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Alessa
ParticipantHi Chris
I’m sorry to hear about your struggles with the stigma, losing your career, family, friends, and the difficulties with finances since. That is a lot to deal with. Even one of those things is considered a traumatic life experience, let alone all of that at once.
It’s wonderful that you’ve found peace in the ability to let go despite the challenges.
Does the case being overturned mean that your record will be expunged and you get your license back?
I’m happy for you that things are turning around. I wish you the best of luck in rebuilding your life! Has it sunk in yet that this is happening?
I wonder, do you have any advice when it comes to letting go of things?
Alessa
ParticipantHi Drew
I’m sorry to hear that a medication caused you to speak your thoughts out loud. That is upsetting when it didn’t used to happen before. Does it happen often?
If you don’t mind me asking what was the name of the medication that caused the issue?
I’ve quite often experienced doctors not learning about the side effects of medications. It is entirely possible that it could be a rare side effect depending on the kind of medication.
They may also not be concerned because thinking out loud is a rather common behaviour. Certainly, it isn’t something that means anyone is crazy. I’m a thinker out loud too. I don’t really mind it though. When it came to a job that involved confidential information and working openly in the public I just practiced muttering to myself without the noise to avoid any issues. Humming a tune is also something I did instead. The internet recommends chewing gum.
It sounds like you handled the situation with the optician well, you were just a bit surprised. It is common for people to not respond in a usual way when they are surprised. I don’t think it’s necessarily a problem that they tried to help you, but they could have asked if it was okay first.
I can understand why you would want to manage your emotional responses when it comes to hitting things though. The easiest way would probably to pay attention to your mood and disengage from whatever situation is upsetting or making you angry before it gets to the point where you start to hit things.
Do you have any difficulties with sleep at all?
One of the most helpful things for impulse control is to sleep well. It might sound silly but research shows that being tired is just like being drunk, which also negatively affects impulse control.
The times when I struggle most with impulse control are when I haven’t been sleeping well.
Of course, managing stress is important too. People often act out of character when they’re stressed, as opposed to when they are feeling calm and relaxed.
I found the supplement L-theanine helpful for impulse control. It is an extract of green tea and promotes a calm focus (I was also having trouble concentrating at the time). Anti-depressants can also be helpful too. I understand if you are feeling unsure about taking medication after that experience you had though.
Beta blockers have also helped me to manage my emotions when things are really tough. It’s not a mental health drug. Just a blood pressure medicine.
When it comes to situations that you are aware of in advance, considering how you would like to act before you are in that situation could be helpful. Or if you are placed in an awkward situation and need some time to consider how to respond, excusing yourself and going to the bathroom so you can collect yourself can be helpful.
Splashing cold water on my face, massaging my neck and back of the head, yawning repeatedly are all things that science shows calm down the nervous system.
I wish you good luck with figuring these things out!
February 22, 2025 at 2:37 am in reply to: Question Are we born with a Purpose or do we create our own? #443136Alessa
ParticipantHi Patricia
I don’t think it is a flaw. You are clearly a good person, caring and spiritual.
I think that when your life is so full with a partner, a career and children it is hard to find time for yourself. It is easy to lose a sense of self under all of the responsibilities. Do you have time to do the things that you love anymore or do you prioritise the things that immediately need your attention?
I do believe that all life has innate meaning. Consider your children, they didn’t have to do anything for you to love them except exist. You matter just as much as they do. ❤️
What do you think?
Alessa
ParticipantHi Gabriel
Your love for your girlfriend, self-awareness and desire to seek solutions are commendable!
You mentioned that you are an extreme extrovert. Do you have anxiety and difficulties spending time with other people as well as your girlfriend?
Are there specific moments over text that increase anxiety for you? In person, can you identify anything specific that increases your anxiety?
Do you feel that there is pressure to move in together because you live 4 hours away?
If you don’t mind me asking, what has living with others been like for you?
It is clear that you care about your partner. Because of the combination of the extreme extroversion, the distance between you both and your care for your partner, do you find that during visits you have a tendency to push yourself to your limit or beyond it? Or do you feel like there might be another reason?
I would imagine that taking breaks and spending some time alone to decompress is essential for you. If you take better care of yourself and pay attention to when you are getting overwhelmed and take breaks when you need them before you are beyond your limit that might be helpful in curbing any unwanted behaviour.
Alessa
Participantthink that there are moments in life where things click. Has anyone else felt moments like this?
For ages I struggled with a feeling of not having love for myself. I worked on forgiveness, boundaries and negative self-talk. Then I realized one day that I had achieved these things and had love for myself, but I struggled to connect to it and feel it.
