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  • #444419
    Chau
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    thanks anita, for your kind words and your sharing of your own experience
    It sounds like a challenging experience for you too
    i am going on a trip tomorrow
    let me sink in a bit and reply you later
    take good care in the meantime 🙂
    clara

    #444368
    Chau
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    No rush at all
    You take care too!

    Clara

    #444346
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita,

    I just happened to come back and saw your message. Sorry for my late response. How have you been?
    I am good in general, I have already disconnected with the colleague(with occasional texts on random food/ restaurant to go only) and nothing romantic involved. I have moved passed her for sure.

    These days i was reminiscing on my ex. Her dad was in coma since last Dec due to a traffic accident, she did share a bit when we talked about the yoga arrangements(we used to go to the yoga studio at the same time so we tried to avoid that). I tried to provide some support via texts. This happened a few times since Dec, but we were only talking in texts. We haven’t talked for a month of two(not even via text) at this point, unsure how she and her dad is, but she came up in my dream and made me cry.

    Today my other ex(let’s call her A) was talking to me, we are good friends now and today I suggested something to her. She reacted greatly and after some reflection, she said it reminded her of me blaming her when she didn’t return my texts at that time, it was 10 something years ago when we dated. She felt innocent that time as she was only reading at that point, both she and i know(only know it now, not then) that was my anxious attachment that caused my blaming, but she couldn’t help but felt hurt at that time, and she said she had some emotional reflex towards what i said , even though she knew i was really just suggesting something for her good or improvement.

    The next thing i realized, was may be this was a pattern that happened to my immediate ex. May be i thought i was treating her well but she was also a victim of my anxious attachment. I tear up, with the thought that i might have treated her wrongly(although i am well aware i did not have the ability to change it so much at that point)

    So this thought that I am not suitable to date came up, I really don’t know how my attachment would come up again if i date again.

    I know i am a kind, responsible and empathetic person. But at the same time i also know that I have these emotional weaknesses and anxiety/ obsessions that I need to deal with. Today I am just thinking, how do i accept myself and how do I handle these ?

    A bit derail from the ‘relationship’ topic, but i guess ultimately, i am trying to find a path to build a relationship with myself
    I guess other than these deep thoughts, outwardly looking i am doing ok

    Anyways, thanks asking for checking on me, hope all is well

    Clara

    #442011
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita
    Sorry it took me a while to reply.
    It is Chinese New year now and I have been spending a lot of time with my family, and also to wrap up my work.
    I like your poem very much. I think it summarized the whole encounter and also what is actually happening between us. I even have an urge to send it to her, as a way to communicate to her my feelings and thoughts, but I didn’t, first because it was you who is the author and secondly, it may be too blunt and too naked.
    I still talk to my colleage, but I feel we have grown a bit of distance recently. Initially I feel the urge to attach still, but there was one time when i called her, i felt she was more shocked than happy. I feel bad about it, may be a feeling of rejection. I mean she remained polite but I was thinking to myself: if she isn’t even happy that i called her, how would this even work at all. From then on, I was able to mentally detach from her a bit more.
    I mean, even if like her, I don’t want to be a rebound of anyone, but want to be treated right and with respect.
    I think i was able to do that with my ex, she was also a bit on and off with her then-ex, until i said i needed to detach from her to just be friends with her. Once she knows my boundary and expectation, and probably the consequences of her lingering onto her then-ex,, she did break up with her ex and start a relationship with me. Afterall, we have spent 5 years together, with mostly happy memories in between.
    How has the poem experimentation been? Personally i quite like it as it is a conscise, and catchy summary of my situation
    Good to know all is well 🙂
    Clara

    #441999
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita,
    I am good thanks for checking!
    Been a bit busy lately, let me properly reply you late
    hope you are well
    Clara

    #441669
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi all
    Thanks for all your reply

    @jana
    , yes I did go through a difficult break up around 6 months ago, but I feel good right now, emotionally I think i am available and ready to enter a relationship(or not, both are fine actually)
    So I actually am not actively looking for someone, I do go on dating app, but most of the time i just chat with people but honestly am not very active, i’d like things to go more naturally instead.

