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July 10, 2025 at 1:34 pm #447496
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Sorry I got sick again. That Mom life. Happens every month it seems. Be back in a couple of days when it clears up.
Thinking of you! ❤️
July 8, 2025 at 10:38 pm #447418Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for understanding! ❤️
That is truly horrible for people to witness her physically abusing you and do nothing to intervene. You deserved someone to stand up for you and protect you from her abuse. Perhaps it felt incredibly isolating and added a further sense of despair feeling like nobody cared about what you were going through?
I’m glad that helped. It is the truth! 💯
I wish that I could have been there for you as you were suffering and tell her off and giving her a piece of my mind. I am being polite, I would say a lot worse.
The things that your mother did were severe crimes, quite literally. People have their children taken away these days for such things and end up in prison. Truly it is what she deserved.
How could she have the gall to hurt an innocent child and lie to you blaming you for it?!? She is a coward, bullying a child that cannot protect herself or escape. She has no accountability for her own actions, only concern about her own feelings. As a parent she should know better. Your child should be more important than yourself! Selfish! Selfish! Coward! Bully! Don’t harm a hair on Anita’s head. Don’t say a mean word to her. Don’t ever lie to her and pretend that she is at fault. You are so very wrong for hurting her and should be ashamed. She deserves to be safe, loved and protected. She deserves much better than you!
Please let me know if any of this makes you feel uncomfortable. I wouldn’t wish to make you feel that way. ❤️
July 8, 2025 at 3:44 pm #447409Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
I really appreciate the message. I’m going to have to get back to you tomorrow because I’ve been having a PTSD episode for a couple of days. I would like to talk from a more mindful place because I’m struggling to think at the moment. ❤️
Wishing you well, take care and speak soon x
July 8, 2025 at 3:39 pm #447408Alessa
ParticipantHi Ty
Of course, your thoughts about possible trauma make sense especially given her industry. Some people don’t acknowledge the difficulties they experience by labelling them in such a way.
It’s understandable to need to step back from that. Especially after showing up and being supportive when asked and spending a tremendous amount of money to do so. I can see that the difference between how she had acted in the past and during this specific time was very jarring and confusing. The blaming, gaslighting, refusal to take accountability and the abrupt end of the relationship I imagine would contribute to this?
It is a slap in the face as you will to be treat so poorly in response to such kindness.
It is a shame that you haven’t been able to get closure from her about this experience.
You seem like a very patient and understanding person. If she had just apologised and explained her very strange reaction I’m sure that you would have been able to overcome the difficulties.
I think that you can safely say that this wasn’t your fault. ❤️
It sounds like she was trying to push you away (for whatever reason) and she succeeded.
As for these types of procedures and potential trauma. Unfortunately, a lot of similar procedures tend to be very painful because it is a physically sensitive area and doctors aren’t always good about providing pain relief. It sounds like the procedure would not be quick either. This definitely can make triggers worse.
Doctors unless you specifically tell them that you have been assaulted and ask for measures of consent to be put in place are pretty rude and just go ahead and do the procedure without warning you they are starting or asking you if it is okay for them to start.
I had an IUD removed and another put in without painkillers and it took about 20 minutes and was excruciating. I couldn’t even talk at the end of it.
Of course, even if there was trauma. It doesn’t excuse her very strange response. Even if you were willing to forgive had she apologized. I think you did the right thing in standing up for yourself. ❤️
July 8, 2025 at 1:32 pm #447406Alessa
ParticipantHi Ty
I’m so sorry to hear about the difficulties with your partner since an egg retrieval. It sounds incredibly jarring and a very unfair experience especially after you did so much to be supportive. ❤️
I haven’t gone through an egg retrieval myself. But I have had various procedures done in that area.
I don’t mean to be intrusive, but do you know if your partner was ever sexually assaulted in the past?
I have experienced that and for me, procedures in that area are very triggering.
It doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong and you did your best to be supportive.
Are you both still in contact? How are you feeling at the moment about it all?
July 7, 2025 at 10:32 pm #447384Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
It is mind boggling to me that anyone would want their children to be anything other than happy. How cruel and selfish can a person be? Denying their child happiness, trying so hard to crush it. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour. Disgusting! How heartbreaking that you had to live through that hell of being denied happiness for so long.
I’m glad that you are reclaiming your happiness which used to be denied. You deserve every second of it. Making up for lost time. Let your light shine! 🔆 ❤️
For the record, I don’t think that innocent sweet child is one part of you. You grew up to be a sweet and kind woman. ❤️
July 7, 2025 at 2:01 pm #447378Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
I’m really sorry. It is not an easy conversation to have. ❤️
You really were just a sweet innocent child deserving of a life filled with love and kindness. It is a shame that many people don’t get what they deserve and that you were hurt so horribly by your own mother, someone who should have been a safe and comforting presence.
July 6, 2025 at 7:26 pm #447363Alessa
ParticipantHi Confused
You have a lot of self awareness, I can see you trying your best. ❤️
I’m glad therapy is helping and he is planning on going to AA.