Another time things clicked was when I realized that it was random chance who I was born to and no matter who was born to her she would have had the same difficulties raising. That is when I realized that I was not to blame.
Another time it clicked was when I nurtured unconditional loving relationships with people who accepted me as I am. I realized that perhaps if they loved me, I was actually worthy of it and that it doesn’t matter who that love comes from.
I already mentioned the birth of my son. The latest click. Being just as worthy as he is. Every child, every adult, every animal being worthy of the same love for just being.
Seeing a child and not knowing how anyone could treat them badly.Reflecting on the core belief again. My biological mother would assault us using common child behaviours as an excuse. Every night I would reflect on the day and identify the mistakes and plan how to do things perfectly. Hoping that if I got things right, I wouldn’t “cause” her to get angry and beat us.
I believe that is the root of the not good enough belief. But as my therapist said, the reason she did these things is not because of us. According to my biological mother’s own words, it was a result of her own trauma. She was just doing what her parents did.I find it interesting that we all have different experiences of school. It was a mix for me. A couple of good teachers, many indifferent, only one bad teacher. I was good at my school work and behaved well, so I was largely overlooked and never punished.
I experienced bullying, but knew how to deal with bullies, so it wasn’t too bad. I knew how to find people that I would get on with and had at least one friend at each school, sometimes more. It was hard for me moving schools and leaving friends behind without even being able to say goodbye. I stopped bothering with many friends. I’m a caring person. It is hard for me to lose people. I still remember their names, even from elementary school. The less people, the less to lose and I don’t need many people in my life to be happy.
Alessa
ParticipantI think what I have trouble with is letting go. Big changes are hard for me. It takes time for me to process and adapt. I do understand this about myself though.
Another thing I thought of in regards to strength was vulnerability. It is hard to be vulnerable. It does feel dangerous and takes courage. The way that I see it, doing the most difficult things takes strength.
I noticed that my definition of weakness was related to how I viewed myself in the past.
I was doing my best to just hang in there and stay alive, despite wishing otherwise. I didn’t want to hurt my sister by dying. I didn’t know how to get through the pain alone. I needed professional help. I did the best I could. And when I got the help I put my all into it. I can’t blame myself for that. I feel like these things are impossible to deal with alone.
I think that truly giving up would have been to kill myself. It might have been a horrible time, but I fought hard, managed to get through it and create a good life for myself. I have myself to thank for that. As well as the people who helped me. Life is a journey and values are an important part of life.
I agree that self-compassion needs to be felt. Love for others helps me to extend it to myself.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita and Jana
Thank you both for the kind thoughts! ❤️ I’m feeling better today.
I’m glad that you found reflecting on the themes helpful! I love the self-acceptance Jana. Like you, I choose to work with my nature. I think it’s great that you feel a lot of freedom in reacting in the moment and maximising your possibilities. Whatever helps you is truly the best way for you. ❤️
I love what Anita said on Jana’s other thread. A lot of great insights on this one too! I had never really thought of surpressing pain as suppressing my inner child. I have been rather detached from it viewing these things as memories and pain from the past. It was helpful to reframe it and address the inner child. Congratulations on the breakthrough in self-compassion Anita. I think that you’re a great person! ❤️
I don’t know if either of you have ever seen Pirates of the Caribbean? I think of these things more as guidelines than actual rules. 😉
I understand the concerns. For me, it is important to set achievable goals as opposed to unachievable ones. I don’t really tend to plan too far ahead. It just helps me to actively sit down, think about and plan exactly how I’m going to achieve something.
You see, in stressful situations I struggle. I have difficulty problem solving, make a lot of mistakes and forget things when I’m nervous. Planning, memorising and rehearsing just creates the best outcomes for me. I know if I have practiced it successfully I can do it again in the moment.
I don’t really judge myself harshly when I don’t succeed. Doing my best is enough and making mistakes is expected and accepted. I just review to see what I can learn and try again.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Substantial
You don’t necessarily sound insecure to me. It sounds like you have some genuine concerns about incompatibility. You clearly care about her. But caring about a person doesn’t mean that you are compatible.
People don’t have to be bad to not be our person. And you aren’t a bad person because your needs are different to hers. That is a part of life. It is human to want a partner that can meet our needs. You deserve for your needs to be met and not live unhappily in a relationship that doesn’t meet your needs.
It is only through dating that you can get to know if someone is the right person for you or not.
From how you describe her she is able to take care of herself. I think that a break up would initially suck, as break ups do. She would be okay after that initial hump though.
It’s nice that she is trying to take extra care of you when she feels that you are upset. The question is realistically, practically what actions would you need her to take in order for the relationship to continue?
For example, you mentioned that she doesn’t visit enough. How often would you like that to happen?
