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A very aggressive and forceful nature. Name calling, intimidating actions (getting right up in people’s faces, pretending to punch in the face, lunging at people), spitting, blatant defiance, and a lack of desire to be independent. Some of that is normal for 5 year olds still learning how to control their anger, but it’s all behaviour that he displays on a regular basis… As an almost 50 year old.
I do think there is something to that “nature vs nurture” debate
AmyParticipantI don’t know if he said it to get a rise out of me or not. He definitely wasn’t joking though. The thing is though, I believe him. I know his history with alcohol and drug abuse. He began his daily drinking at age 15, and doesn’t see a problem with that. All his friends did the same. It’s his world, and it’s all he knows. It’s this kind of thinking that can be extremely detrimental to my child’s health and wellbeing.
My theory in all of this is that prevention is the key. It’s so much harder to undo things than to prevent them from happening (I’m not saying it’s easy though… Clearly) I don’t want my child to EVER think it’s ok, or normal to behave the way he does. It’s not ok or normal to threaten, intimidate or harass. And it’s not ok or normal to allow yourself to be threatened, intimidated or harassed.
I already see a lot of his attitude and mannerisms in my child. It hurts to see it. A lot.
AmyParticipantId like to avoid specifics, if at all possible. This is a public forum, after all.
I think the fact that he is a drunk, and has actively told me on many occasions that he would support that lifestyle for my child by providing them with alcohol and drugs if they requested it is reason enough for concern.
I do appreciate every word that you type, and I’m glad you can see the complex nature of my situation. I don’t so much think I’m going crazy.
AmyParticipantWhile I have no evidence that will stand up in court that he is abusive and neglectful to my child, I do have my own past personal experience, what I have witnessed, and what my child has told me. So, I know what’s going on, even under the prior “supervision” of his parents (his number 1 enablers). I could not, in good conscience, hand over my child and not feel the need to monitor happenings. Impossible.
His time with her is destructive. Period. As far as I’m concerned the only purpose of his visitations is so my child doesn’t have a gaping hole in her life. I’m reluctant to use the term “father figure”, as he’s far from it. However, I could possibly accept the term “male presence”. Whether I like it or not, he is literally part of my child, and I believe that all children deserve to know their whole family and who their father is. On the other hand, he doesn’t deserve to have the privelage of being called dad.
Ugh! I’m so confused and scared. It’s a no-win situation. Either I or my child loses out. I can’t do that to my baby. The ex will have to kill me.
AmyParticipantSee? Completely stuck with no way out.
AmyParticipantIf I spoke to him and said “hey, I want zero contact with you”, he would be 100% on board IF (and that is a HUGE “IF”) it didn’t interfere in the slightest with his one on one time with his child. In fact, his reasoning for not attending appointments and birthdays and concerts, etc. is because… And I quote; “I never want to ever be where you are”. I’ve spent the last 6 years on his back about his drinking and lack of parental responsibility, so I (sort of) don’t blame him for feeling that way. Every time we talk we fight, and every time it’s about his shortcomings.
The problem is, one of the main reasons I initiated legal proceedings is due to his sudden lack of interest in my child’s life outside his 48 hours of visitation. My case weighs very heavily on that fact. I don’t have any solid evidence of his drinking behaviour, so it’s really all I have to prove he has very little interest in the wellbeing of his child. I can’t very well go in there and say “I want him to be more involved with my child’s life, BUT, I don’t want him to attend any special events where I will be present… It just doesn’t make any sense, because I have been at all past, and WILL be at all future events. Then there’s drop offs and pick ups, phone conversations, etc. unless I have a restraining or intervention order on him, I have no choice.
AmyParticipantThank you.
I agree with you 100%. However, so far no one (professional or otherwise) has given me any indication that this is even possible. My lawyer is essentially guiding me in the direction of getting him help so that he can be a “good enough” father to my child, because at the end of the day the courts ultimate goal is for the child to have a significant relationship with both parents, and if it goes to court, that will be the eventual outcome. I will still have to deal with him on some level.
The only thing will get rid of him is for him to make that decision himself, and sign away his parental rights. And I’m 99.999% sure that’s not going to happen. If nothing else, his parents won’t let him do that.
