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  • #166808
    Diarmaid
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    Cruzzie,

    You are welcome, happy to help! It really sounds like you are going through a lot of emotional uncertainty right now, maybe speaking to a counselor would be helpful for you. A few things to keep in mind: meditation is a journey. It can be about learning to love yourself, to let go of shame and accept your true self, to forgive yourself. We can treat ourselves quite unkindly and meditation illuminates this, but only by seeing this, can we begin to change, so here the practice is to rejoice that you have the insight to see where you are doing something you don’t like, rather than add additional suffering by  criticizing, shaming or blaming. Sometimes it can be helpful to remember what a good friend, boss, or co-worker would say about us to keep things in perspective.

    What I would encourage right now is for you to remember that you always have choices, and you are choosing to meditate, and to get meditation books (which I am happy to hear!) So it may be helpful to ask yourself why you are meditating. Is it because you love yourself enough and believe you are worth it? Is it because you want to enjoy life rather than survive it? Is it because you believe it is possible to live a meaningful life with considerably less depression? Have you felt hopeful rather than hopeless? When you know why, then you can remind yourself of these reasons to empower yourself.

    For progress, it would depend how you define it (and this is the goal/expectation I was referring to in my first response). From my perspective you are willing to spend time with yourself, which takes a lot of courage, which you are also cultivating. You are persisting even though it hasn’t been easy and have even decided to take initiative and buy books to further educate yourself! You are becoming honest with yourself and asking important questions, to me, how could this not be progress? Ultimately, later on, when you feel ready, it will be helpful to let go of this idea of progress, when the time comes……

    Trust the process you are doing great! Good luck!

    #165394
    Diarmaid
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    Hey Cruzzie,

    I think you are very insightful and doing some serious investigation! Often people who have suffered a lot in life are drawn to meditation and really stick with it because life has provided a rude awakening, and that sounds like what is happening for you, it is called shunyata, or emptiness, groundlessness, or feels like the rug has been pulled out from under you. While it is very scary, and unnerving, it could also be the beginning of a beautiful relationship with yourself, loving and accepting yourself for everything you are with unconditional friendliness and steadfast loyalty no matter what. Initially meditation will make you aware of buried sadness and pain. This pain has always been there but because of the noise in your life/head, (and not being still) it could not be heard or truly felt, but it has been trying to be heard and it would have been showing up (sideways) in your life whether you noticed it or not… So the crying may be healing and cleansing, that needs to take place, but the good news is it is healthy. So initially meditation can bring a lot of confusion and can feel claustrophobic, but this slowly turns into more clear seeing and spaciousness.

    I like that you said fear might as well be your best friend. How would you treat your best friend? Would you smile at them and welcome them in, ask them how they are doing today, offer them a drink, make them comfortable? As you move closer to yourself you are going to experience raw feeling and emotions for sure, but here, the instruction is to drop the story line and stay with the breathe or energy. Remember emotions are just energy we attach a story line to, without the story line the emotion can only last 1min 30s in the body. Try to stay at the pre-verbal level, what is going on there? You may find anxious feeling are actually excitement misinterpreted….

    While I was reading this it immediately reminded me of Rumi, who puts it so beautifully:

    The Guest House

    This being human is a guest house.
    Every morning a new arrival.

    A joy, a depression, a meanness,
    some momentary awareness comes
    as an unexpected visitor.

    Welcome and entertain them all!
    Even if they are a crowd of sorrows,
    who violently sweep your house
    empty of its furniture,
    still, treat each guest honorably.
    He may be clearing you out
    for some new delight.

    The dark thought, the shame, the malice.
    meet them at the door laughing and invite them in.

    Be grateful for whatever comes.
    because each has been sent
    as a guide from beyond.

    — Jellaludin Rumi,

    #165202
    Diarmaid
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    As someone who has meditated for 2 years anywhere from 1-5hrs/day, (so still a newbie), I always go to Pema Chodron when I am confused and she would say this: Why do we meditate? we do not meditate to feel good (shockwaves) if the purpose of meditation was to feel good, most of us would feel we were doing it wrong most of the time!! The purpose it not to feel bad, however, you’ll be glad to know, but rather an open, attentive, compassionate attitude to whatever is going on. Like a big sky, allowing alot of room, for anything to arise, dwell and pass away. Good and comfortable and pleasing and difficult, painful and unwanted, all of this… So the essence is training in something pretty radical and not the habitual pattern of the species, and that is to stay with ourselves no matter what is happening, without putting on top of it good and bad, right and wrong, pure and impure. So if meditation was about just about feeling good, I think all of us secretly hope that is what it is about!! Therefore a very common experience of the meditator is in a typical day when your feeling bored, restless, when your mind is hurting, you feel like you must be doing it wrong, because it is a difficult experience, so that is the main thing to keep in mind!! It is not about feeling good it is about a compassionate openness, or an ability to be with oneself and one’s situation through all kinds of experience. So whatever life presents you with, you are open to that and this is pretty radical!! To this I would add it sounds like you came to meditation with the goal that it would help with your depression, there are no goals in meditation, it is what it is.  So to ask is this good or bad is dualistic thinking, and a form of judging, because of your goal…. I know this was deep, but I hope it helps, my advice is stick with it, it takes a lot of courage to spend time with oneself!!!! Good Luck!

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