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  • #353012
    Liz
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    About two months ago I broke up with my boyfriend of two years. I’m 30, and he is 40. We met via online dating. I was really skeptical at first, I thought that he seemed a little blocked- like he was a little afraid to put himself out there. I was in therapy at the time, had kind of swung from relationship to relationship in my 20’s- never taken time to ever spend time on my own. I’ve always been a very sensitive, emotional person. Throughout our two year relationship I did always feel frustrated with him- why does he say he’s going to do things he doesn’t do? Why does he want to watch sports all the time, why doesn’t he like being out in nature, why is he so judgmental and yet not very creative? But there were also things that I was really attracted to- he’s hilarious, he approaches everyone on the street with the same glow, the same friendliness, he’s a good and loyal friend, he cares about what’s going on in the world and stays engaged, he’s good at birthdays, valentines, celebrating important moments. He supports himself financially. He also really loved me, and would let me know the things I did inspired him, and that he liked that I kicked his ass sometimes. I liked that he made it okay for me to just chill out at the end of the day. Whatever moves I made were okay career wise. No matter what was going on with him, he seemed to have an endless well of warmth for people. I’ve always been REALLY high strung and he just made that and the things I stressed about ok. At the end of the day- he was always my cheer leader. I stopped drinking a year into our dating. I’ve always struggled with alcoholism. I started going to AA. He was very supportive, and would even go to meetings with me if I asked him to.

    Throughout our relationship I’ve been somewhat one foot in, one foot out of the relationship. About a year in I almost broke up with him because I just didn’t see him being passionate about anything. This didn’t really change. So about two months ago I broke up with him. It was SO difficult. I never cried more than in the two weeks after leaving. It seemed not the biggest shocker to any of my friends or family, like maybe things were good, but they could see the differences between us. Even he said I’d given him fair warning (I’d told him a year in he needed to take better care of himself), but also he complained that I never really gave the relationship a chance. Like I was always on the fence, with one eye on the door. These past two months have been so hard. It’s nearly impossible for me to get through each day without being in touch with him.

    I feel like, I kind of know that it was probably right for me to leave.  But I also feel like- will any relationship ever be enough for me? I have never been in a relationship with someone where I felt like things were good. And I’ve been in 8 or so, most lasting 1 1/2- 2 years. I feel like I would give anything for him to be able to be in my life again, to be close to him, to be with each other again. I read so many posts about people making it work even tho one person is type A, and the other more relaxed- one person a hippy, the other into material things. I feel like- our connection- our vibe with each other was good. We always made each other laugh. We could bring each other up. There was a deep attraction. I’ve given us til July before we get back in touch. I guess I have no choice but to wait until then to talk with him and feel where things are at.

    But I guess the question I’m posing to this community is- will I ever know for sure whether this relationship deserves a second chance? Have any of you had a similar situation? Or struggled with similar issues? We both have never been the best at relationships- me kind of swinging from one to alcohol to another, him not really having a serious relationship before me- do you thing we could benefit from regular counseling? Any feedback would be helpful.

    #353108
    Anonymous
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    Dear Liz:

    “do  you think we could benefit from regular counseling?” – from quality regular short term (or long term) counseling- absolutely, most people would.

    “Throughout our two year relationship I did always feel frustrated with him- why does he say he’s going to do things he doesn’t do? Why.. is he so judgmental and yet not very creative.. I just didn’t see him being passionate about anything.. I’d told him a year in he needed to take better care of himself”-

    – I want to understand better, therefore I ask regarding this quote:

    1. Can you give me examples of things he said he’ll do but didn’t do?

    2. Can you give me examples of him being judgmental?

    3. How was he “not very creative”?

    4. Can you elaborate on him not “being passionate about anything”?

    5. How did he not take care of himself?

    anita

    #353484
    Liz
    Participant

    Dear Liz:

    “do  you think we could benefit from regular counseling?” – from quality regular short term (or long term) counseling- absolutely, most people would.

