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Alessa
ParticipantHi Jana
Sorry for making you feel uncomfortable. ❤️ This is your thread so I’m happy to not talk about topics that you are uncomfortable with. Would you like to share what is making you feel uncomfortable in particular?
Self-compassion I think is about accepting all parts of ourselves. I’m sorry to have made you uncomfortable by talking about ptsd symptoms, memories and communication difficulties. I think that getting to know ourselves and our weaknesses and being able to talk about them kindly is a very important step when it comes to self-compassion. I understand that some of these topics can be triggering though.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita and Tommy
I’m well thank you Tommy. 😄 How are you?
Oh boy, I missed this one because it was deleted. Drama! 🎭
I’m going to play devil’s advocate. I believe that Tommy’s apology is genuine because straightforward people are very genuine. It is definitely something that can rub people up the wrong way (I know that from experience as a straight forward person myself).
He doesn’t strike me as a simpleton, I believe he’s learned his lesson. Poor choice to try these tactics with very vulnerable people.
I can understand a feeling of incompleteness whilst forgiveness is not received. I’m a chronic completionist. No matter how terrible a television show is, once I have started watching it I will watch all of the seasons. With unresolved conflict, it eats away at me to fix it or “complete” it. I think for me it may stem from a sense of anxiety about it. However, many people simply prefer to have their peace. Different people have different needs and it can beneficial to try to meet others needs. Meeting needs is very rewarding and surprisingly rarely done. It can be a lifeline to those in need.
I feel like people are complicated and can hold more than one feeling at the same time. That doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s inauthentic.
I feel like men can be a bit more brusque due to socialisation. Quite often they are used to teasing each other in playful ways that can seem quite harsh on the surface. I think it is important to have a male voice around. It brings a unique perspective.
I read something recently that said bluntness is a privilege reserved for friends. I can understand why that might be. It is hard to know how someone will respond until you know them better.
There are many different schools of thought of these things. I can understand why there is a belief in certain things. I do think that it is important to find the right balance.
I watched a documentary with the Dalai Lama and a child had fled from Tibet, her family were dead and she had found a new life in India. She talked of her grief for her relatives. I find it touching that whenever someone spoke of painful things he would subtly pray as they spoke. He advised her that if she focused on all of the wonderful things that she will learn in her new life, the pain of losing her family will hurt less. She kind of shrugged a bit unsure.
At this time, the Dalai Lama was accompanied by Archbishop Tutu. Who said sorry for her loss (it should be noted that the Archbishop spoke first).
I feel like the two approaches complemented each other well. Softening the message. It was described that Archbishop Tutu gave the gift of sympathy and that the Dalai Lama gave the gift of courage.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
Thank you for sharing your feelings and experiences! They definitely resonate with me. 😊
I’m sorry to hear that you experienced that. No child should have to hear those words from the people who should be protecting them. ❤️
I have some dark memories of threats like that, my monster would say it a lot. I would like to share a funny one though, so prepare yourself for some dark humour.
I had some food aversions growing up. There were these tinned sardines in tomato sauce on toast. I refused to eat it because of all of the little bones too small to pick out and I didn’t like the flavour of tomatoes either. She ended up getting frustrated with me and saying “If you don’t eat it I’ll put your face in it!” I still refused and she actually did it! Then, the doorbell rang and it was cult members. She hurried me away to go wash my face and threatened to kill me if I told them what had just happened. So I came back through and said nothing and one of the members said “Can anyone smell fish?” And I burst out laughing because my face still smelled of fish even after doing my best to wash it all off. 😂
Yes, I know what you mean. After being adopted I would flinch when anyone moved their arm suddenly near me. And ask permission before getting food from the fridge because I used to get beaten for eating without permission. I feel like the past lingers in my subconscious and rears its head poking through into my conscious mind wondering is this going to happen again?
I like that you use the word monster. That is the word my therapist used to use. I feel like it is rather apt for both of our “mothers”. 😊
I’m glad to hear that the memories are imprinted less intensely and that the escalation happens much slower now! That is excellent progress.
