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  • #439229
    Chau
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    Hi Anita

    Hope you are well. I am in Bali trying to search for things that enlighten my spirituality as well as helping myself to find some peace.

    I am sitting right in front of a rice paddy and I would like to reply you here, before my flight back home.

    Yes indeed I was attracted to her because of her independence as well. There was a part of me thinking: she was so independent, and I can just go on trip on my own as much as i want, and I can go travel with friends freely without feeling a burden to go home to my partner.

    Somehow the table turned around and I become the needy one.

    Honestly, even i travel alone this time, my mind is still filled with memories of her.

    I am hoping to mentallly leave everything that happened behind in bali, so that I can go back as a fresh person.

    Re the cat, I may foster one first. My friends got connection with a volunteer and there are two cats in need of a home, otherwise they will be released back to the street after sterilization. I said I could take care of them at least as a foster parents for now, guess it may be better than them loitering in the street.

    update you again soon.

    take care

    #439056
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    I did tell the shelter that I don’t mind having two, I think they can play with each other etc. So it’s not something random that they pulled out to me. but if they aren’t siblings/ friends to begin with, and with the age difference I feel this adds to the complication. and yes, I would feel more comfortable adopting the younger one, since I can’t feel the connection with the older one(although I laid eyes on the older one just photos,  first).Now when i think about it, i prefer adopting two already connected cats, and then i slowly establish relationship with them.

    One of the reasons I go for cats, is that I feel having dogs take up even more responsibilities. With one cat I have to constantly go home and play with him/ her, but with two I can just let them be at home and they would feel more at ease. That’s a more comfortable level of responsibilities that I can take.

    I kind of felt sorry that I didn’t pick the older one in the end(his chances are more limited since he is an adult), but then when i talk to others, I realized another friend of mine also know of a cat volunteer, who is having some other cats to give away. There are just so many of these and I think I can only consider what I can offer and what I like, because i simply cannot offer my care to every single animal in the world(especially I am a new owner). I can only choose the ones that genuinely makes my heart happy when I see them. I do feel happy with the 3.5 months old one, but then he will be alone if he comes to my place(being a young child I believe it’s best if he can have another cat).

    I trust that this cat will find it’s fate and its owner(coz he really is very cute haha)

    So, it’s another lesson for me, I like the younger one but i do not necessarily need to pursue a relationship with him, because the scenario does not seem to be fitting what I am aiming for. Similar to romantic relationship

    Re the dream: I think it’s the fear of change, and this change is quite long term. It’s also the responsibilities, not so much about that they will die under my care(more like I would have lots to do). For that I need more time to settle.

    Re volunteer: That’s what I am thinking too, I may find other source of happiness / fulfillment, even if I choose not to adopt in the end.

    Thanks Anita

    Hope you have a good night

     

     

     

    #439011
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    So I visited this cat again, with a new paw friend whom the shelter tried to pair him with the nervous one, for me to consider adopting both.

    The new baby(3.5 months old) is very cute and very friendly to human. After touching him for a bit he was longing for more and started to approach me for pat him and pamper him already. For the other one (4.5 years old), he was still a bit nervous but I am able to touch him finally.

    Honestly I started to like the new baby a bit more, although they pair him so as to increase the 4.5 years old’s chance of adoption.

    I will think for another few days, I know the baby is being asked about his availability, but this shelter is seeing if I am interested first.

    Last night I had a dream. I am currently raising a hamster, and I saw her pregnant and i suddenly saw a few babies next to her.

    Panicked and nervous, I started to check on the babies, at first i saw 4 then suddenly it became 3. The panicking goes on until I woke up.

    I was thinking may be this is too much of a change for me, which is reflected in the dream

    So now I have a few choices: 1) Adopt both; 2) Adopt either one of them(although they try to pair them but one is 3.5 months the other is 4.5 years old, I don’t know how they can work well); 3) Not adopt now/ at all/ look for other places.

    I don’t know if I am too picky/ or may be I am simply not ready.

    Re: volunteering. I got a chance to see the babies &  that I will potentially work with that day, some of the kids are so eager to look for human, keep waving and saying hi. They are so cute doing that but then it also means they are really eager to human connection. Hopefully I can give them a bit more interaction and sense of connectedness.

    Thanks, until next time!

