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    Shelby,

    It may well be linked to your hormones but the fact that you are approaching it the way that you are is incredible. One step at a time, dealing with the moment rather than dwelling on what is to come next. That is major progress.

    Yes exactly. He has already expressed his remorse etc and at the moment it has not changed anything for me. In fact, I don’t buy it. As sad as it sounds I just do not buy it right now. I understand human beings are complicated creatures who mistakes at the best of times, but conscious choices that you do not seem to learn from are not those. They are perhaps a part of the persons personality, intentions or whatever else. I am not interested in hearing the reasoning behind things right now. I am angry, hurt and feel absolutely betrayed. That isn’t shifting right now so as much as I would love nothing more than to reach out to him, there is no use in that.

    I am yet again in one of my lower moments, journaling every moment I can to refrain from contact. It is beyond my understanding why I would even want to contact him right now. Silly if you ask me.

    I bought an inspirational 2019 diary a few weeks back that I forgot about and came across yesterday. It is crazy because in the first week of January (and I had written this at some point in October maybe) I put my motivational quote for the week as ‘Every end is a new beginning’.. well ain’t that the truth!

    This week it is ‘People change, that’s a fact of life. Sometimes we have to accept that the person we once loved no longer exists though their heart beats on and their lungs draw breath’. Just a little reminder to myself. I am also trying to remind myself that his actions do not reflect on me but completely on him. It is not my fault.

    Did you manage to find a new hair dresser in the end? I remember you saying you needed to change as your previous was in your ex’s area. I will be going to get my nails done today and then my friend will be coming to stay the night with me. We will probably get a workout in and have a few drinks as we do. I have also scheduled myself in for a consultation tomorrow for non-surgical nose reshaping. Something I’ve been wanting to do for as long as I can remember but always put off. I thought why not! Maybe it’ll boost my confidence a little bit? I am trying to put as much effort into my self at the moment, exercising, eating healthy, booking in facials etc, actually going to schedule an appointment for the doctors to deal with my extreme breakouts of acne now! Gotta start somewhere.

    I guess I am just trying to keep busy, distracted, and to do as much for myself as I possibly can!

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    Psychology is indeed quite fascinating. I actually even studied it for two years back in my college days and it is mind blowing what our brains are capable of. You are more than capable of coming off of the anti anxiety medication and even maybe lessening your therapy sessions a little. Take as much time as you need. You’re doing extremely well and you WILL get through this. I just know it.

    As it is still the beginning of my therapy journey, I feel I am only settling in. Although the environment is 100% comfortable and I do feel it is one of the very few places I am happy to discuss my trauma, I do somewhat still withhold because maybe I feel ashamed or embarrassed? Those are hard feelings to move past from.

    I understand you may be missing your ex. That is completely normal and natural. But the way you miss your ex now and the way you missed your ex only a few weeks ago, I can see a complete difference. Back then it was the end of your world, how could you possibly go on, you’re unhappy. Now it’s a simple acknowledgement of my heart feels a little heavy right now, I miss him, but I am nor here or there. I will accept these feelings and tomorrow is a new day. The intensity of it has shifted.

    I had two minor breakdowns today. One right after work when I got home and found myself with nothing to do and I wanted to reach out to him so bad. But not even to start a line of communication, rather it was to ask why? Why did you do all of this? How could you hurt me this way? And to dig him out for no longer being the man that I loved and trusted with my life. Everything I have already said to him and there is absolutely no need for saying it all again. Even more so, there is no need for opening up a line of emotional conversation with him when I know full well that I can’t handle his apologies, pleading and crying right now. So I settled for journaling instead, had a bath, went to do a food shop, worked out etc. And again had another one of those moments 30 or so minutes ago, again when I am no longer busy and have settled for the evening, this time everything is replaying in my head, I feel angry, betrayed, hurt, worthless. I want to text him. I want him to know that I am feeling all those things. But I rationally explained to myself that right now, me reaching out isn’t going to change anything, especially not how I am feeling in this present moment, so again I settled for journaling. Well bloody done to me!!