The escalation is still rather quick for me unfortunately. However, the memories feel far away in the distance compared to how they used to feel in the past. I believe that is because of therapy. Perhaps it is also because my life feels so different now? I make an effort these days for my life to be very peaceful.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
That is very kind of you. Thank you! ❤️
I noticed that for me, these things are worse in the middle of a ptsd trigger. I don’t know if you have experienced that too? It is like um two triggers being on top of each other.
It helps me feel safe to be alone when things are like that. Do you feel like that too? Or are there differences for you? You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, I was just curious what your experience was like. As you say, knowing that you are not alone in these experiences is helpful. It is nice talking to someone who understands what it is like.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Tommy
I’m glad to hear that you are working on being kinder to yourself as well. You deserve all of the good things! ❤️
You would know me by a different username by the way. 😊
Alessa
ParticipantHi Drew
Thank you for your kindness and understanding! ❤️
That is unfortunate to hear that advocacy wasn’t able to help either.
I’m sorry to hear that your health condition has that intense level of stigma to it. That makes sense. It’s unfortunate when you bump into someone who is being rude. I find that people often do these things when they are struggling in life. I feel like in British culture there are some situations where it is an expectation to politely accept a bit of bad behaviour, or at least ignore it. It is hard to undo all of that cultural training. Whilst in other situations there is an expectation of responding in kind. Finally, there is the situation where these things are more serious and taking formal action is required. I feel like assertiveness is more useful in personal relationships where the person is expected to listen to you, but I admire your personal goal!
Thank you for sharing your technique that you used to help you during exams! It is really helpful to me because I’m a student. I had never heard of that before and I will definitely give it a try.
Congratulations and well done on getting your degree! 👏
Good luck with the job hunting, as well as getting the doctors to reconsider. Take care
Alessa
ParticipantHi Tommy
I’m glad to see you around again. 😊
We are not monks, I feel like as lay people we can only try our best.
Kindness works in two ways. It is directed both at ourselves as well as others. We cannot have one without the other, so working on being kind to ourselves is very important. I have noticed that this is something you have difficulty with.
We are a product of our experiences and change takes time, it happens bit by bit. Acknowledging your mistakes and apologising is an important step. 🙏
It is good that listening to your teachers and advice brings you comfort and you have found meditation helpful. You deserve to find comfort and clarity.
It is unique. We don’t decide when someone sees the truth. That is their journey. We can try our best to facilitate our journey, as well as theirs.
Yes, learning is very important. I feel like there is something to learn from everyone.
Not drinking while commenting might be helpful for you?
Take care and welcome back old friend. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
I’m sorry for the delay in writing, it has been a busy week.
That is very sweet of you to say! You certainly have a way with words. Thank you for your kindness, it is touching. I’m glad to hear that it was helpful to process and understand yourself some more. ❤️
I know that you will go from strength to strength in whatever you set your mind to. 😊
That makes sense with everything that you’ve been through. It is a shame that it is not properly recognized in America yet. I’m really sorry that she treat you like that. No one deserves that, let alone a child and to receive that kind of treatment from a “parent” when you deserved to be protected, loved and cherished is a very difficult way to grow up.
I’m similar with the hypervigilance, being afraid of being hurt by others. It is not an easy thing to deal with.
Good luck with everything! Not that you need it. I’m confident that you will succeed.
Alessa
ParticipantHi n20
Wow! You have been through so much. I’m glad that you managed to get everything figured out.
It is not easy, especially being young there is the assumption that you are healthy. A surprising number of my friends have all either been ill since childhood, or gotten ill as young adults. It is more common than most people realise. I’m talking about cancer, chronic brain diseases. All pretty serious things.
Thank you for sharing your story! It was very inspiring. And well done on passing your classes while going through all of that. ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Peter
Thank you for sharing your kind thoughts! ❤️
What is interesting is that I don’t dwell on these things anymore. I have accepted the situation and no longer fight against it. I realise that I don’t matter so much anymore. Raising my son well is the most important thing to me now.