    Anyways, a few weeks have passed so quickly.
    In short, I didn’t really cut my colleague off. I did try, after I knew she and the ‘woman’ are in good terms now(whatever that means), just immediately after New year i think. There was also one time when I felt she was not fulfilling what she said(she said she would help me trim my cats’ nail but it never happened), and I felt she was mostly just seeing me in between her other commitments , but not really making plan(which i said earlier), so i asked her no need to say she would help unless she could really find a confirmed time(she has all the ‘may be tmr’ ‘unsure if sun works’ things going on). I basically said if her priority is not with this, and insinuated that if her priority is not with us/ our interaction, I don’t want to continue with this.

    We stopped talking to each for just one day after i said so, and the day after(which is a Monday, 2 weeks ago), i hurt my knee and when she knew about this, she kept asking how i was and eventually we started talking again, like how we used to be.
    We talk everyday still, i was a bit angry with her at something the other day, i told her about it and said i feel that she has taken me for granted, she was very eager to reach out to me and tried to comfort me. But when i told my friend about this, she reminded me that these interactions, are very couple like, to which i also agree. The interactions are far from pure friendship. There are times when she said she wants a hug, and i do want hugs too and we would hug each other. We just didn’t kiss or go further. So we are kind of in this grey zone.

    Last week she had hre birthday, we went out for dinner the next day.
    I asked her about her ‘woman’ that night, she told me then she knew she wouldn’t be with the ‘woman’ in the long run, she was also very tired of taking care of her. She mentioned her ‘friend’ also asked her to explore other options and don’t be stuck with her. She did tell me her vision of her future partners. So in a way she mentioned they were not together But I know they still interact(probably closely), and I really have a hard time gauging this. It feels like I am navigating a world that I previously had no idea exist. The way she handles relationship is not something that I can comprehend.
    That night when we left, we held hands, i walked her back home and we hugged.

    I mean, I have a part in it. I didn’t set firmer boundaries with her. I would have reiterate my boundary and expectations. But because she was my colleague so I didn’t really wana cut her off. Secondly, I am indeed attracted to her and this makes me hard to leave.

    I know i need to keep more distance with her, which I was thinking to do so after our planned birthday dinner celebration.
    It was last friday night, and throughout the weekend I did talk less to her. She usually talks less to me during her day off though, I think she was busy celebrating still(she got so many friends celebrating with her that she had to arrange breakfast celebration)

    There are other things, that I think may be considered as red flat
    – her boundary setting, with her ‘friends’ , and obviously with me
    – she said she was spoiled and like to feel she was spoiled by her partner( i kinda agree, she probably like grand gesture which are not my forte)
    – she said she could get really obsessive/ possessive if she really like someone.

    I think i need I need to set firmer boundaries, with or without stating it clearly with her. I could have just stopped the interaction with her so that things could die down.
    I don’t see her as a very good long term partner, so in any case, I should just stop this.
    It’s just that I have some attachment lingering on, and honestly, I have been deprived with care/ simply some deep hugs, to which i mentioned she was very good at. I think that’s why

    Thanks for listening all!
    Clara

    #441124
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Good to hear from you too!
    Thanks for your suggestions and kind words.
    Yes she did show a lot of good qualities. I think all the qualities and her outlook and the chemistry, they all seem to be matching what I want well. I don’t know how she feels about me but I guess there is no point digging for now, with her current situation.
    i did say something like this last week, but at that point i didn’t know she is so back and forth with her ex. I thought she was breaking up with her and setting things, so all I said was I would still talk to her but won’t go any further, so that she could have time to settle things. I can support her if needed during this tough time.

    Just that when things unfolds, it seems she is the one who can’t leave her ex.
    i will try to make things clear with her next time I see her, I guess inevitably we will see each other, and may be a proper conversation is necessary

    Thanks Anita, wish you a lovely year in 2025

    #441123
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Helcat

    Good to hear from you.
    Yes there was a similar situation before as well. I guess it triggered me in a sense that I know I need to apply my lesson learnt. my current ex had some complications(not as complicated as this one i feel) before we were together. I did the same, to distance myself from her for a while to transform my feelings, before I talk to her again.
    For this time, the colleague’s attachment to her ex is still very strong, and she even verbally said she wanted to be with her if at all possible. So obviously this is not something that I would consider engaging in. I don’t feel very bothered(I am, but not to an extend that it is affecting my mental health), and I am quicker in realizing how the dynamics are in this current situation. I guess i have learned from the past.