    #438973
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Thank you. I will try to remember re the sparks(one easily gets light-headed when sparks occur,  that’s my issue also)

    I also feel uncomfortable that the cat is nervous around me. I express this to the shelter, that I am a new cat owner and that I am unsure if I can really bond with this nervous kiddo. The staff and volunteer in this shelter is very nice and they suggest me to visit him more to see how I feel later. I am opened to adopting two cats(since they can play together when I am not at home), and they are trying to help me find one that is friendly to this nervous cat and human.

    I have visited many shelters these two months. They all gave me very different feelings, one of which have staff who seems not knowing much about the animals they have, nor do they seem to care. Later on I read online as well as heard from friends and other animal welfare volunteers that the owner of this ‘shelter’, actually get their cats from their own cat selling shop, thus these cats actually are either sick, or unsold, thus ends up here. The application form is a bit fishy also, as it kept asking if you would purchase things from them, whether you do pet grooming, check up before you adopt them etc etc.

    Although I like one of the cats there, and that I have visited her a few times, I end up dropping the application because I feel that if I get the cats from there, i am indirectly encouraging what they are doing.

    Then there is another one who is doing a lot of publicity, but when it comes to replying my messages,  they don’t seem to be active(as if this is not too much of a priority as well). I sense that the adoption is not a priority for them.

    Then there is this agency that I am currently engaged with. I have went to their adoption day twice, and have spoked to quite  a number of ‘foster parents’, they are very honest and have told me the character of the cat that they are currently fostering. They are all telling different stories and I can sense they think being honest is the best policy to find potential adoptions. They would even have whatsapp support to let you know how to help the cat adapt, and how the cat has been in the foster home. I feel they genuine care about the cats. And the cats are all mixed breed, really one of those who are less preferred in here.

    I feel the whole process is like finding a partner, with hiccups here and there, and finally found a person who seems to be the ‘right person'(still unsure)

    re the volunteering programme. Yes i am excited about it also. I did hesitate for a bit since it is a one year long commitment. But I remember the time when I went solo travelling in south America. From there I learned some ‘fear'(for a lack of a better word) is good and is just because I am going out of my comfort zone, others are actual ‘fear’ that may cause harm.  I think this is a good fear and it’s just me going out of the comfort zone(plus I really the support the cause of this).
    I feel a lot is happening after the breakup, and I am doing a lot of things that i truly want, now that I am not swayed or need to accommodate the needs of another person

    Weather is changing and the autumn breeze feels nice. Hope you have a chance to enjoy the nice weather in this time of the year.

    Clara

    #438938
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    How are you?

    So I spent a Sat morning with this person, she is quite easy to talk to, she seems to be caring and understanding. But I don’t feel any spark, I think we can be friends(and I am happy to be friends with her) for now, i think we will meet up later : )

    Yes I remember the qualities I am looking for now. I am still looking for a pet to adopt, interesting I realized the process is similar. I saw a photo of a cat which is available for adoption. When I went to meet him, he was very nervous, I could not even touch him. That got me thinking: I like him in the photo, but he seems to be so nervous of me, would i be able to handle him?

    It’s like I had sparks, but then the characters seem to be not matching. I guess it can take time for them to warm up, especially he was a stray cat in his early life(his hand was injured a year ago that got him to the shelter), I am pondering on this, on whether I should adopt him and develop (a relationship literally) with him

    I guess I need to choose a cat first, before things get completed, and I need to change the window a bit to prevent them from jumping off the building etc. otherwise, it should be fast

    I also, recently applied to be a volunteer on  a weekly basis, to one of the shelter for children. They are either abandoned/ in foster care, what I will do is, to provide individual attention(and attachment figure i assume) for these kids. I find this really fascinating and this excites me, as I am exploring my attachment and trying to help myself feeling more secure, I got this opportunity to help other human beings become more secure. This came to me as I realized how important attachment is.

    Will update again later, wish you well!

    #438832
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    I am good, thank you for always checking on me 🙂

    Thanks for digging out this post. Because of this I re-read this thread. I realized, my ex has not changed at all. The initial perception of her, not able to be completely honest, emotionally unavailable, actually still existed by the time we broke up. When I read how I wrote what happened then, It sounds like that ‘I’ was more assertive, clear-headed and probably more in-tune my heart. I was in a better state when I was not dating her!