    Now that you mention it, I have often wondered about PTSD and all of the persistent symptoms etc apply. But as I have never seen a doctor or anyone around this I haven’t been diagnosed. I don’t want to go and speak to my doctor about my struggles, probably one of the reasons I haven’t reached out for help via anti depressants.  But perhaps if my therapy sessions aren’t helping in the long run then it will be something that I will have to explore in order to move forward in my life, because I do want to move forward more than anything. I just want to be far away from where I am right now in terms of emotional/mental state.

    I can’t quite see the progress I have made but it is reassuring to hear that you can. I hope to continue making progress and come out of this the other end just like Melanie. There were a few hiccups along the way and undoubtably there will be more hiccups which I will have to get through but I will get there. I have one life. I most definitely don’t want to live it this way for the rest of my days.

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    It is good that you are able to feel and see your emotions through at this stage. Seems that you are taking your own advice on this, the only way is through it! You’re not fighting it anymore and now your mind and soul are giving you some time off from feeling the constant misery – that is amazing!

    Your therapist honestly never fails to inspire me in ways. There are many things you mentioned here and I’m like that makes total sense! I am probably trying to protect myself from the pain also – by avoiding any kind of conversation with anyone or anything about the trauma, including my family.

    The trauma has made me take on a shut down approach as means of coping and it is affecting all aspects of my life. It is something I have discussed with my therapist and apparently is a very real thing, it is an instinct that kicks in to protect us from excruciating pain. You hear of many stories of trauma survivors where they actually confess that their brains have completely blocked out the trauma or any details around it, again, that is your brain protecting you. Fortunately or unfortunately I remember everything very clearly, I have just gotten extremely good at blocking it out. And if a situation arises which triggers reminders, or my gut feels I am going to get hurt I go into complete shut down mode.

    Perhaps the reason why I am able to go through it in therapy is because I feel safe? Because there are no trigger warnings or fear, I know this person is there to help me. I’m hoping that with continuous therapy I will learn better, more fulfilling coping mechanisms, ones which will help me deal in all situations in life rather than avoid situations so not to get burned.

    I have no doubt that the date will be hard for me. It is most definitely something that I will never ever forget and will take with me to my grave. But with time I hope to learn to live with it and not let it take over my life. I am however hoping that it won’t be as bad as I am preparing for. Nevertheless, best to prepare for the absolute worst.

    I just want to say again, Shelby, only a few weeks ago you were frustrated and the lack of progress in your recovery but you do not realise just how much progress you have actually made. You are able to be rational with yourself, you are able not to act on impulse, in fact, like you said ‘if I don’t feel like contacting him this week, so be it’.. You’re accepting your feelings. You’re accepting that although somewhere in your mind you have that nagging voice I WANT TO BE WITH HIM you actually don’t particularly want or need to speak to him at present moment. It isn’t a necessity. That is huge. You’re looking inwards for answers rather than trying to find them out there in the world and coming to conclusions such as ‘I want to be stronger’. I feel as though the last few weeks have been an absolute breakthrough for you and I am SO happy to hear!

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    You most definitely have progressed. It is not to say that that need to be with your ex has disappeared, it may well still be there but your approach to it has altered. Right now it is about you and you first. YOU want to be stronger whatever the outcome with your ex and that is major progress. I am so glad to hear this! You are doing so so so well!

    It is lovely to hear that your sister was and still is a major support network for you. I suppose in a way maybe my family would do the same but yes like you say, I am putting their needs before mine. Despite the real struggle that I am going through I believe I can handle this better than them maybe, I don’t want to cause them any more pain by re-opening wounds. What if they too are struggling and I just don’t know about it? It’s a tough one because when it comes to the trauma, honestly, I can only openly discuss this with my ex and my therapist. Even my most supportive friend when she opens up the conversation I shut down. I don’t mean to but it is still just very raw and i’d rather avoid the conversation all together, goes back to my coping mechanism of shutting everything out.

    Probably the reason why I can speak to my ex is 1.) he was the only other person who truly experienced this with me 2.) I guess somewhere in myself I blame him for a lot of it. So it is easier to express the pain to him knowing that I can also let it be known that I believe he is to blame (he is not fully, and I am aware of that) I just think when you are hurting it is easier to shift blame maybe?

    I am hoping you are right in that this date will come and go, and will be tough but not as tough as I am maybe preparing myself for.