The level of stress he is experiencing does cause difficulties in relationships. Especially when he withdraws and ends up neglecting you. It is understandable why you felt unloved.
You were trying your best to support him and things became a bit unbalanced in the relationship.
The reality is that partners do complain when these things happen and it sounds like he didn’t handle it very well, which only reinforced your feelings. His difficulties sound like they were because of his stress and weaknesses in communication skills. Care needs to be taken not to complain about difficulties in the relationship too much though.
It is a shame that these difficulties happened so early in the relationship. There is not a sense of stability yet.
Just spitballing some ideas to see if you think any strategies might be helpful?
Did you travel to meet him as much as he travelled to meet you? Or um would you be willing to travel to him a bit more? It seems like he is doing a lot of travelling in every aspect of his life. If you don’t have to travel as much in the rest of your life and it doesn’t stress you too much, it sounds like it might help him if you took on the burden of travelling to him for a while? What do you think? It could also eliminate the problem of him not showing up.
Do you have any interest in his hobby? Would you like to join him with that? He might be a bit more relaxed in that situation instead of just venting. Or does he prefer to be alone?
A strategy I use when people get a bit stuck on overly venting their feelings is to simply give them a bit of time that I feel comfortable with to let it out a bit, then I just change the subject. And if they keep trying to go back to venting, I just keep changing the subject. There is no need to stress yourself out with it. Just do what is comfortable.
I find that people find conversations where they feel blamed stressful. Setting boundaries in a polite way can be helpful. I would like… and then describe what you would like.
If you are with him on a date or something in person. Asking for a hug when you feel upset can provide some reassurance and comfort.
When you worry about his stress and feel unloved, you could try asking if he’s mad or upset at you. Usually, people will clarify what is actually causing them to be upset.
Oh and making sure you both eat before any stressful conversations can help calm things down.
I wouldn’t talk to him about stressful things whilst he is drinking either, it lowers inhibitions.
Keen to hear your thoughts! ❤️
July 6, 2025 at 3:16 pm #447362Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for your care, concern and kindness. ❤️
I’m still feeling better about being a mother now. The tight feeling in my chest is gone. Her shadow has left for now.
It is a relief, not to overthink and compare myself to her all of the time. Allowing my feelings space to breathe without that comparison, made me feel freer and more relaxed.
I used to feel guilty for wanting some time alone. As if I was a bad mother for getting overwhelmed and tired and not loving every moment of being a parent. I felt guilty, so I didn’t do it. It made me feel so overwhelmed.
I took some time to myself yesterday. It was nice. Even just giving myself permission and having the option of doing that, made me enjoy my time with my son even more. It felt like it wasn’t something that I had to do, but something I wanted to do.
So often, when looking after my son, the focus is on what has to be done. Taking care of his needs.
July 6, 2025 at 2:17 pm #447361Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
You are right, these things are complicated and nuanced.
Well, there was a study about murderers and it turns out that most of them either have neurodevelopmental disorders or brain injury, as well as severe childhood trauma. A deadly combination.
Not to mention, alcohol and/ or drug use are often related to homicide and other violent crimes. Only 16% of homicides occurring over the past 10 years in my country didn’t involve being under the influence. Drugs and alcohol reduce inhibitions to dangerous levels.
This is also relevant to parents, or someone who has insomnia or chronic sleep deprivation is shown to have similar effects to alcohol.
I don’t really buy the protecting themselves theory personally. Maybe some people, but not all. People deal with rejection constantly throughout life. Why does someone choose to act at certain times and not others? I know that violence makes people feel powerful, in control and it is fun. That was my perspective when I was 12. Some people don’t grow up or have an interest in developing empathy for others. When a parent doesn’t teach you it, you are left to your own devices.
I can understand the PTSD difficulties that your mother would have had. But I would guess that the nature of being a single parent with two children, created a lot of resentment towards her children specifically. For someone who is so unstable to resent their children ends very badly, especially when hitting children is seen as culturally acceptable. The prevailing belief for a long time is that children should be seen and not heard too. The combination of the these things, plus your mother probably had ADHD or something similar too since these things run in families.
Resenting children is something that is very common for parents. Being a parent is non-stop hard work. Not the child’s fault. Just the nature of being a child is inherently frustrating for parents at times. A lot of people take their children acting out personally. But children don’t have the level of brain development to be fully in control of their behaviour yet. It isn’t their fault and very often, a child is actually distressed when they act out. People wouldn’t necessarily have known this in the past.
It’s all a mess. But not one that you are responsible for cleaning up Anita. She should have been responsible for you and your sister. She should have protected you both instead of hurting you.
I’m glad to hear that approaching the difficulties with your mother from a balanced perspective is helping. You deserve peace! ❤️
July 5, 2025 at 1:54 pm #447344Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
You have helped over a thousand people. Did you ever wonder why you couldn’t help your mother?