    The work thing is complicated, but it does seem to me she still want to chat with me, as friends? as potential partner ? i really don’t know. and I can’t just cut her off, it would be weird when we meet in the office.

    She used to say a lot more flirty stuffs before i showed my distance. I think she either is not in the mood(quite engulfed with her current break up) and also, may be she knows I am setting a firmer boundary.

    Thanks for your wishes.
    Happy new year to you!
    Chau

    #439229
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Hope you are well. I am in Bali trying to search for things that enlighten my spirituality as well as helping myself to find some peace.

    I am sitting right in front of a rice paddy and I would like to reply you here, before my flight back home.

    Yes indeed I was attracted to her because of her independence as well. There was a part of me thinking: she was so independent, and I can just go on trip on my own as much as i want, and I can go travel with friends freely without feeling a burden to go home to my partner.

    Somehow the table turned around and I become the needy one.

    Honestly, even i travel alone this time, my mind is still filled with memories of her.

    I am hoping to mentallly leave everything that happened behind in bali, so that I can go back as a fresh person.

    Re the cat, I may foster one first. My friends got connection with a volunteer and there are two cats in need of a home, otherwise they will be released back to the street after sterilization. I said I could take care of them at least as a foster parents for now, guess it may be better than them loitering in the street.

    update you again soon.

    take care

    #439056
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    I did tell the shelter that I don’t mind having two, I think they can play with each other etc. So it’s not something random that they pulled out to me. but if they aren’t siblings/ friends to begin with, and with the age difference I feel this adds to the complication. and yes, I would feel more comfortable adopting the younger one, since I can’t feel the connection with the older one(although I laid eyes on the older one just photos,  first).Now when i think about it, i prefer adopting two already connected cats, and then i slowly establish relationship with them.

    One of the reasons I go for cats, is that I feel having dogs take up even more responsibilities. With one cat I have to constantly go home and play with him/ her, but with two I can just let them be at home and they would feel more at ease. That’s a more comfortable level of responsibilities that I can take.

    I kind of felt sorry that I didn’t pick the older one in the end(his chances are more limited since he is an adult), but then when i talk to others, I realized another friend of mine also know of a cat volunteer, who is having some other cats to give away. There are just so many of these and I think I can only consider what I can offer and what I like, because i simply cannot offer my care to every single animal in the world(especially I am a new owner). I can only choose the ones that genuinely makes my heart happy when I see them. I do feel happy with the 3.5 months old one, but then he will be alone if he comes to my place(being a young child I believe it’s best if he can have another cat).

    I trust that this cat will find it’s fate and its owner(coz he really is very cute haha)

    So, it’s another lesson for me, I like the younger one but i do not necessarily need to pursue a relationship with him, because the scenario does not seem to be fitting what I am aiming for. Similar to romantic relationship

    Re the dream: I think it’s the fear of change, and this change is quite long term. It’s also the responsibilities, not so much about that they will die under my care(more like I would have lots to do). For that I need more time to settle.

    Re volunteer: That’s what I am thinking too, I may find other source of happiness / fulfillment, even if I choose not to adopt in the end.

    Thanks Anita

    Hope you have a good night

     

     

     

    #439011
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    So I visited this cat again, with a new paw friend whom the shelter tried to pair him with the nervous one, for me to consider adopting both.

    The new baby(3.5 months old) is very cute and very friendly to human. After touching him for a bit he was longing for more and started to approach me for pat him and pamper him already. For the other one (4.5 years old), he was still a bit nervous but I am able to touch him finally.

    Honestly I started to like the new baby a bit more, although they pair him so as to increase the 4.5 years old’s chance of adoption.

    I will think for another few days, I know the baby is being asked about his availability, but this shelter is seeing if I am interested first.