    She probably did open up a bit in between, but that was not long lasting. That was not her. She did it because of me, becuase i wanted clarity, because I wanted more answers/ connectedness from her. It was not a change that came from herself.

    A couple of things happened these days. I dreamed of her breaking up with me twice in the past two weeks, it got me upset for a while, as if my process went backwards. I have been visiting shelters to really want to see if i could adopt a cat or a dog. I started my 10k running plan again. I managed to do headstand which i wanted to do for a while, but didn’t really put effort or engaged in training before my break up. I registered for volunteering.

    The other day I bought my ex a tin of Garrett popcorn and put it in the yoga studios that we go, since the stores are closing in my city. She likes this store very much. I didn’t think too much before I bought this, Initially I thought i wanted to have some sort of process(don’t know, may be talk again?) with this gesture, but later on i realized i don’t need it, or may be i don’t even want it.  I do want her to feel happy or appreciatve towards this, but, she doesn’t need to talk to me. I am happy that she felt happy(which she said so and was thankful for). After that, I felt that I have let go of something, coz i realize, I really don’t need to talk to her.

    Regarding  your last post about my fear of being ‘stuck’. I did ponder on it a bit, i think there is a differnce between getting stuck with something i didn’t like / didn’t choose vs I did. For now, I am choosing my own life so I should be happy sticking with it/them. i did feel a bit loosen up afterwards, which lead me to proceed with my adoption.

    This weekend, I am going to meet with a new person whom i met in a course that i attended a few weeks ago.It was a rainy day and we were outdoor, she approached me with her umbrealla coz i was only wearing raincoat(which was not enough under such heavy rain), that got us start talking, i asked her to see if she wanted to hike another time and she quickly said yes.

    I found her really caring, she asked when i usually wake up so as to decide when we should meet, she is the one who suggested all the restaurants and let me choose. it’s a very different feeling from my ex whom I need to lead a bit more at times. I felt warm and taken care of somehow. I am unsure if she is gay or not, but it definitely feels good to meet a new friend who gives you positive energy. This time I will remember the qualities that i am looking for, honesty, monogamy, straghtforwardness. Let’s see if this goes anywhere.

    Have a great morning on your side

    Clara

    #438485
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Hope you are well 🙂

    Thank you. Yes it is how she operates, the more my distance with her grows, the more I can see it. Yes that is how the pattern is, and she is not able to form a good connection with me with this operational system

    One thing that is bothering me recently: I am trying to adopt and so I went to the adoption centre for a few times. I have found one that interacted with me and I wanted to adopt her.

    After completing the form, a sense of anxious and fear came up, lots of worries, such as would i be able to take care of her? What if I don’t like her after say one or two years, what if my future partner does not like her? What if my parents and she needs my care at the same time?

    These made me so nervous that I was sleepless last night, and thought of withdrawing the application.

    This reminded me last time, like what happened when i planned for my tattoo, i emailed that person, asked about all the details and was so scared that I didn’t do it.

    I started to think this may be a pattern, but I don’t know how to name this.

    Any thoughts?

    Take care

    #438356
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Thank you

    This gave me another perspective. Whatever this is describing, fits what I am experiencing indeed.

    It did create a lot of confusion, and unnecessary pain, for me on the receiving end of the break up. I am aware of my overreacting and insecurity/ attachment style. will continue to practice ways to make myself more stable and regulated.

    I often treasures honesty and directness, I do not like to guess or beat around the bush. I often think this causes more harm. It is often because the person delivering the message does not have enough mental strength/ courage to deliver the message, at the cost of the peace of the recipient. I guess this is also how she draws further, as I often challenge her to talk/ face directly with the situations.

    Thanks, I feel this is clearer again.

    Clara

    #438326
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    Thank you

    I will check the book that you have recommended. I had a busy weekend and I joined a workshop, on how to connect with nature. Observe trees, meditate and do some grounding(imagine being a tree etc). Basically, communicate with trees. I found it quite fascinating as i did feel very energized afterwards. There were also letting go of thoughts and people or things that no longer serve you, some imaginative exercise, which i found it quite helpful also.

    I think she really wanted to break up, maybe 80% of her wanted to break up. But i guess i had been probably clinging onto the 20% of it most of the time, especially in the beginning. If what you said were true, those are just lies(conscious/ unconscious) to make me feel more empathetic towards her/ calmer, I think she really needs therapies to deal with her stuffs. I think there is a difference between being empathetic and understanding when delivering messages which can be  hurtful, and altering the result so that the person feels less as hurt/ sad(aka lie). This is a very ingenuine life that she is living, to herself and others, if this is how she is.