    Kkasxo
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    Michelle,

    My family members were all witness to everything that was happening over the summer so they are very aware. But at the time although the situation was deeply personal to me and me only, I felt I was also responsible for their hurt, to see me hurt. I felt almost as though a part of me died, but also parts of them and that was very painful to watch as they cried with me, held me and kept me alive by all means necessary for weeks on end. For that reason, the topic is a complete no go for me and I will not discuss with them – to prevent them any more hurt. According to them I am alive, kicking and well. Although they know me very well and are aware I am attending therapy so they probably know I am struggling in one way or another however I do believe they think i’m doing much better than I actually am. Perhaps out of respect or to not bring up any traumatic memories for me they too keep quiet and let me get on with things.. Nonetheless, it is definitely not something I want them to experience in any way as it is too painful. So much so that I will be going away for that date and a few days following the date. With him (which was the original plan) or without him I need to be away, in my own space, in my own privacy to go through this whichever way it decides to go.

    I think I just need to get through this first date by all means necessary. I need to do whatever I possibly can to make it as comfortable as possible for myself because I am aware that I have been in a really dark place before. Maybe the date itself won’t be so painful in the following years.. Once I’ve done that first hurdle. No clue.

     

     

     

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    You are right in saying that we need time apart to heal on our own – I just wonder if now is the time for this or rather if I should wait until after the significant date passes.. I have been discussing the particular date with my therapist since last month actually, so she knows that it is sitting in my subconscious heavy and perhaps is another reason for my constant emotional up and down. It is terrifying to know that I don’t actually know how I will respond on the day. And knowing just how bad I can actually get and that scared the sh** out of me and what pushed me to seek help in the first place, maybe he at the moment for me is that comfort blanket that right now I still need. I don’t know.

    Apart from that, the romantic relationship as it stands in this moment needs to not continue. Like you say, not to say we cannot reconcile in the future but right now it is doing more damage than good – I know that.

    I don’t think you realise just how far you have come to be able to say that you WANT to get back with your ex but even if the opportunity came along you would like to be in a completely different mind space, self sufficient before you do. That is major. Just a few weeks ago you would’ve jumped at any opportunity whenever, wherever! Fear or no fear you would’ve gone straight for it. Now you are really questioning whether just because you want something, is it truly good for you in the here and now? That is incredible. Honestly, you should be extremely proud of yourself!

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    I am so glad to hear that you have managed to keep Martha at a distance! My Martha equivalent is literally beating the crap out of me at the moment. As I read more and more into Trauma Bonding I think I am more and more in shock. How did I get here?!

    As I continue to struggle to understand myself, I am trying to do as much reading as possible to explore different ideas. Some I can most definitely relate to and are a real eye opener. So for now I will continue exploring.. 

    I think trauma does really change people, it has definitely changed me and it has changed him for the worse. I am lost, he is too. He has admitted that several times, that he underestimated just how much things have affected him. Often, not even in the worst of situations he struggled to find a reason for his certain behaviours/reactions. He admitted that he feels lost, that he cant quite grasp his way of thinking or doing right now and even went as far as saying that he would like to maybe attend therapy too. I have this major longing and crazy belief that after the beautiful years we had together, we owe it to one another to heal together.. that that is what should’ve happened in the first place, we should’ve never separated and instead go through all of this together and help one another get through it. I know that at this point in time I cannot afford to loose the only source of comfort (him) I have in my dark times. Although they do not come as often as they used to, they do still come and they come in heavy each time. Maybe he feels the same? Maybe none of this is love anymore. Maybe we have both outgrown the idea of us ever really reconciling the romantic relationship but we just have this unhealthy bond with one another because of the trauma and all the effects of this on our lives in the here and now.

    It almost feels like we are both in a world where it is just me and him. And only we know the trauma, and only we feel the effects of it and only we can help one another and no other person will quite understand it? I can’t kick the image of who he used to be for many years. How I knew him. I feel guilty for walking away when he may indeed be needing me the most right now because of the trauma, and I get that, because I need him too and I would be devastated if he walked away. How can I fail someone who needs me more than ever? Isn’t that what love, relationships, friendships are supposed to be about? The reality is life is shitty, but sometimes you find people who just ride it out with you regardless of how bad it gets, and eventually you are thankful for those people. How can I decide to not be that person for him?