    Last night I had a dream. I am currently raising a hamster, and I saw her pregnant and i suddenly saw a few babies next to her.

    Panicked and nervous, I started to check on the babies, at first i saw 4 then suddenly it became 3. The panicking goes on until I woke up.

    I was thinking may be this is too much of a change for me, which is reflected in the dream

    So now I have a few choices: 1) Adopt both; 2) Adopt either one of them(although they try to pair them but one is 3.5 months the other is 4.5 years old, I don’t know how they can work well); 3) Not adopt now/ at all/ look for other places.

    I don’t know if I am too picky/ or may be I am simply not ready.

    Re: volunteering. I got a chance to see the babies &  that I will potentially work with that day, some of the kids are so eager to look for human, keep waving and saying hi. They are so cute doing that but then it also means they are really eager to human connection. Hopefully I can give them a bit more interaction and sense of connectedness.

    Thanks, until next time!

    #438973
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Thank you. I will try to remember re the sparks(one easily gets light-headed when sparks occur,  that’s my issue also)

    I also feel uncomfortable that the cat is nervous around me. I express this to the shelter, that I am a new cat owner and that I am unsure if I can really bond with this nervous kiddo. The staff and volunteer in this shelter is very nice and they suggest me to visit him more to see how I feel later. I am opened to adopting two cats(since they can play together when I am not at home), and they are trying to help me find one that is friendly to this nervous cat and human.

    I have visited many shelters these two months. They all gave me very different feelings, one of which have staff who seems not knowing much about the animals they have, nor do they seem to care. Later on I read online as well as heard from friends and other animal welfare volunteers that the owner of this ‘shelter’, actually get their cats from their own cat selling shop, thus these cats actually are either sick, or unsold, thus ends up here. The application form is a bit fishy also, as it kept asking if you would purchase things from them, whether you do pet grooming, check up before you adopt them etc etc.

    Although I like one of the cats there, and that I have visited her a few times, I end up dropping the application because I feel that if I get the cats from there, i am indirectly encouraging what they are doing.

    Then there is another one who is doing a lot of publicity, but when it comes to replying my messages,  they don’t seem to be active(as if this is not too much of a priority as well). I sense that the adoption is not a priority for them.

    Then there is this agency that I am currently engaged with. I have went to their adoption day twice, and have spoked to quite  a number of ‘foster parents’, they are very honest and have told me the character of the cat that they are currently fostering. They are all telling different stories and I can sense they think being honest is the best policy to find potential adoptions. They would even have whatsapp support to let you know how to help the cat adapt, and how the cat has been in the foster home. I feel they genuine care about the cats. And the cats are all mixed breed, really one of those who are less preferred in here.

    I feel the whole process is like finding a partner, with hiccups here and there, and finally found a person who seems to be the ‘right person'(still unsure)

    re the volunteering programme. Yes i am excited about it also. I did hesitate for a bit since it is a one year long commitment. But I remember the time when I went solo travelling in south America. From there I learned some ‘fear'(for a lack of a better word) is good and is just because I am going out of my comfort zone, others are actual ‘fear’ that may cause harm.  I think this is a good fear and it’s just me going out of the comfort zone(plus I really the support the cause of this).
    I feel a lot is happening after the breakup, and I am doing a lot of things that i truly want, now that I am not swayed or need to accommodate the needs of another person

    Weather is changing and the autumn breeze feels nice. Hope you have a chance to enjoy the nice weather in this time of the year.

    Clara

    #438938
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    How are you?

    So I spent a Sat morning with this person, she is quite easy to talk to, she seems to be caring and understanding. But I don’t feel any spark, I think we can be friends(and I am happy to be friends with her) for now, i think we will meet up later : )

    Yes I remember the qualities I am looking for now. I am still looking for a pet to adopt, interesting I realized the process is similar. I saw a photo of a cat which is available for adoption. When I went to meet him, he was very nervous, I could not even touch him. That got me thinking: I like him in the photo, but he seems to be so nervous of me, would i be able to handle him?

