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Adrian, thank you for giving me a little insight to what was going on in your relationship. It is helpful to hear similar stories and relate to them so easily. Lately I have just been getting the feeling that nothing is enough. There is always a fault somewhere and nothing I do will be able to make this person happy. I think coming to this realization will be good for me. I laughed at your story of parking the car because it didn’t matter where we went there was always something said about how and where I parked. I remember when I first met her we parked along a river and her friends owned a home on the other side of it. When we were at the friends house she kept mentioning the way I had parked the night before was not the best place for that campsite. Who cares you know? There was the time we were in public and I tossed a tool in the back of her truck and she yelled, “don’t throw that at me!” I tossed it in the back, not even in her direction. I became nervous and scared of what people around us would think I was doing. It made me nervous and I just got in my truck and left. Just rereading your stories makes me exhausted and i feel the same when I reread mine. She had come home and saw me on the couch with the dogs just being comfortable and immediately started getting angry at me for “not being productive.” She kept going on and on in anger. She walked to the back bedroom and saw that I had folded all of the laundry. She came out and said, “why didn’t you say anything, thank you.” I guess I just wanted to see how angry she was actually going to get over nothing. She never asked me to do that, I guess it was just something that I was supposed to. Thanks again Adrian for taking the time to see the commonalities in our stories. It helps to know that you are doing well and was able to remove yourself from the anger and control.
ColtonParticipantI remember I had injured myself really bad in my neck. On the third day it was the worst and I had just sat down on the recliner to rest before work. She saw me get comfortable and yelled at me that I should be outside doing what she was doing and clean up after the dogs. I said that I was hurting and to just leave me alone. She said that I should have told her that I was hurting or she would not have yelled at me. She told me that if I am good enough to go to work then I am good enough to help with the dogs. I felt like she was only concerned with the chores getting done and did not care that I was in a lot of pain and trying to recover from my injury. There was no caring or willingness to pick up the slack when I was down and injured. She text me at work “I can’t be your doctor, your nurse, your girlfriend, your cook, and do the laundry.” It made me feel like I was a burden in my time of physical pain. I asked her some questions about my injury so I guess that was really hard for her to try and answer some of those for me. I don’t know why it was hard to be my girlfriend but from the text I guess it was. I always try to help with the cooking, and there are probably 4 articles of clothing that get washed there a week. It just irritates me that everything was so hard for her when I was physically hurting. It made me feel like I was not doing enough and not a good boyfriend. There was a time when she was hospitalized and in a lot of pain. I tried to care for her the best I could. I didn’t want her to have to lift a finger but it was not like that for me.
ColtonParticipantAdrian, thank you for taking the time to write this to me, especially since you’re a first time poster. It means a lot. Early on in the relationship it was amazing. There was no disrespect and we had a lot of fun together. I believe around the 5 or 6 month mark I noticed her becoming angry at small things. She got upset in a parking lot when I met her to help her get something from the store. A lot of times I feel like every relationship is difficult and we all go through our ups and downs which makes it difficult to see how bad things actually are. The biggest problem I have is when I try to address my feelings and how I am treated sometimes. I am always met with defensiveness and she is unable to see how her way of treating me is not respectful. I feel like there is a lack of empathy on her part and has an inability to put herself in my shoes. She is very big on respect for herself. If I do something that can offend her or make her upset she will tell me in one second that what I said or did is not ok. I respect her so I always hear her out and apologize and say that I didn’t intend to disrespect her in anyway and that I’ll be more aware of how I can do this and that in the future. On the flip side when I am disrespected and attempting to voice my feelings and frustrations I am given no chance to calmly talk about it before she is getting defensive and coming up with ways that what she did is ok. It’s frustrating. I know both people in a relationship deserve to have their feelings heard and understood so that is one thing that I have a hard time being ok with. Was your girlfriend willing to hear you talk about your feelings when you felt like you were being treated poorly? Did she say hurtful things to you, or make you try to feel insecure? Was there a final tipping point for you where you felt like ok, this girl is not going to change, I have to leave? Sometimes I feel like there is a script that I am supposed to be following and because I never got her script for the play that we are playing out in her mind, I make mistakes and when I do that unintentionally then it is brought to my attention. I always have the feeling like what I am doing is never enough. It doesn’t matter what it is. I could be doing a lot of stuff around the house and the one thing that I forget to do or whatever is brought to my attention. She is a fault finder and always looking for something to tell me that I did wrong. It gets exhausting because I just want to be appreciated.
ColtonParticipantRiris, thank you for your comment. “A healthy relationship makes people happy, without judgement, without laughing at you, without critizism,…” These words go a long way with me and is helpful to see what can be on the other side.