    “Throughout our two year relationship I did always feel frustrated with him- why does he say he’s going to do things he doesn’t do? Why.. is he so judgmental and yet not very creative.. I just didn’t see him being passionate about anything.. I’d told him a year in he needed to take better care of himself”-

    – I want to understand better, therefore I ask regarding this quote:

    1. Can you give me examples of things he said he’ll do but didn’t do?

    -Early when we met he said he’d change his sleep habits (go to sleep earlier) and that he was going to apply for a regular job (he worked under the table). I thought it was good he wanted to do these things, didn’t ask him to, but he never really tried.

    -He would often say like I’m going to get back into yoga, or walking my dog everyday, or playing drums, but never did

    -He would often say “I’m not going to stay for very long” when he’d go out- which was not often-but then would stay out til 2, 3, sometimes all night.

    -Main issue- he had me put my name on a bill that he was responsible for paying because it was for his work and he rarely paid it on time. Turns out he couldn’t open an account for that bill cause he was overdrawn on his last account. Never told me that and to this day my name is still on that bill.

    2. Can you give me examples of him being judgmental?

    -He’d often make little jabs at restaurants we’d go to, or my sisters choices in boyfriends, ways I would choose to do things. It felt like he had a jab for everything.

    3. How was he “not very creative”?

    -He just didn’t create anything. Like in our time together I can’t list one thing that he made and was proud of. Like even a recipe that I didn’t show him that he was excited about.

    4. Can you elaborate on him not “being passionate about anything”?

    He was passionate about watching sports, music, weed (yeah), his dog, his friendships, our relationship. So that was not a totally fair statement on my part. But I guess I meant he didn’t have a hobby.

    5. How did he not take care of himself?

    He ate pretty crappy, didn’t work out.

     

    Thanks for your response Anita. I feel harsh answering these questions but tried to be honest. While writing I realized that maybe he sensed my desire for him to be more creative, more active, and that he would say what he thought I wanted to hear, that he was going to be these things. It makes me feel kinda bad. Like he always felt not good enough for me. And maybe that was true. Maybe I’m the judgemental one.  A lot of the guys I’ve dated have had so many passions like writing, building, making music, drawing, CRAFTING lol. Seriously. But they weren’t down to earth like this recent ex. They didn’t see me, and get me like this recent ex. They couldn’t pick themselves up from the emotional trenches like him. So I don’t know. I feel like the confusing part to me is- this most recent guy has made me happier than anyone I’ve been with. But yet again I’m getting the “not enough” vibes. I just feel like I will always get those. Like it a relationship will never feel “right” to me.

    #353524
    Anonymous
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    Dear Liz:

    When I first read your original post, “why is he so judgmental”, I thought  to myself, in the context of the rest of your post, that it is you who seem to be quite judgmental. You described things about this man that are what I consider most valuable in a person: “he approaches everyone on the street with the same  glow, the same friendliness, he’s a good and loyal friend… He also really loved me, and would let me know the things I did inspired him.. he seemed to have an endless well of warmth for people… He was very supportive… We always made each other laugh. We could bring each other up”. On the other hand, you complained about what seem to me insignificant things in comparison: “Why does he want to watch sports all the time, why doesn’t he like being out in nature.. not very creative?”.

    Before being quick to judge that you are judgmental, I asked you questions so to find out if there are significant things about him that.. I would criticize too if I was you, things you didn’t mention in your original post, I asked you to elaborate on: “why does he say he’s going to do things he doesn’t do”, and you wrote: “when we met he said he’d change his sleep habits (go to sleep earlier)”- this is evidence to me that you are indeed judgmental (quick to disapprove of a person, quick to shine the light on a person’s imperfections and ignore a person’s good qualities)- you didn’t approach the topic of his sleep habits from an attitude of empathy, understanding that it is very difficult to change one’s sleep habits, and that it would be difficult for you too to change your own sleep habits, to match his by sleeping later.