Alessa
ParticipantI am finding it surprisingly hard to talk about self-compassion. It involves digging through things that have helped me in the past and naturally reminds me of feelings and memories from the past.
Things were really hard for me back then. It hurts to think about. And my brain does not want to let go because it hurts.
I have PTSD and the mechanism for PTSD is based on avoiding the pain. Intrusive thoughts happen because I don’t want to feel the pain and avoid it.
*trigger warning*
I went through a lot of severe abuse with my biological mother and I was not accepted by my adopted family. And I was raped by a close friend. Initially, I coped by believing that my mother was the only bad person in the world. But after a person I trusted harming me, I was terrified of everyone and felt nothing was safe for me. I hid and numbed the pain with prescription medication while waiting to see a therapist to deal with the trauma. The pain was unbearable. I hated myself for not being able to cope or protect myself.
The level of trauma was what made it difficult for me to cope, as well as the lack of healthy people in my life.
It wasn’t my fault. Just the result of a genetic lottery and being born to someone incapable of being a parent.
Sometimes good people go through horrible things. I’m lucky in that I got help to get through the pain and things are a lot better for me now.
I don’t hate myself anymore. I’m proud of myself for doing my best to crawl out of that dark hole.
Sometimes the past hurts. Sometimes life has it’s ups and downs. I’m trying to be gentle with myself. I even love myself, but sometimes I just wish that the past didn’t hurt.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita and Jana
I really appreciate the little community that is building up here. 🙏
Yes, at some point in their life, I believe so.
It is very damaging when external validation isn’t received growing up, especially when criticism is involved.
It is important to go with the flow and stay flexible for sure. What about plans and rules makes you feel nervous Jana?
Strength
Emotional resilience
Overcoming difficulties
Being honest with yourself and others
Physical strength
Looking for help
Admitting when you have made a mistake
Weakness
Lack of physical strength
Something that someone is not good at
Doing the easy thing not the right thing
Success
Developing new skills
Working hard
Having everything you need
Living a good life
Being happy
Love
Failure
Not passing a test
A part of the learning process
Giving up
Living a bad life
Alessa
ParticipantHi Kane
I’m sorry to hear that you aren’t feeling so good right now. You seem burnt out, with the weight of the world on your shoulders. Please be gentle with yourself. ❤️
Regarding changing family dynamics. They can change, for the better for the worse, it is up to the individual.
You can be an inspiration to them. You can teach them. But it is up to them whether they listen or if they prefer to carry on. Pay attention to how they respond.
I’ve been there. My sister got through it. My Mum gave up.
Unfortunately, these things take time. It is not an easy thing to do. People change a little at a time. You will be hurt in the process.
Some advice I received from my therapist was to view unhealthy people who refuse to change as ill. This means not having a full relationship with them and protecting yourself.
Putting your needs first for a change might be helpful when you are feeling down. What do you need right now?
Alessa
ParticipantHi Jana and Anita
Thank you for your kind words Anita. 🙏
Jana, you did a good job with reframing the negative thoughts. 😊
I did quite a lot of introspection. Defining my values because a lot of negative thoughts were based on judgements that others might make. Societal expectations and whatnot. My personal values and beliefs are more gentle.
An exercise that Jana might want to try could be defining what the following things mean; weakness, strength, failure and success. See what you think? I did this type of thing when I was in a good mood, so I wouldn’t be harsh on myself.
My core belief was “I’m not good enough.” I kept lists of compliments from people and wrote down the ways in which I am good enough. It really did take time and consistency doing these things to modify my beliefs.
I also worked on planning my life, what I wanted to do with it. Skills to acquire. The kind of person I wanted to be. Goals.
Therapy certainly helped, but I did the bulk of my work on self-compassion outside of therapy. The goal of therapy is to teach you to be your own therapist, so it gave me the tools.
I did exposure therapy to help me to tolerate distress. I found distress tolerance useful for a bunch of different scenarios that helped with my self-compassion. Being a tutor, studying, working helped address my fears of failure.
The basics of exposure therapy are that the more something is avoided, the greater the fear of it. It confirms that you were correct to fear it. When exposing yourself to fear or distress. You’re aiming for a level you can tolerate for about an hour. Which is how long it takes for the body to start to calm down around these things. You note how you feel at the start and after the hour is over and compare the results. The goal is to start off easy and steadily work your way up as you become more confident. And it is okay to do things that make you feel more comfortable. I brought my dog or a friend.
I found external validation helpful personally, because it made me start to believe that if others liked me, then there might be something to it that I can’t deny. It doesn’t take you the whole way though.