    But the on the other hand why do I feel personally responsible for his well being when he did exactly that, leave me when I needed him the most? I understand he was dealing with things in his own way at the time but is this just because we are different people and I just would’ve never done that to him? Or is it because I truly love him and he just doesn’t truly love me enough to have stayed?

    Can you tell I’m in absolute overdrive?! I realise I sound like a crazy lady right now.

    I did indeed manage to get myself into work today but I must admit I am doing the absolute bare minimum. I can’t quite focus on work at the moment with everything going on. I did however manage to have a few hours undisturbed sleep last night so that is a start. I haven’t been eating well the last week or so. In fact, I had to remind myself to eat something yesterday at 8pm because I realised I hadn’t eaten at all! I have been suffering with terrible acne for the past two weeks or so also (I have always had perfectly clear skin), my body is really starting to show the signs of distress now.

    Throughout my communication with my friend yesterday I said to her, ‘I do not recall my split from my ex (partner I had before this) ever ever everrrrrrrrrr being even remotely close to this’. Granted, I was young and thought I was in love, it was love to me at the time, but it was never my future so maybe that was the reason why I didn’t suffer when letting go. Or maybe it is really the truma and the idea of isolation, that only me and him have this unspeakable bond because we are the only ones who truly understand because experienced this together that is making this so complex.

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby & Michelle,

    It is true, my internal voice has been giving me a beating for some time now, particularly since I officially said enough. I can’t seem to stop beating myself up because how could I possibly even still be considering to try and view the world from his perspective when I KNOW he is no good for me. That to me is pure stupidity and I am so utterly embarrassed that I honestly would not even own up to this to many of my friends.

    When discussing the events with my friend I acknowledged the fact that neither me or him are the same person we were prior to the trauma. The reality is it has affected us and changed us. Being the head strong, confident and outgoing woman that I am I cannot understand how I even got myself into this wholly dependant position, whilst he clearly went from loving, caring considerate to a complete self-destructive car crash. Our relationship did not look anything like this!! We were not dependant on one another, there was no toxicity, there was nothing. How did it turn to this?!

    Michelle your input is always always welcome! You have been an absolute sigh of relief for me and give me hope as you have come out of this the other end!  I do think you’re right in saying that my friend is dealing solely with the split from her partner. I am and have been dealing with a trauma that caused me to essentially want to end my life only a few short months ago. It is a lot. And whatever this whole ‘trauma bonding’, the attachment, the fact that I know I need to leave but I cant stop holding on,  whatever coping mechanism my brain has instilled in me is beyond my understanding at this stage.

    Nonetheless, I am going to try to remain head strong for now. I will not contact him for now. I refuse to allow myself to do that. I want to explore this situation with my therapist on Thursday in the hope that I get a bit more insight from a professional but I must admit, I am utterly embarrassed ladies. I think from the trauma onwards is almost like an out of body experience. ‘These things will never happen to me, these things only ever happen to other people!’ Until it hits you like a ton of bricks out of nowhere. I can’t believe I have found myself in such a situation. Me? Who would’ve ever thought.

    Thank you so much for your ongoing support and words of encouragement! I am so grateful!

     

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    Kkasxo
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    Natalie,

    Wow I am in absolute awe of you to have managed to pull through this for the last 15 years, I am absolutely exhausted so I can only imagine how you must be feeling. Although I can understand that probably the idea of leaving (which undoubtably crept up to your mind many times) seemed more devastating than staying in hindsight.

    It is such an extremely difficult situation as our relationship was borderline perfect prior to our first initial split, prior to that traumatic event that took place. It changed me, and it very clearly changed him. The difference is I am trying to heal, I am going to therapy and trying my best to learn to cope whilst he seems to be a complete car crash, taking everything in sight along with him.

    I most definitely do not want to waste so much time on this man. Not the man that he is today. This is not the man that I fell in love with. The Man I was with for three years was kind, caring, oh so considerate, romantic. Not any of what he is now.

