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  • #150956
    Driftwood
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    Ughhh. I just replied and it didn’t send and everything disappeared. This anti robot thing is getting to be over the top. Plus I didn’t copy/save what I wrote first, which I usually do just in case..

    Dang- what happened to the tiny buddhas next to our names.. Drama in high school, you say? Yes, but there’s also drama in the office, drama in traffic, drama always ready to raise its overly dramatic head. High school is just the testing ground for the rest of life. Fortunately drama is easily recognizable an (usually) easy to avoid.

    Uke – very cool. Hope that is still bringing you pleasure.

    How goes your artwork? How goes the ‘is this the day’ discipline question. How go things with your Dad, the Seattle question and all the rest?

    Did you ever read the zen habit post I sent?

    A month of work and other major things going on in my life so its been a while – send news!

    -M

     

    #147261
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hey Sammi-

    Well, from your last post, it seems you know what you DON’T want to do, namely to move to your father’s. I know it’s all imperfect, and no one can make up for lost time, but I do sense that they care about you and are trying to find some solutions, even though they are not the ones you want. This probably gets you thinking more about the Charter school, since you’ve had that in mind for a while and have been moving toward that goal.

    Which brings me back to the discipline thing – hoping that all this time you’ve been asking yourself the ‘is this the day’ question every day. I found this post which I find interesting for my own reasons along these lines, and thought you’d be interested.

    The 5 Keys to Forming Any Habit

    Interested to hear your latest and I’ll try to reply soon – there have been a lot of really challenging things going on making it hard to find the cafe time/mental space to reply..

    Cheers,

    M

     

    #144493
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hey-

    Normal that you would feel sentimental about the person at the mall. It was a contact you made, it was YOUR contact and because it was kind of a regular relationship in a certain setting on your terms, you were able to feel some closeness. I have had similar feelings that seem out of proportion to the actual relationship. It happens a lot on crews when you’ve just spent 3 weeks working really closely on a project together and you’re all ‘breaking up’.

    I had the impression that the last time you saw your father was the first time in a long time and that you had just met your 9 year old brother… I remember you writing about how you didn’t want to see your dad, and that last time you finally did because he just showed and bro gave you that doodle. So have you seen him more regularly over the years? Would moving to Seattle be the worst thing for you? It would get you out of your current situation, or is that a toss-up? Is your little brother’s mother on the scene?

    As for the ‘discipline’ thing, if you’re not going to do it until ‘one day’ start asking yourself EVERY MORNING “Is THIS the day?”. The answer may be no, but asking the question at least is a form of discipline. And one day the answer will be yes. You need to do this if you’re going to really change things up for yourself and not just be ‘reactive’ but proactive to the ‘series of unfortunate events’ that make up your current situation.  Sometimes we have to get out of our own way in these situations.

    Check if there is a Chinese grocery somewhere near you – that’s the kind of place to get green tea on the cheap.

    No, I am not a robot. Hopefully fewer astral hitchhikers on this post.

    -M

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #143733
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Greetings-

    Found some cafe time to write.

    Well it’s good that you are talking to your counselor about the Dad stuff. I know it’s complicated. I do however think you really need to start some kind of discipline thing happening for yourself, even if it’s just walking the dogs around the block or some other thing that you might not even like to do that will then lead to another thing. Action/movement helps deal with issues, breaks up the solid blocks into smaller more dealable chunks. You are already reading/watching about alternative food choices, so why not take the very very daring step of walking into a health food store somewhere near you.. and just looking around. I remember doing this when I was a teenager and feeling completely isolated in the suburbs and it was kind of a window into my future. And don’t forget your trip to Powell’s books.

    Rather than judging the situation with your father, I thought I would describe some things about being the father of a 16 year old girl, which you can take however it does or doesn’t apply.

    While my daughter and I are and always have been very close (I was the primary parent most of the time in the early years) it is still very hard to know where someone who is 16 is at and how to ‘be’. Why? Because you are at once independent in thinking, and also dependent in other ways, at different stages of development in various areas – emotional, intellectual, etc.. and it’s almost impossible for a parent to figure out what position to take on things. Where to impose some discipline, where to step back. 

    Obviously the situation is different with you, and your father was not much of a presence in your life. So I can see how you would resent the reappearance. And it sounds like his life hasn’t been easy for a variety of reasons. But I am sure that in the mix, he has some regret and is grappling some guilt and trying to figure out how to make things better.

    This is a bumpy process because at once he is trying to understand you and at the same time is intimidated and doesn’t want to say something or make a wrong move that would offend you. Which could be why you get these ‘awkward date’  or fake nice feelings as well. He’s trying to grapple with things, and doesn’t want to impose.