    It’s like I had sparks, but then the characters seem to be not matching. I guess it can take time for them to warm up, especially he was a stray cat in his early life(his hand was injured a year ago that got him to the shelter), I am pondering on this, on whether I should adopt him and develop (a relationship literally) with him

    I guess I need to choose a cat first, before things get completed, and I need to change the window a bit to prevent them from jumping off the building etc. otherwise, it should be fast

    I also, recently applied to be a volunteer on  a weekly basis, to one of the shelter for children. They are either abandoned/ in foster care, what I will do is, to provide individual attention(and attachment figure i assume) for these kids. I find this really fascinating and this excites me, as I am exploring my attachment and trying to help myself feeling more secure, I got this opportunity to help other human beings become more secure. This came to me as I realized how important attachment is.

    Will update again later, wish you well!

    #438832
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    I am good, thank you for always checking on me 🙂

    Thanks for digging out this post. Because of this I re-read this thread. I realized, my ex has not changed at all. The initial perception of her, not able to be completely honest, emotionally unavailable, actually still existed by the time we broke up. When I read how I wrote what happened then, It sounds like that ‘I’ was more assertive, clear-headed and probably more in-tune my heart. I was in a better state when I was not dating her!

    She probably did open up a bit in between, but that was not long lasting. That was not her. She did it because of me, becuase i wanted clarity, because I wanted more answers/ connectedness from her. It was not a change that came from herself.

    A couple of things happened these days. I dreamed of her breaking up with me twice in the past two weeks, it got me upset for a while, as if my process went backwards. I have been visiting shelters to really want to see if i could adopt a cat or a dog. I started my 10k running plan again. I managed to do headstand which i wanted to do for a while, but didn’t really put effort or engaged in training before my break up. I registered for volunteering.

    The other day I bought my ex a tin of Garrett popcorn and put it in the yoga studios that we go, since the stores are closing in my city. She likes this store very much. I didn’t think too much before I bought this, Initially I thought i wanted to have some sort of process(don’t know, may be talk again?) with this gesture, but later on i realized i don’t need it, or may be i don’t even want it.  I do want her to feel happy or appreciatve towards this, but, she doesn’t need to talk to me. I am happy that she felt happy(which she said so and was thankful for). After that, I felt that I have let go of something, coz i realize, I really don’t need to talk to her.

    Regarding  your last post about my fear of being ‘stuck’. I did ponder on it a bit, i think there is a differnce between getting stuck with something i didn’t like / didn’t choose vs I did. For now, I am choosing my own life so I should be happy sticking with it/them. i did feel a bit loosen up afterwards, which lead me to proceed with my adoption.

    This weekend, I am going to meet with a new person whom i met in a course that i attended a few weeks ago.It was a rainy day and we were outdoor, she approached me with her umbrealla coz i was only wearing raincoat(which was not enough under such heavy rain), that got us start talking, i asked her to see if she wanted to hike another time and she quickly said yes.

    I found her really caring, she asked when i usually wake up so as to decide when we should meet, she is the one who suggested all the restaurants and let me choose. it’s a very different feeling from my ex whom I need to lead a bit more at times. I felt warm and taken care of somehow. I am unsure if she is gay or not, but it definitely feels good to meet a new friend who gives you positive energy. This time I will remember the qualities that i am looking for, honesty, monogamy, straghtforwardness. Let’s see if this goes anywhere.

    Have a great morning on your side

    Clara

    #438485
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Hope you are well 🙂

    Thank you. Yes it is how she operates, the more my distance with her grows, the more I can see it. Yes that is how the pattern is, and she is not able to form a good connection with me with this operational system

    One thing that is bothering me recently: I am trying to adopt and so I went to the adoption centre for a few times. I have found one that interacted with me and I wanted to adopt her.

    After completing the form, a sense of anxious and fear came up, lots of worries, such as would i be able to take care of her? What if I don’t like her after say one or two years, what if my future partner does not like her? What if my parents and she needs my care at the same time?

    These made me so nervous that I was sleepless last night, and thought of withdrawing the application.

    This reminded me last time, like what happened when i planned for my tattoo, i emailed that person, asked about all the details and was so scared that I didn’t do it.

    I started to think this may be a pattern, but I don’t know how to name this.

    Any thoughts?

    Take care

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