It often strikes me that after a certain amount of time, something that I used to worry about no longer matters.
I’m sorry to hear that you’re stressed by the news. I get stressed by it too. I’m on a news hiatus and somehow I still manage to learn about it from others without even trying to.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Drew
Sorry for the delay! It has been really busy.
I’m glad to hear you don’t beat yourself up over your condition. It is a shame that other people are not understanding or forgiving though. It’s unfortunate that people treat you so badly because of your condition.
Oh I wasn’t trying to imply anything about you. I was just trying to be fair and supportive of both you and Jana. She is a good person and I don’t think she means you any harm. Infact, I guarantee that! ❤️
I get it. Meditation is not always for everyone. It took me a long time to be able to do it because of trauma (I had trouble with all of the breathing focused stuff) and I also had difficulty with racing thoughts. It was like trying to meditate in a hurricane while having an anxiety attack. I had to get advice from a meditation teacher to navigate these issues.
It is a shame that the doctors haven’t been able to help you with these issues so far. Hmm I wonder if it might be helpful to get a local free advocacy service involved with the doctors. I agree that it is important to keep trying. This is quite a significant issue. That such personal things are coming out and that it is so frequent is very troubling.
Apologies, I wasn’t there so I can’t really interpret the situation properly. I’m sorry to hear that the optician was being so disrespectful.
It’s good that your sleep has started to improve. 😊
I do think that your idea about assertiveness training was a good one. If you google “skills you need assertiveness” the top link is the one I used to learn about assertive communication skills myself. I found it really helpful.
I can understand the difficulties with scenarios which are planned for. I have made mistakes too when something unexpected comes up. I think that is why I only do this with very structured situations. For example, job interviews, repetitive situations at work and telephone calls. I work quite hard to practice beforehand. Studying, writing, memorising, practicing the scenarios with others before the real situation.
Technically, all beta blockers do is calm down physical sensations of anxiety. Without actually altering the mind. It makes sense that they didn’t work based on what you’ve said. This isn’t an anxiety issue.
I wish you good luck with everything! ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita and Jana
I settled on understanding the meaning of the emotions.
I remembered something that my old therapist said.
Negative emotions are not bad. They have a purpose. Anger is there to let you know when a boundary has been crossed.
I have been feeling anxious and I wondered what the purpose of anxiety was. To highlight a threat or danger. It can also be related to fear of loss. For autists particularly, uncertainty. The difficulty is that anxiety can misfire when there isn’t much of a threat. This is what happens to me a lot because of my PTSD. Hyper-vigilance.
I’m learning that I don’t often directly think about my feelings. I tend to focus on other things and not even notice. I have to look for the hidden underlying reason. Then when that is acknowledged the feeling passes.
I’m glad that you had a good weekend, Anita. I did too. Thank you! You deserve encouragement. You have achieved so much and are an inspiration to everyone here! ❤️
Ah well there was a pirate code of conduct. And one of the characters tried to use that to their advantage. And the pirate refused to co-operate and said they are more like guidelines than actual rules.
I’m working on handling conflict too, it is pretty tricky! I feel like internal validation is important. I feel like the more I do that, the less I need others to meet my needs, I guess because I have already met them. I am okay with doing my own thing and other people doing their own thing. I feel like that is healthy for me. Letting things unfold in their own time naturally instead of trying to steer the ship as it were.
I’m also working on understanding myself and others more. I’m pretty straightforward and honest. Which is not the best combination when it comes to conflict. Even with good intentions, it is easy for people to feel hurt. So I’m trying to learn how to be less blunt and when it might not be so helpful to share something.
I also have a tendency to emotionally shut down to protect myself in conflict. People often interpret that as me not caring. Which isn’t true. I’m a complex person and I don’t ever stop caring about people, not even during disagreements. As you say Jana, I just don’t like being vulnerable when I’m at risk of being hurt. I still have a lot of positive feelings for others when I express that and I feel rejected during disagreements it hurts.