    I’m not disputing anything you said about him, nor is this a judgement or advice on how you should react – whether the feeling of wanting to get away from him wins out or you have some kind of relationship will be largely your decision, and I can understand it going either way.

    On another note, how do you think your half-brother felt about meeting you? He gave you a drawing. What do you think it might have meant to him, at 9 years old to meet his sister? 

    -M

    #142477
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Wow-

    Can’t believe it’s been a month! I was traveling for work and then had a lot of  catching up to do.

    So in the end, your visit with your father wasn’t the worst thing in the world. When you say lied to, by whom? Do you want to share some of the history of this?

    I am a BIG believer that diet and exercise play a major role in mental health and clarity. You’re pointed in the right direction on that one.

    How goes the pursuit of ‘discipline’ we posted about oh-so long ago?

    Lemme know!

    -M

    #128913
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hey there-

    Very quick thoughts from the road because I’ll be tied up after that for several days:

    The reason for the discipline I”m talking about is so that you are building something for yourself with consistency.

    The ‘routine’ you describe needs to be broken up or rather rearranged somehow so that you can get something done. I understand that the reflex of self protection (in the household) has made you do some ‘workarounds’ in terms of when you do certain things, but in the end it’s doing you a disservice and perpetuating the state of nothingness/depression.

    So how/what can you introduce that will change things up a bit using discipline? You have this schoolwork that you have to get to so maybe that’s what you should do in the early ‘optimistic’ hours when your positive energy is good- that would be a good time to start this ‘building’, which in turn will perpetuate the positivity. I know you don’t have the habit, and I know schoolwork is a drag, but ditch one of your youtube sessions and let yourself do something constructive. You need some kind of feeling of movement and success, even on a tiny scale. Why not move your skyping to later in the day or better yet the evening when there’s nothing else that needs to be done and make it more of a personal reward rather than part of procrastinating?

    All these little things make up the bigger picture (school, accomplishment) and that’s the only thing that’s truly going to bust you out of there. Schoolwork is sometimes just a means to an end, but it’s important and you certainly have the brainpower to do this..

    As for the possible trip – no need to over analyze it. It should just be fun. Don’t worry too much. And getting away is very important for you to start feeling ‘yourself’. Definitely bring the Canon – trust me, I know what you mean about feeling better behind the camera, it keeps me going at times.

    I think you are striving for natural ‘holistic’ answers to some of your problems, and that is good. All of that stuff is very important. Aromatherapy, mindfulness/meditation, teas, all things I do to keep it together sometimes too. Do you mean valerian root tea? Also Vervaine, or just plain camomile, or Sleepy Time tea that’s easy to find in the supermarket.

    You are lining up the problems, and lining up the solutions, and this is an important step in becoming active about these things… so give yourself some credit, and try and think what solutions might be doable.

    #128607
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hey there Sammi-

    I’ve been thinking about your last post but unable to reply because I’m crazy busy prepping and traveling for an upcoming job.

    My overall comment about all that you just said, is, very cool.

    Why cool, of all things, you might ask? Because I think you are really starting to get to the root of things, and you’re expressing them very simply and clearly. You are frustrated with things the way they are and confronting them head-on. Becoming not only aware of them (which you were before) but also looking for ways to bust through some of these blockages.

    Nervous about the upcoming visit? Worried you’ll look at the wrong eye and turn yourself, or him into a frog? Very normal. You should hear my 40+ year old female friends talk about online dating. Sounds similar. There was an older man who lived around the block from me. I remember him from childhood. Never really knew him, just would see him walking his dog and he would say hello, starting when I was a very little kid. Was the ’round the block’ and Halloween kind of acquaintance of childhood. When his wife died, he eventually started dating. One day I heard him talking to someone about it and guess what? I remember being so surprised that this figure from my early childhood sounded like a teenage girl. So you see, that stuff might seem really acute because you’re a teenager, but it never really goes away (just becomes less seemingly a matter of life and death). In short, don’t worry about worrying about it. It’s normal.

    You liken the upcoming to the experience you had in Hawaii where you were too caught up in your own internal world to enjoy the outside world. You are acutely aware of this, and don’t want to repeat that experience. So don’t . If you were to work on figuring out the ways of not letting that happen this time.. what would some of those ways be? You have already gotten to the first step- which is awareness.

    Charter school seems scary right now. Change is scary. But what’s the alternative? I do think you’ll benefit from the challenge and the external stimulation. Otherwise you’ll continue to be in the same loop, internalizing things. Not saying it will be super easy but at least there will be some outside stimulation going on.

    Building your personal confidence is a slow and steady type process. And ongoing. All of these things are ongoing. Believe it or not, sometimes I still have to remind myself that I’m extremely competent and valued at what I do. You have to remember to be nice to yourself in the process. Accept yourself for who you are and start thinking about how to change things you think need improvement.