    Take care

    #438252
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita

    I just reposted this, the previous one has a lot of <P> and random alphabets, you can ignore he previous one, the following is the same, thanks.

     

    Dear Anita
    Good to know you are well. Have more sleep if possible. and exercise and eat well. so you have more physical and mental energy for yourself snd those who need you.

    yes i think she represents those inagines. but rather than making it so negatively, i think she represents a life that i aspire to have. having someone who is supportive, willing to stand by you, accepting and caring. realistically, i think she fails in reaching the standard i look for. nonetheless, i still miss the imagination/ image.

    I was re reading some of our conversations recently. i didnt get it very well when you mentioned “breaking up with you is the solution”

    when i sat on it again, i started to understand breaking up is the way out for her to escape her emotions. by breaking up with me and have a convenient reason/ more commonly agreed upon reason that she has lost feelings for me, this allows her to escape from me and thus no need to dig out the way she relates to me and others. thus no need to reflect. 

     

    it makes sense now that she was in such pain: she might not even want the break up to some extend. say i want to run a marathon and got cold feet and just say “ i am not interested its not for me” . this is a lie to myself and the negative feelings associated with me lying to myself, will unconsciously affect me. because what i said and did, was not genuine.

    but of couse, the break up can also be something that she really wanted( then i also cannot fully explain why she is in such a pain after u get something that u realy want, anyways)

    to answer your question: no i do no need for someone to save me. i think i would practice loving myself or my little self more so i feel the warmth and love from inside

    Have a lovely day 
    Clara

    #438246
    Chau
    Participant

    <p class=”p1″>Dear Anita</p>
    <p class=”p1″>Good to know you are well. Have more sleep if possible. and exercise and eat well. so you have more physical and mental energy for yourself snd those who need you.</p>
    <p class=”p1″>yes i think she represents those inagines. but rather than making it so negatively, i think she represents a life that i aspire to have. having someone who is supportive, willing to stand by you, accepting and caring. realistically, i think she fails in reaching the standard i look for. nonetheless, i still miss the imagination/ image.</p>
    <p class=”p1″>I was re reading some of our conversations recently. i didnt get it very well when you mentioned “breaking up with you is the solution”</p>
    <p class=”p1″>when i sat on it again, i started to understand breaking up is the way out for her to escape her emotions. by breaking up with me and have a convenient reason/ more commonly agreed upon reason that she has lost feelings for me, this allows her to escape from me and thus no need to dig out the way she relates to me and others. thus no need to reflect. </p>
    <p class=”p1″>it makes sense now that she was in such pain: she might not even want the break up to some extend. say i want to run a marathon and got cold feet and just say “ i am not interested its not for me” . this is a lie to myself and the negative feelings associated with me lying to myself, will unconsciously affect me. because what i said and did, was not genuine.</p>
    <p class=”p1″>but of couse, the break up can also be something that she really wanted( then i also cannot fully explain why she is in such a pain after u get something that u realy want, anyways)</p>
    <p class=”p1″>to answer your question: no i do no need for someone to save me. i think i would practice loving myself or my little self more so i feel the warmth and love from inside</p>
    <p class=”p1″>Have a lovely day </p>
    <p class=”p1″>Clara</p>

    #438224
    Chau
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thanks again, for digging out the things that I shared some years ago, so I can look at the similarity.

    i wrote something to my little self. telling her I love her the other day.

    I think, we normalize some bad behaviors that do do to people. There are times when I look at my brother interacting with his children, and I thought: may be this is how my own wound at childhood was created. He was not physically abusive or being very rude or rough, but it was the insinuation of the fault that the children made, the causal comments which may be insulting, these are the things that we have normalized. I guess not everyone has a psychology background(which I think we all should have some degree of knowledge) so I understand why. But when I try to pamper or comfort my little self, I realized there are things that I wished someone else could tell me/ did to me, when I was younger, but nobody did.

    I think I am reliving the childhood for a very long period of time, the loneliness, the scare, the threatening environment. I was easily brought back there.

