she has also knit together stories of seeing me in public and that I “shunned” her. Honestly if our paths crossed, I didn’t see her, and after reading her accusations, I felt concerned about the intensity of her anger. I just called to have my locks changed. I need to have good physical and emotional boundaries and release her to her own choices and their consequences. Thank you for helping me move toward greater peace as I grieve the loss of who I thought she was and the relationship we shared.
April 25, 2018 at 10:37 am #204095AnonymousGuestDear Annabelle:
You are welcome. Take good care of yourself and your chosen family (your children and husband).
Your choice to “release her to her own choices and their consequences” (and protecting yourself and your family of choice from the consequences of her choices) reads to me like a very good choice.
anita
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