AmyParticipantNo, I’ve never felt the need, or tried this hard to get away from someone. That said, I’ve never felt/been this trapped either. When I said earlier that I felt shackled to this person, I wasn’t exaggerating.
I think that if there were to be no legal repercussions, I would absolutely keep my child from him in a heartbeat. The fact is, if I do that I could lose my child. Any control I have over their wellbeing would be taken out of my hands and placed in the hands of someone who doesn’t know me, doesnt know him, doesn’t know my child, and doesn’t fully know the situation – the court system. I don’t know for sure if he would take me to court over it, but I do know that I simply cannot take that risk. I’m damned if I do, damned if I don’t and THAT is the hardest thing to accept. I’m constantly looking for loopholes or at least some sort of way out, and I HATE that I have to do this all because of his actions. I take responsibility for my part in bringing my child into the world with a worthless man, but I cannot control his side of the situation.
AmyParticipantAh, see, in the past my go-to tactic was to run away. Stressed out at my job? Quit. Unhappy in a relationship? Bail. Friends being nasty and vindictive? Cut off contact. I was always able to get a new job, a new man, new friends as there was literally nothing tying me to any of those things. There were no repercussions, and these things simply disappeared from my life. No mess and minimal fuss.
I can’t apply that tactic in this scenario. He even infiltrated my dreams last night. Actually, he wasn’t even a key feature in my dream. It was mostly about the girlfriend.
We were working together, and she had her newborn baby with him at work with her. She was ignoring the child and begging for people to help her. At one point while I was changing the baby’s diaper for her, she kept saying “you need to help me. He’s drinking too much and abusing me and my child”. I kept shaking my head at her and saying “I told you so. I warned you, but you wouldn’t listen to me. He will kill you one day, and it will be your own fault. You’re too difficult (which is still to this day his excuse for abusing me). You’ll never get rid of him. He’s herpes personified (lol! – Even in my dreams I’m hilarious). You got yourself into this mess, you get yourself out of it.”
Needless to say I woke up from that dream with a huge “woah!”. The way I interpret the dream is that I played the role of my own subconscious, and she was me. Even my subconscious thinks I’m screwed. It’s not just a surface problem, it’s deeply, deeply ingrained.Meditation, yoga, going for a long walk isn’t going to change anything. I’ve tried the meditation and walking several times, and all it does is give me more time to think and dwell. I also have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which means I pay for any energy I Use for days afterwards. That includes emotional energy. As you can see, I’m in a vicious cycle that I can’t break. Even my social worker gave up on me after 6 months. Her words were “I don’t know how to help you anymore”. That’s pretty discouraging to hear. A professional person, whose JOB it is to help can’t even help me. I have to do this all alone, which is what brought me here.
I guess I have no choice anymore but to accept it. To “give up”, so to speak. I’ve lost 6 years of my life, and so much more trying to fight. I did all I could. I just can’t protect my child anymore.
AmyParticipantSo now back to my original question: How do I go about doing these things?
AmyParticipantWell, whatever strength you think I may have disappeared pretty quickly. Those last few days I was fuelled by that anger. Now, I’ve hit another brick wall, and no matter how close I think I am to ending this Hell, he throws me another curveball. How can I accept it when he keeps on keeping on? Don’t get me wrong, the anger is still there, but there’s only so much time the body can keep pumping out adrenaline before you crash.
I’d like to go 1 day without stewing over this mess I seem to have gotten myself into. Just one. I was in hospital today (yesterday? I don’t even know anymore) and my phone rings. It was him. Out of all days and all times, he calls me at my weakest and most vulnerable point. I wasn’t even focused on him for the first time in forever, and he still managed to weasel his way into my mind. Like, “Hey! I can sense I’m slipping from your mind. Just a reminder that I’m not going anywhere, and there’s nothing you can do about it”. Coincidence? I don’t know. I feel like the universe is trying to tell me something.
AmyParticipantMaybe meek wasn’t the best Word choice. I don’t know. I feel that way. Weak. Intimidated. Powerless.