I also had some therapy for intrusive (unwanted) thoughts. It was helpful for me to understand the basics for these things happening. The more distressing it seems, the more important it seems to your brain and it is more likely to reoccur. So ultimately, being calm about negative thoughts occurring reduces the chance of them reoccurring. For me they are also more likely to occur with the following factors. Sleep deprivation, pain and hunger. Ultimately, the trauma was the origin.
From my perspective you are managing your life perfectly well Jana. To have your own business is impressive. Having a loving partner, a lovely dog and good relationships with your parents is a beautiful thing. Financial difficulties everyone goes through at some point in life. These things come and go. I think that everyone has their own individual hardships. Yours are just different from theirs.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Peter
I enjoy our conversations too! ❤️
I had no boundaries as a child. I was groomed to allow people to abuse me without protest. My therapist taught me a lot about boundaries as a young adult. I think I went the other way and went too hard on them, being afraid of allowing abuse.
Now, I’m finding that there is a middle way. Not taking everything so seriously. Using empathy and understanding to consider why someone might be expressing themselves in an unhealthy way and considering the intent.
I love the insight that we should be accountable for our own feelings and choices. 😊
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita and Jana
I noticed that we are all similar, yet uniquely different too. That is ultimately what I believe about all people. However, we do have some shared goals, experiences and values that are make us more similar than others.
Well done on overcoming the perfectionism and binge eating Anita! Jana, I’m glad to hear that forgiveness and acceptance bring you feelings of self-liberation.
I’m sorry to hear that you both experienced a lot of criticism. It isn’t easy to deal with. I agree, it is hard work to change these kinds of beliefs.
I would say both. My natural behaviour was heavily modified by both of my families. Allowing myself to do things that I want to do that they would discourage is healing for me. It is nice to allow myself to be without judgement.
In therapy, getting in touch with the inner child’s desires was encouraged.I would also add that my mind was quite different at different stages in life and it feels like each of those variations is still present in some way.
I guess becoming a parent helped me to realise that no one has to do anything to be a worthy human being. Just being a lovable scamp is enough. 😉 For me not to cringe, I have to believe the affirmation. When I feel it is untrue, that is the difficulty for me. Being a parent has also helped me to grow as a person – becoming more patient, less judgmental and developing some discipline when it comes to managing my emotions.
I look forward to you both elaborating more on your experiences of self-compassion. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Peter
To be clear. I don’t think you meant anything in a bad way. You are a good person, I trust that you act with love in your heart. ❤️
I only brought it up because it is an interesting to discuss the other side of the coin, one that I never used to be aware of until recently.
Ah I didn’t realise that the scenario with the key and theft was a metaphor.
Accepting bad behaviour would be to allow people to treat you badly.
I agree, accountability and responsibility are important. I just find that it creates less conflict when they are freely given. A good person will do these things without asking. Not necessarily when we want them to happen but with patience it generally happens when they are ready.
I have done a lot of research into healthy vs unhealthy behaviours. It turns out so many more things are classed as unhealthy than people realise.
For example, telling someone that you feel that they dismissed you, is itself dismissive. The person may not have had bad intentions or it may have happened unintentionally. It is coming at the situation with criticism and blame.
I’m finding that it important to have unconditional positive regard for others to have an open heart, mind, patience and curiosity during times of conflict. These things are tricky to learn to do.
I feel like a lot of hurt is avoided by simply disengaging and allowing cooler heads to prevail. As someone who values holding space for others to allow them to express themselves, it is me not taking care of myself and taking breaks when needed that has been causing myself problems.
I guess I can be a bit blunt. Whilst it is other people’s responsibility how they interpret it. It is also my responsibility to try not to unintentionally hurt someone’s feelings.
I’m sorry to hear that you’ve been through things that have taken a part of your spirit and you have had to reclaim it. It is not easy to go through these things.
I think that sometimes what you want to achieve is important. In conflict there can be many different goals for communication. Is the purpose to express feelings? To stand up for oneself? Is the purpose to resolve conflict? Is the purpose to foster positive communication?
Sometimes only one thing can be achieved at a time and we have to make choices as to what we would like to prioritize. It is not possible to have everything work out in the way we would like it to because we are all unique uncontrollable individuals, so we have to make do with what is achievable.
Sometimes this means having to temporarily put feelings aside if the goal is to foster positive relationships.
Thank you for explaining! That makes sense. I would agree. All we can do is try our best! 😊
I feel like sometimes it is easier to identify with the ego (the noise and the pain), than it is the identity with the stillness and peace in the mind. Usually, for me when the pain is strongest. I’m working on changing that though. My experience is that whatever I choose to focus on I tend to identify with. Technically, both are part of the whole that makes up me.
I love the quotes by the way! Food for thought, indeed.
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