There are some complex communication skills that I would like to learn, indirect communication and positive confirmation.
I’m glad that you no longer feel that others know more about yourself than you do Jana. 😊
Whilst I do find outside perspectives helpful. I feel like there is a vast inner world that other people are unaware of. Also, every person views us differently. Depending on when they meet us, they can hold onto views from the past which isn’t their fault, but there is a lot of growth that they are unaware of.
I feel like you are someone who has a rich inner world and there are a lot that some people might not take the time to get to know properly. I think that you’re a very wise and gentle person. I understand what you mean when you say that you have always been submissive. It is rare to meet someone as peaceful as you.
My guess is that lot of people don’t understand you and misinterpret your actions because you are so different. People often only understand what they haven’t experienced themselves.
I would guess that you probably do accidentally hurt people though. Everyone does because we are all so different. It is easy not to realise it when you have good intentions. There can be an assumption that others would see our good intentions and how much we care. But unless we are very straightforward and explicit in telling people this, it is easy for them to misunderstand and make assumptions.
I could easily be wrong about this, these are just some things that I have learned myself recently. What do you think? ❤️
It has been really busy recently, so sorry for not having a lot of time to write. It takes me a lot of time to think about things that are very meaningful.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Gabriel
It is tricky that talking about these things upsets your girlfriend and arguments can happen.
If you think about it this way, she is sharing her worst fears with you. As someone who is emotional and shares fears, I would simply see it as her seeking reassurance from you. But the difficulty is, in states like this is that insecurity ultimately comes from within. It is not something that you can make better. Would holding her calmly and letting her cry it out after you have said your reassuring words be helpful? She might feel better when she is simply feeling less emotional.
You mentioned that you used to be more loving at the start of the relationship and have grown more distant. Do you think that could be related to the arguments at all? There is a phenomenon. When you start a relationship you have a lovely blank slate. Later in the relationship, the slate is no longer blank. All of the disagreements are remembered.
You mentioned that it scares you when she says that you can’t give her what she needs.
It is very common in couples for needs to conflict. It is okay for her to want more attention and it is okay for you to want space. Both are fine.
Am I understanding correctly that you took breaks from the relationship in the past? I would recommend not doing that in the future. Unless you want to end the relationship entirely.
I know that for some people, these things mean a lot and are hard to forget. Perhaps that could be adding to her insecurity?
I don’t think you are being a bad boyfriend. You are trying your best to figure everything out! ❤️
Alessa
ParticipantHi Peter
Thinking of you as well!
I found an old journal entry and I thought I’d share it.
If I could, I would climb mountains
If I could I would be a dog walker
If I could I would be a ranger
If I could I would fix this house
If I could, I would laugh and smile.
I still feel trapped by what I can’t do
I want to be free
I’m grateful that I can walk. I’m grateful for my job. I’m grateful for my husband.
I just want to heal and I have to be patient. I have to focus on the good currently in my life.
I look forward to dinner and walking the dogs.
It’ll be nice to make some new friends and learn about Buddhism.
I’m glad that I helped my sister feel more comfortable today.
Alessa
ParticipantHi Chris
That is really good news! I’m sure that you will rise to the challenge of sitting your boards again. You have been through so much, this is the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel.
I can see why going through interviews like that would be really stressful. Have you any ideas what country you would like to settle down in? Will you have to learn a language too?
A hypothetical thought. Are there any other careers that you would be interested in pursuing? Or is this your calling so to speak?
Thank you for your service! ❤️
I am someone who likes to learn from others unique viewpoints. I find that I learn a lot from other people. But I do understand, it is very personal, so please don’t worry about it. 😊
You are a very determined person. I’m glad that you fought hard against all of these difficulties and overcame them. I’m sure that your spirit will protect and guide you through the challenges yet to come.
Good luck with figuring everything out! You deserve good things to happen. ❤️
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