I agree that there’s not a lot of emotional acceptance of the situation in me. I’m still (6 years later) in “omg, I can’t believe this is happening to me” mode. I dont WANT to accept the situation, because its so effing depressing. The second I stop trying to make things better, and pushing for resolution, it’s game over. I do not want this life. This is not who Amy is supposed to be. I have a chain around my ankle, which is stopping me and my child from flying. I can reach for the skies, but know I’m not going to get off the ground.
I just can’t accept that this is my life and this is who I am now. I can’t.
AmyParticipantHi Anita
Yes, you’ve pretty much summed it all up.The honesty and clarity comes from the fact that I WANT things to change. To not be these things is fooling myself. It is what it is and I am not delusional (I don’t think) about the reality of the situation.
I can accept that this is my life, and that is what makes me so depressed. That I have to – no, am FORCED to – resign myself to a life with no momentum. I’m grieving for the loss of everything I valued. Somewhere along the line, the very things that defined me as my own person faded away. I’ve changed and absolutely hate who I’ve become. I went from a strong, independent, kind and loving person to a meek, fragile, angry and terrified one.
I’m interested to hear what else you have to say.
AmyParticipantI’d also like to add as an afterthought (I’ve calmed down a bit now lol), that I think there’s a lot of grief hidden in there as well. I feel like I destroyed my only opportunity to have a solid family. I don’t feel like I could possibly go into another relationship, let alone find that elusive person who would not only love me, but the extra baggage of my kid who is not theirs. I fear for how my child would react to having to share me with someone, after X amount of years of having me to himself. I don’t trust men anymore (this could perhaps be where my dad indiscretions comes into it), and I don’t trust myself to choose the right man.
I had always imagined my children to have mom and dad together, celebrating achievements, sharing tears, travelling together, etc. My child will never have a full blooded sibling (never even have any siblings – on my part anyway). That is no longer a reality. It may not seem like such a big deal to some, but it is to me. Now the best I can hope for is a blended family. I’d also like to add that there’s nothing wrong with blended families. It’s just not what I’m used to and not something I wanted for myself. I actually don’t even think I know any blended families… Wow, that’s weird for this day and age. Maybe I’m more sheltered than I thought.
Yep. Definitely grieving over the loss of that dream.
AmyParticipantI have no idea how to answer that question. I can’t personally see a connection, but I guess that doesn’t mean there isn’t one. I’ve never really dwelled on the whole affair thing.
I’ve just spent the last hour typing and deleting, typing and deleting. I really don’t know what else I can tell you. I’m just stuck and helpless to do anything. I can’t change the past, and I can’t move forward without considering him as well. If I want to move, I have to tell him. If I get a job, I have to tell him. If I get a partner, I have to tell him. Yet, he doesn’t have to do squat (well, he should, but he doesn’t bother).
I’m the one who gave up literally everything for our child – he gave up nothing. I’m the one who made the effort and broke my own back bending over backwards to ensure a solid relationship between him and his child – He did nothing. I’m the one who instills morals and values and supports age-appropriate boundaries – He just “wants to be his best friend”. I go to concerts, awards nights, exams, parent-teacher interviews, birthdays, play dates, Drs appointments – I don’t suppose I need to tell you how many of those he’s attended in the last 12 months. Yet, he wants to sit there and tell me he loves his child, and he’d “do anything for him”. I say BS! THIS is why I’m angry. He gets to do whatever the *blank* he likes, whenever he likes, and throw his money away of drugs, alcohol and women while I have a car that breaks down every 5 minutes, still wear my pregnancy clothes because All of my clothing budget goes on my child who has a growth spurt every 6 months, have to fight off debt collectors with a stick on a daily basis, and generally can barely get my foot out of the door most days. As far as I’m concerned, he has absolutely no right to call himself “daddy”, but legally, I can do SFA about it.
I feel like I’m just another example how the person who does the right thing gets beaten with a stick, and the one who’s in the wrong comes out on top. I absolutely loathe what he is doing to my child, and it’s putting so much pressure on me to pick up the slack. I’m not Supermom, but I feel like I need to be and that is way too much pressure for such a fragile person.I’m sorry for that little outburst, but that pretty much sums up where my anger is sitting right now.
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