Anita, thank you again for taking the time and clearly identifying the different ways that I am treated. It is painful and eye opening when they are categorized like that and I’m able to see the patterns. When the events of anger/blame take place there is usually a break between the next time and it messes with me because I think that things are ok again and then there’s always something else that happens or pointing out my faults. I was always under the impression that relationships are difficult and we are supposed to get through difficult times but I can see how these patterns of abuse towards me are not going to go away. They may subside for a little bit but they will never go away if she is unwilling to look at her role in them. “When you understandably get angry following her emotional abuse of you, she blames you for having an anger problem. She explains your behavior in whatever way suits her with no regard to what is true. What suits her is to deflect personal responsibility for any wrongdoing on her part and place it with you.” The moment I woke up one morning she was over me in bed and says in a condescending tone “do you know how a hinge works? Did you mean to muscle it closed? Do you need me to show you? And walked out to the backyard to show me what I had done wrong. She said, “that’s how adults talk.” Your comment here really hits home for me because that is exactly how I have been feeling for a long time and have been unable to put it so well. She has never taken personal responsibility for anything as long as we have been together. I appreciate what you said and I know for my own self respect what I need to do. For a long time I have been feeling low about myself and my self respect has dwindled. I have become more frustrated that the disrespect continues and I struggle in my head with how I have allowed it to happen. I try addressing things in a respectful manner but it has gotten me nowhere. I have a lot to offer and I hope one day it can be with someone who is willing to be on my team to enjoy life with. Thank you so so much for helping me understand what is not ok. I honestly was very naive and knew something was wrong but didn’t understand if it was just something that I was supposed to navigate on my own, but with my self respect depleting and your help I know this is not healthy for me.
ColtonParticipantAnita, I forgot to answer your question about looking inward about the unresolved pain i was carrying regarding my dad passing away from cancer and the answer is yes. I started reading books about grieving and forgiving myself for being scared and not being there when he took his last breath. I spoke to my sister and my mom about how each of us dealt with and remember the last moments. its was very therapeutic because we had not spoken about it together since it happened 9 years ago.
ColtonParticipantAnita, thank you for the response. I appreciate it more than you will ever know. I looked up what you said and although I cannot know about some of them on the list, chronic emptiness, and identity disturbance, I do believe that there are signs of five that I know of. She told me enough about her past relationships I could write a book. There was a lot of negative things that took place. There was events that took place that made me confused because she became paranoid about things that I didn’t understand. She thought I colluded with my sister to get my sister to say something to her that would in turn manipulate her. I was offended. My sister and I are not like that and I didn’t understand why I would be perceived like someone who would do this. It was just one example but there were some others. She thought it was strange how I liked to leave for work earlier than what she thought was appropriate. Made her think that I may be going somewhere else beforehand. They were just real small things but I had a hard time understanding what was happening. I was reading about this beyond the list of things they talk a lot about a push and pull phenomenon that I was experiencing and lately it has been nothing but mean things being done towards me, judgments and the inability to do anything right, belittling, and was very uncaring when I was injured. When I was injured I was not as much help as I usually am around the house and the scales were shifting in the amount of weight I was pulling and she was becoming frustrated. I felt like a burden. I think I need to learn more about this and see what I am up against. You mention “There is no personality disorder more harmful in the context of an intimate relationship than this one.” I wonder if there is a spectrum to this because I know she is high functioning I wonder if this is a do-able situation or I am constantly going to be going through the idealization / devalue stages for a long time. Almost at the 6 month mark I mentioned how I couldn’t feel her love for me and didn’t really know how else to express it. I just felt like my value was going down and she was not aware of her actions to be doing that. There was a slight change that happened after but it’s been all bad for awhile now. At what point I wonder that I need to go in another direction?
ColtonParticipantHey Riris, so we have been together for a year and two months now. Her childhood consisted of her mom and dad and an older sister. The mom has has a drinking problem for over 30 years. It has always been an issue even when my girlfriend was young. Her dad didn’t seem to have any issues but ended up having an affair later that was very hard on everyone especially my girlfriend. As they were growing up her sister was very cruel to her and they did not get along. She has had a number of very troubling relationships where her boyfriend at the time left in the middle of the night. Also, there was physical abuse at one point in another relationship and there is a restraining order there.
Anita, Thank you so much for your response, insight and honesty. It is very difficult because she is never able to see what is happening clearly. She got frustrated looking something up on the computer and I saw that she needed help so I got on my phone and looked it up and showed her. She snapped at me and said that my input wasn’t any good. I walked out of the room and she came out and said I was getting angry again. I tried explaining that I was trying to help but she became louder and louder and wouldn’t hear me. The situation calms and the blame for it is put on me. It has become a hit to my self confidence over time. My self respect has been declining and I have not been feelings as good about myself as I generally would. I don’t know why but we have began to think that the reasoning behind this is because of unresolved pain from my dads death years ago. I never really thought it was an issue but it is what she says may be the reason i am feeling so bad. She has suggested a few times that I talk to someone about it. As far as her talking to anyone, I know that she will never think that there are issues she has to work out. Through numerous times of getting angry and blaming I have never seen her look inward, the problems always come from the outside and she is just reacting with honest emotion. I am starting to think a lot about what you said about me not being able to help her. It makes me really sad because I love her, but I hate the way she treats me and isn’t even aware of how it makes me feel.
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