    Honestly, as weird as it sounds, I still want to get in touch with her(may be it’s the ‘miss her’ that i said above). But once I think of the next step, say if she wants to be with me, I actually don’t think I want that, not the person that she still is(I guess one can’t change so much in a month and a half, especially with her avoidance/ distancing behaviors). But that urge, somehow, is still there. I never am able to say : No this person is not good to me so i just shut the door. Somehow, I just can’t do that.

    to think deeper, I actually don’t miss the actual ‘her’. I miss the image of her, the future that ‘her’ may have with me,  the relationship that a ‘her’ could provide. Her, being relatively non-connected emotional, is not something that I miss.

    Hope you are well.

    #438017
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Thank you. Good evening.

    Started from a few days earlier indeed I was not sleeping too well. This morning, I woke up earlier than expected, I can feel the sadness in my chest so I sat with it for a while. Tears flowed out.

    I think I miss her. OR may be I miss having someone by my side. She used to be a stable companions that I could go back to every night. Just in general, a bit down these days.

    I am starting to afraid my adoption is an impulsive act to try to alleviate my sadness only. Given that I can sense that I am still a bit sad and am not in a completely stable state. May be I should visit the centre again, or give it more time before actually adopt.

    #437104
    Chau
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Wish you well.

    Earlier last week I texted her and asked her to take her things back.  She left something in one of the cabinets in my apartment, which she must have missed. I told her I would leave it in the yoga studio where we usually go together. After a week, my teacher was asking if I would take it back next time, meaning she hasn’t taken the stuff away.

    So I texted her early this week, seeing if she would take things back. If not I don’t want to occupy the yoga studio’s space. I also follow up with asking how she would attend the classes further. There were times I wanted to attend the class that we usually attended, but I also understand those might be the only classes that she could go, so I deliberately skipped them. I think I don’t want to just be the one taking care of this: dismissing what I want( to attend certiain class), while she might not need me to do so as she is not going anyways/ might not care etc.

    She suggested some ways and one of which was just to use a google form to write down when we plan to go. I thought it was a bit sad to revert to this, while I thought we could just text each other like normal interaction. So I counter suggested that I would just text her if I want to attend the classes, to which she said ok. Later that night I texted her and said I didn’t even know if she appreicates my initiation, and that I deliberately skipped lessons to give us some space, i said I hoped we could speak like normal eventually. and asked her to let me know what she thinks. At the back of my mind, I think this is familar: She said ‘ok; to smth, and I was to naive to believe that she was ‘ok’ ,  but she wasn’t.

    She then said, she apprecaited it. She also said she was too emotional still and was afraid if any of our conversation went sour, she could not handle, and so she wished to limit the interaction. She said I might think it’s easy for her to move on, but she was still in so much pain.

    So I told her that may be, using google form is a better balance of what I want(attend classes) and what she needs(have limited/ no interaction), so at least she wouldn’t get a random text from me.

    A few days later, my feelings towards this emerged: Why is she in such a pain? did I do something wrong again?(I think that’s my default mode to reflect what i have done and they are usually bad things) I think I knew I didn’t. I think the only thing I did was to protect my boundary: asked her and her stuffs to move away asap, respecting my own needs and right to attend the classes. But seeing her so paralzed , almost unable to talk to me after a month and a half, I feel there is something off, and I really wanted to fix it.

    My friend told me she might not know what she has done, how what she did affect me and how badly she treated me throughout, so when I really stood up for myself, she suddenly realized it was not ok, and that I would set my boundaries all of a sudden once she said she wanted to break up, which shocked her so much. It is entirely possible that if I didn’t do that, she would not feel the impact of the breakup, althoug she chose for herself. So she said it was not on me, she should really feel the pain for what she chose and what she did.

    I still cry, I still miss her sometime. But I now think this is a necessary process for my healing.

    Yesterday I went to the cat adoption centre, There were two cats that I particularly connected with. One is a 2  year old male and the other is a 1 year old girl. The girl has one eye that has problem and not really functioning. I am tryint to find out more medical background(if any), and I am trying to use a week or two , to imagine how it feels like if there is an animal around. Literally picturing an animal walking in my flat. I remember your lesson, and I will try to expect the unexpected, especially these animals came from different backgrounds and they might have various kinds of issues prior.

    Have a good day, take care!

    Clara

     

     

     

    #436985
    Chau
    Participant

    thanks Anita

    have a good night

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