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February 9, 2019 at 11:48 pm in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #279485HellaParticipant
Brandy,
Yes, I am getting a lot of good advice. I am so grateful to have all this input!!
And yes, it obviously meant more to me than to him. I’m mad at how he’s been handling things whilst with her. Everytime I’ve met him it’s been the same flirtation from him, compliments about my appearance etc etc. Once or twice we almost ended up sleeping together, and he didn’t say a word about still being with her until we almost had sex, whilst the next minute he lets me know I should be careful about what I’M doing since he has a girlfriend. When it’s really he that has no self-control. This has really messed with my sense of closure and it not meaning anything to him. So yes, it has been hard to accept that he doesn’t care about me. Mixed signals and no accountability.
February 9, 2019 at 12:21 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #279389HellaParticipantValora,
“I think it might help you work through this if maybe if you reframe the situation in your mind to accept more of the responsibility for how you’re feeling rather than saying HE made you feel this way, because you are also part responsible for what is happening now for choosing to date within your friend group and you’re also responsible for how you perceive things (and usually it’s our own perceptions that play into our emotions)… so you might be really angry with yourself for putting yourself in this position in the first place. ”
This is what I am really trying to do now. And honestly, I have been rebuilding myself continuously for years in the same city, but that takes time. When he and I started dating it was such a natural inviting environment to be in and to get to know many people in a fast way. I literally felt like a rug had been pulled from underneath me when it was over and I was supposed to somehow find myself alone in this group which contained mainly his acquaintances (not all friends, maybe superficially). I think I clung on to him after the break-up because I didn’t know where to go, and looking back that was a terrible idea. He was never someone I should have had as a friend after the break-up, it was way too painful and still is. I think that messed with my expectations of him, that because we were in this grey area of friendship and sleeping together for way longer than having an actual relationship, I relied on him and yes, had expectations of him.
February 9, 2019 at 12:07 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #279387HellaParticipantHi Anita,
I am honestly just trying to find ways out of victimhood, trying to change the way I think about myself in this. I obviously don’t want to be a victim just because I’m the one with feelings and he’s not seemingly, but I haven’t yet mastered a way where I feel like I’m better off without all that I left behind.
February 9, 2019 at 12:03 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #279385HellaParticipantHi Brandy,
Thanks for replying. One thing that I think I need to explain is that this friend group also has arms and legs and is more of a social circle of around maybe 100-200 people. It’s not that big of a city so it’s very easy for people to get acquainted through mutual friends, certain music events etc. He’s an uber social person in these specific contexts, so wherever I go there is someone that he knows. I just feel like it’s effed up (for a lack of a better word) that I should have to move to another city in order to feel secure and away from him, whilst he barely understands or reflects on the consequences of his actions. I mean this is what builds the rage in me. That I am moving away to avoid one person and all the people that I associate with him, and thereby also losing my priorities of what I want in life. I feel like these emotions have taken over every aspect of my life, even professional life. I don’t know how to trust my gut about anything anymore, and I feel lost about where I’m going. And I’ not getting any younger, so I just feel a stress building up all the time because I’m not moving on from the feelings I have in regards to what happened between him and I.
February 7, 2019 at 5:16 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #279139HellaParticipantValeria,
No worries. No, I would say we both integrated into it before we started dating. So by the look of it, it was an equal starting field, whereas now it’s absolutely not. He owns it.
February 6, 2019 at 11:25 pm in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #279101HellaParticipantHi Mark,
This is all true except for the girlfriend who is not part of the group. She lives in another country but they visit each other (as I understand it). So yeah, it is hard to move on, I feel like I need to recreate my social life in so many ways. I always feel uncomfortable when he’s around in common circles but now I also have to fear that she’s going to appear somewhere with him as well. I don’t think he understands the kind of domino effect he’s created. I’m the one that has to change my life on so many levels, whilst he just lives on.
February 6, 2019 at 3:43 pm in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #279057HellaParticipantAnita,
There were some things that were different with him than others before him. He was the first guy of my age, from the same country who had also travelled and lived abroad, had the same outlook and ambitions, curiosity about life and other cultures. We just clicked on spontaneity, wanting to go out and socialize and I guess got hooked on curiosity about each other. We met through a friend/acquaintance group and we kind of took it slow, had a long flirt before something ever happened between us physically. Not to get too romantic, but it was almost like we already knew about our mutual like for each other before articulating anything and yet it was so fast. Like mentioned earlier, I was a bit slower to act on anything, while he was ready to go quite fast.
He is also special to me because he was the first person I shared sexual experiences with with such mutual attraction and intimacy. It was always special to me to be with him, and I always felt very vulnerable with him because of that. I guess I thought I had found something that would last way way longer than it did because of these factors.