    One of my very close friends explored the idea that I may not be able to let go of him just yet because his story in my life is not yet finished. I have a major trigger date soon upcoming and he has always been my source of comfort in dark times, she believes that although I may have outgrown the romantic relationship itself I just cannot afford to take that comfort away from myself because I know where the dark road leads – throughout the summer I was often suicidal and quite frankly it is terrifying! He was the only person at the time who managed to even remotely take me out of that horrible zone. And there may be some sense to that, otherwise holding on is pure stupidity. I read somewhat into this and came across the notion of ‘trauma bonding’ and it was a real slap in the face. Although he has never physically or emotionally abused me per say, the relationship has turned toxic and it is not something that I ever imagined being a part of. Prior to our relationship I was such a strong, worthy, confident woman! I was like that throughout our relationship too – until I needed him like never before and he walked away (around the time of the trauma) and it seems to have triggered all of this now.

    As Mark mentioned, the attachment theory, this crazy and irrational need for him to be around otherwise I will not survive despite knowing better.

    Mark – thank you so much for your words of wisdom. I will most definitely do more reading into the attachment theory and try to explore this with my therapist also. I have an extremely strong feeling that the trauma the two of us experiences has an awful lot to do with the toxicity of the situation and also his constant self destructive pattern (which to me and his family members is completely out of character) and my complete and utter need for him to be in my life (again, out of character for me).

     

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    Further to the above, I have actually done a bit of reading and this notion is actually a real thing and called trauma bonding. (My friend is one intelligent lady clearly!)

    So whilst I sit here pondering at my own god damn stupidity at this point because I swear I actually do know better, I have for a god damn long time, maybe I am not stupid in the end. Maybe trauma is just so complicated and complex that it causes these things to happen.

    I’m going to try and explore this in therapy on Thursday.

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    I guess you’re right. I do need some time out and I am entitled to feeling as shitty as I do.

    I was discussing the whole situation with a friend of mine this morning, the same friend who has been with me through thick and thin throughout the whole thing. She shed some light on the fact that the circumstances around this aren’t exactly not in his favour, what he’s messed up on is the fact that we were already in a very fragile position and (whether that was his reason to whithols truth or not) he did it anyway and as a result abused the trust that was always so unconditional between us in a major way.

    That was a major red flag for me. I still keep replaying all of the truths in my head and I actually had to say aloud at one point today STOP DOING THIS!!! YOU ARE TORTURING YKUESELF, YOU DONT NEED TO TORTURE YOURSELF LIKE THIS!!

    I’ve managed to keep distracted for the day. The morning was probably the worst part of it all as I really felt the pain then more than any other point of the day, to my surprise I even managed to cry a little. My only disappointment is that as the day went on and the anger wasn’t so fresh anymore my pure stupidity, clearly, decided to do the thing I do best, see and understand two sides to the story, analyse, over-think and as a result the feelings of ‘Am I sure this is the right decision for me?’ creeped right back in.

    Again, my friend shed some light on this from a different perspective. Bless her heart considering she really does not approve of him at all at this stage she is trying to be as understanding as she possibly can be. She explained that perhaps the reason why I cannot physically let go at this present moment in time is because maybe his role in my life is not yet finished. For one, going back to the trauma I experienced in June, and with this being only the beginning of my journey to healing from that, I am still somewhat reliant on him to pick me up in the dark moments. And if not pick me up then just be there as he is literally the only person who can get through to me there and then. I realise this sounds so unhealthy but that is literally my truth. It has been like that right from the start. She believes that I have indeed outgrown the relationship itself (hence the lack of energy to put any real work) but I can’t quite afford to let it go just yet so that as I move through my healing I’ll come to my own conclusions and ease away from him – I.e not be so afraid of essentially ending my life if my ‘safeplace’ (him) is not around. I’ll learn ways to be self-sufficient that way on my own.

    Also, there is a major major major trigger date fast approaching for me around the trauma now in the next 3 weeks. I have no real idea how I am going to deal with this. No clue whatsoever. I’ve never had to deal with this before so it is a complete unknown. And knowing just how bad/how low I got over the summer I am simply afraid of that happening again because it was terrifying. So again, at all costs I am trying create a ‘safe space’ for myself to try and get through this time – and at this point in time he is a major part of that. She believes I will be in a much different place this time next year and I will be able to deal with this all by myself and far away from him.