People here are looking for help. Your mother wasn’t. She didn’t want to change. Some people just don’t want to. Changing involves a lot of pain and hard work. Refusing to change is easy in comparison.
Your compassion for your mother is understandable. But given the extent of your trauma, I doubt that she had good intentions all of the time. It doesn’t seem like she is a good person. A good person wouldn’t have hurt her children in the ways that she did.
Sorry to be a naysayers. It is okay if you disagree. I don’t really know her. I could be wrong…
You tried so much to help her, until you simply couldn’t anymore.
Grief is understandable. You deserve the space to feel and express that loss. ❤️
July 5, 2025 at 1:12 pm #447343Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for your support and kindness. I know that you understand what these experiences are like. I’m so sorry that you went through these horrible things too. ❤️
I’m feeling better today. It was good to get these things off my chest.
I’m doing my best. He is a good boy and deserves nothing less. I’m trying to put less pressure on myself, so I can be more relaxed. There was something I read that brought me comfort.
Children don’t want perfection, they just want to be loved.
July 4, 2025 at 2:38 pm #447335Alessa
ParticipantBeing a parent is triggering for me.
It is hard work, especially when you have no support from family or other childcare, as well as the neurodivergence and PTSD on top of that. Plus health issues.
I find myself constantly exhausted and overwhelmed.
I love my son, but I also miss the past when things were easier.
*trigger warning*
And these feelings remind me of what my biological mother said to me often growing up.
Having children ruined her life. She wished that she didn’t have us. Her hatred of us was so strong, she would describe to me in detail how she was planning to kill us in our sleep before we went to bed. Gasing us in her car was a favourite fantasy. No wonder I’ve always had trouble sleeping. No wonder I silently cried myself to sleep every night. I broke the ladder on the bunk bed just to feel safe. I practised holding my breath every night, because she would frequently suffocate me until I passed out. I had to grab a broom to keep her away us, as she brandished a kitchen knife and tried to stab my brother.
She was not like this. We made her become this. It is our fault. It is her parents fault. She was just doing the same things they did to her.
Not really the same thing at all. I worry that I will turn out like her. She told me I was just like her often enough. Children will believe just about anything if you tell them often enough.
I’m not stupid enough to ever tell my struggles to my child. I would never want him to feel unwanted. He is wanted. He is loved. Just things are hard sometimes and people want to let the feelings out.
I struggled with my inability to express these feelings for his entire life. I wanted to pretend that they didn’t exist because I didn’t want to be like her. Normal problems. Normal fears. And there is her shadow looming over me making it that much harder. Probably harder than anything else.
To this day, I struggle with feeling unloved because of her. The past overlaps with the present.
July 4, 2025 at 2:32 am #447326Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
I don’t think the person meant to hurt you by suggesting that. People often misinterpret others and don’t know the right thing to say. They also don’t have the understanding of the suffering you experienced at her hands. You have every reason to protect yourself from further contact.
It is okay to dream that things were or could be different. It is a shame that it isn’t reality.
Why didn’t she love you? She was flawed in many ways. Not your fault at all. She couldn’t appreciate you, stuck in the prison of her own mind.
The fact that you turned out to be a kind and compassionate person despite the chronic abuse you went through shows what a good and loving person you have always been.
You might not have been appreciated by her, but you are appreciated, loved and valued by a great many people. ❤️
July 3, 2025 at 10:51 pm #447324Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for your kindness and understanding! ❤️
A little at a time is natural. What happened to you, is not a small thing.
It is human nature to be afraid of pain. Our brains are not that smart. We process emotional pain as physical. There isn’t an understanding of the long term when we are in pain either. An intense focus on the moment. It might seem counterintuitive, but being able to connect deeply with the pain and then pull yourself out is in its own way healing.
It felt nice to have permission to exist as I am from that text and not feel broken. It reminds me of what my therapist used to say. That given what I had been through, my reaction to those experiences is normal.
I don’t mean that I blamed myself for not understanding. Just that in lieu of understanding a cause, my mind created one, me. It’s your fault that these things are turning out badly. Which isn’t true either.
The depression of wanting something that isn’t real and blaming oneself for it not occurring. For me, it took a willingness to see a different perspective to get past that.
I suppose there is a natural resistance to the present when things are difficult. A desire for them to be different, to improve and get easier. Instead of accepting that things will be difficult for a while but in time it will get easier as the situation inevitably changes. At the same time, self-blame, the desire to fix can make things even more difficult. Being preoccupied with the difficulties, not living in the moment and appreciating the fluctuations in a day.
Somehow, understanding that reality is okay as it is, though difficult. Can itself be freeing. The desire to fix can help in more practical ways when it is working on the correct task. It becomes the desire to accept, cope and endure. Letting yourself relax when there is a calm moment. Seeking and creating those calm moments.
Even in themselves, thoughts are not necessarily a bad thing. It is how much meaning we give them. Our attachment to them that causes pain. Sometimes things just exist and learning to react calmly is a challenge in itself.
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