February 6, 2019 at 9:34 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278989HellaParticipantAnita,
Yes, I think that could be a possibility, she doesnt require a lot of work or attention etc etc… So I am probably just banging my head against the wall. It’s who he is, and I have been hoping that he could be different because we had such an intense connection. It just makes me sad that he wasn’t willing to do more for us to work.
February 6, 2019 at 8:59 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278977HellaParticipantAnita,
You are right, we don’t choose our emotions. One thing I am having trouble with when moving forward is the fact that despite all, I am not sure he is NOT the one for me. Just because it didn’t work out doesn’t mean the connection we had wasn’t amazing. It scares me to move away from that into something less amazing, and/or not knowing if there is anything better in terms of chemistry and fun. I guess that’s why it bothers me so much that even though he felt intense emotions (I know he did, he let me know many times and it was kind of evident), I still wasn’t good enough for him to be in a relationship with and he would rather be with someone else that he already had developed a connection to previously. And the only thing I get from that is that it wasn’t enough for him. Which to me translates I wasn’t enough for him.
February 6, 2019 at 8:32 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278969HellaParticipantAnita,
I don’t know.. I have two quite unforgiving sisters. However, I don’t know if they should be dragged for this.
One thing is that I always knew he was going to be bad for me, ALWAYS. It was almost like I was looking to prove it, and then later prove it wrong. And because I knew he was going to be bad, I feel in a way less entitled to harbor these feelings. I was complicit from the beginning in a way but of course I still don’t think he has the right to do the things he did. It just is complicated when intellectually you have all these observations and yet with your emotions you give in to someone. It just doesn’t make sense when it’ all over.
February 6, 2019 at 8:07 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278951HellaParticipantAnita,
No, it’s specifically with him. And I guess with the male species in general :/ (But not in relationships)
February 6, 2019 at 7:14 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278935HellaParticipantAnita,
We did have quite a lot of conflicts.. It could be small things, that apparently I asked something the wrong way or claimed something and he wouldn’t stop pushing me on it, to explain myself or basically making me feel like what I said was wrong or to make me admit that I didn’t know what I was talking about. It could also be from my side that he was constantly wanting to go out, I mean every Friday and Saturday, all-nighters, and also during some weekdays. I felt (rightfully so) neglected and after a while a bit burned out, so I would try and make him see my side of things to which he would just say I could go home earlier and he would come later. No compromise there.
Well, to me, silencing someone by not acknowledging their emotions or reactions to what they do, i.e ghosting and gaslighting them, are ways to create a narrative as well. Silencing someone’s feelings gives you power over a narrative. In this case it was basically me not having any rights to have feelings or emotions of anger or frustration or whatever negative since we were not an exclusive couple any longer. Even though we were still sleeping together, going out etc. Basically minimizing the time I invested in us. He’s a very, very manipulative person in this way, and it is actually quite likely that he doesn’t understand that he is some of the time. This behavior just kind of runs on autopilot.
February 6, 2019 at 2:20 am in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278905HellaParticipantMichelle,
Yes, it is what it is and I go back and forth in my emotions and views of myself so much aswell.Some days I am filled with compassion for my own choices, the next day I despise the fact that I still would feel the same knowing that he was around the corner. It is a fact that I still feel weak in his presence, and that he has that power over me.
February 5, 2019 at 1:39 pm in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278839HellaParticipantAnita:
I know in order for him to move on with his life and make sense of his decision to go back to his ex, he apparently needs to compartmentalize what happened with me and categorize me as an “other” in front of our friends. That’s what hurts and that’s what is embarrassing to me. It erases what we had. I feel like I’ve just helped him on the ride back to his old girlfriend. Sort of like without me he wouldn’t be with her now, I became the glue for them to stay together.
His presence in the group is quite strong, but I’m not a pushover or silent person either. I’m definitely not usually the one to stay back, especially if someone is starting to have bullyish behaviour. So this whole thing perplexes me, since all of a sudden I’m the one that’s being manipulated and made to feel insignificant. I guess I wish someone else had the guts to stand up to him and support me instead of silently supporting him. I’ve felt too weak because of him for a long time (due to my emotions).
February 5, 2019 at 1:29 pm in reply to: How to deal with emotions past rocky on-and-off relationship? #278837HellaParticipantInky:
His current girlfriend is not in fact a part of the same friend group, she lives in another country and they met when they were both exchange students years ago… I know she has visited here though a couple of times and they have been out to places where he and I have been. Just the thought of her coming to something that my (and his) friends are throwing, gives me the creeps and… yeah, I don’t think I could handle those feelings at all.
Truthfully, it seems a lot more likely that even though him and I had chemistry for a long time and developed some serious feelings for each other, his real true love is his current girlfriend. And yeah, that’s the confusing part. I guess it’s highly possible for someone to feel strongly for two people, it’s not the first time in history… I guess I should not make myself more of a victim in this than necessary. I just wish I had what he has, and I thought we could have. Until then I don’t really want to hang out with our common friend group, even though it sucks declining invitations and missing out on fun times.
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