There is a helpless feeling that comes with it, not being able to prevent suffering. But you are right, I can help afterwards. My spirit will know what to do in the moment. 🩵

Hi James

A world where atrocities are not seen as right or wrong sounds pretty bleak. So it is just nature to commit atrocities? It seems kind of unhealthy. 🩵

You don’t need to explain yourself. 🩵

And sometimes the body chooses to speak through ego. Apparently, it serves an essential function.

I wasn’t going to ask. 😊

Hi James

I appreciate your enthusiasm. Whilst in some cases that can be true, in others I disagree. 🩵

Some things happen that just cause massive amounts of suffering.

Some people suffer when they want a baby and can’t have one, others don’t. People suffer at different levels with health issues. Some people value wealth and some people don’t. Eventually, once people get ill enough they suffer.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that people traumatised by war experience PTSD because of expectations. Some things are just horrific to experience.

I think it’s not so much expectations that bother me, trauma is what bothers me. I experienced a huge amount of suffering as a child. I can’t protect my son from suffering. I can only try my best, but some things are out of my control. If I can make his life a little more gentle, a little softer, a little kinder. That is my job as a parent because things will happen that hurt at some point in his life. It is the way of the world. 🌎

Are people wrong to care about what they care about? Most people will never be enlightened in their lifetime. It is natural for them to feel the way that they do. I cannot say that someone is wrong for wishing they could have a baby. For grieving for their loved ones.

There are no answers for why the innocent experience immense suffering. 🩵

I think I might understand what you mean by spirit. 🩵

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Hi Anita

It occurred to me that it might help lessen the pain to make plans and connect with the people you care about from the winery. The place might be gone. Perhaps you could still maintain some of the relationships with those who are willing? ❤️

Hi Everyone

Thank you for sharing Peter, as always a lot of interesting thoughts! ❤️

I have been thinking here and there about this. Considering the point Peter made about language earlier too. Always, so busy. 😮‍💨

I feel like language is used to understand each other. That being said, it is imperfect. But people want to know when they are in danger. They want to understand. They want to feel understood and cared about. They want to be free. They want to know when they are being threatened. They want to understand when they need to protect themselves. And everyone is different, so people make their best guess based on their experiences. Just my impression. ❤️

A baby’s first words are based around expressing autonomy and desire. Getting attention and praise. No. Why. Yes. Food. Body parts. Animals. Colours. Shapes. Building a vocabulary. The frustration at not being understood lessens.

I’m starting to understand the huge amount of work that goes into seemingly basic tasks. So many layers. We commit these things to muscle memory and forget about the huge amounts of training and effort it took to even achieve them. So much for free will, when many things we do have been rehearsed and become habit.

But yes, flow. I guess to me, it means accepting everything. Even challenging emotions or doubt if the moment calls for it.

I don’t think my life would look much different. ❤️

One thing that I did think is to listen to my body more. But even then, sometimes I think I don’t because I’m juggling other things. Priorities. ❤️

Some things are hard to swallow. The memories of my mother living on in me.

Hi Kyle

I’m sorry to hear about the deaths of your grandfather and grandmother, and that you have a terminal grandmother who will pass away soon. I can hear how much they all mean to you! ❤️

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You’re very wise in welcoming your grief. It is true, without it there is no love. There is no right way to grieve, so please be gentle with yourself throughout the process. ❤️

It is a shame to hear that her children haven’t been involved in the process. Is there a story to that you would like to share?

It sounds like to me that you are trying your best and doing a good job to be there for your grandmother. Please remember to take care of yourself too. ❤️

As we age, well it seems to me that grief doesn’t get any easier. For people you love it always hurts. Along the way you find your reasons to keep going. There is a lot to live for. 😊

Hi Tee

I just want to say that it has been really nice all three of us talking and getting to know each other better. It is special to be able to connect with people who understand the difficulties that we all grew up with. I’m truly sorry for everything you went through. You are such a special person and it is especially cruel for the person who should support you the most not to see you for who you are and have always been. ❤️

It is difficult to explain. I don’t really want to get into it too much because this is Anita’s thread. But I can explain a bit more on my thread.

I’m thinking of you and your spine issues Tee! How frustrating, your back had just recovered.❤️

Please take all the time you need in replying. I’m here and there anyway. 😊