    I didn’t take any of that into consideration. I tend to separate my trauma from my relationship completely forgetting that they are so closely entertained, in fact they branch off of one another so it sounds like a reasonable explanation for this whole ordeal. Other than that it must be pure stupidity. Because I feel stupid.

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    Thank you so much for your kind words. My heart is so heavy right now. Strangely, it is a mixture of extreme pain and almost a numbness, emptiness. One moment I feel it all and the next I am completely blank.

    I exploded yesterday. I really really did. I couldn’t cry, I couldn’t scream or shout but I knew my soul had enough.

    Of course today I am re-living everything and my ex is more than apologetic holding on to hope of an ‘us’ once things have calmed down. Typical. I have promised myself a fair shot. I told him I want absolutely no contact with him for at least the next week whilst I figure stuff out in my head. Again, the tiny little doubt of ARE YOU SURE THIS IS REALLY IT is creeping up and I am beginning to wonder if I am actually normal at this point. Is there anything that this man can actually do to make me walk away? Or have I just become that woman that you always read about and think WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS TO YOUR OWN SELF?!!!!!!!!!

    I met up with a friend this evening who split with her partner of 5 years last week. Don’t get me wrong she is hurt, you can see but she is doing so god damn well. She is really into her spiritualism and the law of the universe and we were discussing the whole thing over dinner and I literally didn’t have a leg to stand on. She said she wants nothing more than to be with her ex, but right now at this point in time she knows it is not right for them to be together, she knows that, her gut is telling her that, so she broke things off. I asked her that taking into consideration that she loves him and actually wants a future with this man is she not worried that allowing him all this time on his own and actually the push and idea to move on away from one another will mean that they will never reconcile a relationship and actually do go their separate ways? Her answer was so clear cut. ‘If there is a point in my life where I feel it is right to get back with him, and my gut, my soul, my heart yearns for him and I knock on that door and it is closed, then it was never meant to be in the first place and I saved myself a lot of heartache in the long run.’

    Just like that. That simple.

    And yet here I am broken to what feels like beyond repair and now the anger is wearing off my doubt around my decision is creeping in and although I was sure sure yesterday, I no longer am. I am so disappointed with myself to even have those thoughts creep up in my head after everything. I am beyond words.

    Kkasxo
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    Michelle,

    Trust me I do not feel brave right now. It wasn’t even a choice I wanted to make, it was one I had to make as his stories no longer added up and everything was becoming a real mess. When I realised that for whatever reason he may have had, he got caught up in all the lies and holding onto him meant that I will forever question everything. I will forever seek extra reassurance to feel secure, my heart and soul will never be calm.

    I feel I am still in a state of shock. I actually woke up crying from my short sleep because I dreamt of everything and I said to myself aloud, ‘You do not need to do this to yourself. Stop re-living the past. You can’t change it. Stop torturing yourseld’ I can’t tell you if it worked or not but I’ll try anything at this stage.

    I don’t think reality has really hit me yet. I feel abdeep ingrained sadness. Like my chest is closing in on me and I can’t realky breathe properly.

    Kkasxo
    Participant

    Shelby & Michelle,

    I think this evening was definitely the last straw for me. The dishonesty is too much. I have chosen to let go..

    I am broken beyond words.

    Kkasxo
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    Shelby,

    I do think there is a mutual understanding for the issues that need to be discussed, dealt with and moved forward from. The problem lies with the fact that he chose not to take the opportunity to come clean when we had that initial conversation right at the start, he chose to withhold information that he knew would make him look the bad guy there and then, but he also knew that they would eventually bite him. I’m upset that he’s allowed that to happen as I do think I’m quite an understanding person and I gave him the opportunity to start a fresh, clean slate. So now it is just disheartening as it feels as though whatever contentment and happiness we may have had in the last month or so was all built on a lie – but that could just be my perception of things.

    In regards to the embarrassment thing, I think where I truly believe I’ve been taken for granted multiple times now i suppose maybe my ego is getting in the way now? Or is it self-worth? I don’t know. It just feels awfully difficult to start over this time round after all the hiccups we’ve already had. It’s kinda like when does it end????!!! How many more times are we gonna start again?!! When will I finally bloody learn?!

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