    On the other hand, when I read your reply I felt critical of him working under the table and having your name on his business bill. I find those things criticism- worthy, especially if you were to form a legal partnership with him aka marriage or the equivalent.

    In your reply to me you wrote: “Maybe I’m the judgmental one”- yes, I agree, even though I join you in some of your criticism of him (the above). Let’s look for more of that judgmental attitude: “Throughout our relationship I’ve been somewhat one foot in, one foot out.. he complained that I never really gave the relationship a chance. Like I was always on the fence with one eye on the door… will any relationship ever be enough for me? I have never been in a relationship with someone where I felt like things were good. And I’ve been in 8 or so.. yet again I’m getting the ‘not enough’ vibes. I just feel like I will  always get those. Like a relationship will never feel right'”.

    I  believe that what’s behind your judgmental attitude is an early life distress in the context of the relationship between you as a child and a parent. I think that you are afraid to find yourself in that kind of trap again, so you focus on the negatives of a man and discount the positives so to have a good reason to.. not be trapped with anyone, ever again.

    Here is a good example of how you discount the positives and shine the light on relatively insignificant negatives, or traits that are not negative at all, perceiving them as negatives: you wrote about your most recent boyfriend that he was not “passionate about anything”-  discounting any and all passions on his part. You then elaborated that unlike previous boyfriends he was not passionate about writing, building, making, music, drawing, crafting (“A lot of the guys I’ve dated have had so many passions like writing, building…”). Later you corrected yourself regarding your most recent boyfriend: “He was passionate about.. his dog, his friendships, our relationship”-

    Before, you discounted the most relevant and significant passion for a woman to overlook:  a man passion for the relationship with said woman!

    And instead you shone the light on his lack of passion for .. crafting.

    In summary: I think that there is hope for this relationship being resumed in a healthy way. Being passionate about the relationship with you, and being loyal, I think that he will be more than willing to get your name of that bill and to legalize his business. I think that you can work with him, once living with him, regarding your different sleep habits, have him exercise with you twice a week and eat healthier.

    But you will need to address what I believe to be your very distressing experience in childhood, being stuck with someone, most likely a parent. Process and resolve that distress so to no longer project it into your relationships.

    What do you think?

    anita

    #354710
    Liz
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thank you so much for your perspective- and for all the perspective you give on all of these posts. You’ve given me so much to think about, especially around working on the distressing experience that was my childhood. Both of my parents were alcoholics and deeply unhappy. We would have the police come to our house sometimes due to their screaming, and we were on the brink of homelessness from time to time.  There was a lot of anger and shame in that house and the possibility of being “stuck” in any relationship does cause me to really analyze and dig into anyone I might get close too. I told my ex about a month ago we should do 3 months of no contact so I could get my head straight. I’m still interested in being with him again, long term. But feel I should maybe give things one more month to focus on grounding myself (sans relationship)in AA- and maybe meditating on my issues with intimacy.Thank you for your insight. I really appreciate the time you took.

    Liz

    #354736
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Liz:

    You are very welcome and thank you for expressing your appreciation.

    “There was a lot of anger and shame in that house”, and fear. When a child experiences the kind of home you experienced, time takes on a different quality: it feels endless. It doesn’t flow. I remember, it feels suffocating, and you want to escape it, but you’re immobilized, unable to move.. fear is like a heavy, suffocating blanket making breathing difficult. I am describing my experience in such a home.

    Growing up in a home like this, you  keep wanting those moments of before, sometime long before and those moments from time to time, when the sun feels so new and inviting and the air is cool and fresh, and that youthful joy of life flows out, But in between these moments,  there are those endless traps of timeless misery.

    Healing takes processing those distressing emotions under that figurative heavy, suffocating blanket  until we free them from being trapped under that blanket, and they dissipate and disperse into the wide expanse of air above.

    Do what it takes to heal, be it in AA, therapy, meditating, etc., and you are welcome to express these emotions here, if typing words helps you with this kind of processing.

    anita

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