    To start on this road, I do feel like you need to add some discipline into your daily routine. Do some small things regularly. These could be things that have to do with your own well-being or just things that need to happen. Whether it’s washing and folding your laundry, vacuuming under the bed (yikes!), dealing with the dogs, learning photoshop, adding consistency to your homework/study schedule An ongoing list of small things will build toward something over time. And most importantly – make this an exercise to begin the habit of giving yourself credit whether it’s for cleaning the hair out of the drain or folding socks, give yourself the credit for having done the consistent thing you didn’t really feel like doing but did.. Yes, it feels stupid at first. Start now and get used to it. Make it a habit.

    I’m not necessarily talking about the art /creative side of things, but the day to day small things , and remembering to give yourself some credit. Sounds lame, perhaps, but tell yourself that you did a good job on whatever it is you did.

    Combining this with little jaunts out of your ‘comfort zone’ and into the world of cafes, bookstores or whatever is also important. Start weaning yourself from the comfort zone/trap, and get slightly uncomfortable. And you’ll see you will start to get more comfortable in the discomfort zone. We are very adaptable creatures.

    Finding small seemingly insignificant ways to build something up for yourself will do a lo more than you might think. Trust me on this deal. (The head of the lifeguards in my town who deals with 17y/o – college age kids has a tee shirt that says ‘I’m old and grey, just do what I say’. So yeah…)

    All of the above are really good things, Sammi.

    As for the counseling, what you say is ironic because if you really were a peer of the counselor, you would probably want to ‘get your money’s worth’ and tell her all your problems and have her help you. Baby steps are fine, but the sooner you start confronting these things and bringing them out into the open, the less imposing they will start to become.

    The commissioned piece is cool. The suicide joke…hmm… Oh yeah- and why does the counselor recommend sleeping pills? Sounds iffy to me… Why not a natural sleep remedy like melatonin?

    Will read your response from the road…

    #127136
    Driftwood
    Participant

    I think it’s kind of interesting that in your last letter you mention something that held you back from experiencing the world around you, and that you are seeing that clearly right now.

    Perhaps what’s surfacing for you is a growing awareness and exploration of things that held/hold you back?

    Could it be that a part of you is ready to bust out of the shell? Part of the shell has been imposed on you from self-preservation from the ‘situation’. But from what you’re saying, part of it was there already at 9. You are sensitive and introspective, so it’s natural that this would take hold of you sometimes and hold you back from what’s around you.

    Or maybe while thinking of visiting your friend, which you anticipate will be a special thing, you want to make sure you don’t repeat the Hawaii situation?

    So in what ways are you still doing it, and in what do you think would help you break out of it? Any ideas about what kind of life you WANT to live (no answer necessary)? If there were not anxiety, ’blockages’ phobias, or situational limitations, how would you see yourself living?

    Totally normal by the way that you would feel angsty about getting a job lot’s of people do – it’s a big deal since it’s a ‘first’. So don’t take yourself to task for it. Try not to attach everything i.e. getting out of the house, paying rent somewhere,being a grown up etc.. to getting a job. You’re not there yet. Just try observing those things that hold you back.

    Small goals, imposing small doses of discipline on yourself that no one has to know about but you ( if it makes you feel vulnerable in the house or would get negative comments), then building on that. I do think that a combination of addressing those things in therapy and just plain action that gets you out of yourself (meaning getting out of the house, the Charter school, going to Powell’s, exploring something new etc..) will go a long way.

    Any more/better communication in the last counseling session? Note that there’s a / between the words more and better.

    #127134
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hi Julia–

    It might seem like I have some great insight into this person, but as you can see from your recent reading on the personality disorder, all these stories go pretty much the same way.

    These kinds of people often know how to get close to us and appeal to our natural need for love and sensuality and for a while we seem like we’re the center of their universe. But in the end, they are more like casting directors auditioning and actor/actress to play a part in their own pathologies than boyfriends or girlfriends. It’ a great trip, but afterwards we’re left wondering how it could have been SO intimate and then gone to nothing. They on the other hand, think they have ‘moved on’ just to repeat the process. In the end, somewhere deep down they know they’re not capable of sustaining anything more, but a big part of them is ‘normal’ in that they too are just looking for love like the rest of us, blind to/willfully ignorant of their own limitation and the harm they do. They got what they needed; the incredible high of approval and intimacy – and that’s as far as they’re capable of going. Their latest ex on the other hand is left processing the emotions, whereas incapable of processing emotions responsibly, they skip that part.

    If you took a ride on the Orient Express, it might be the most wonderful, interesting, sensual trip of your life and you might look back on it with nostalgia forever, but the train would make the same trip over and over again with different passengers, and wouldn’t miss you at all. It’s kind of like that in my experience.

    Two weeks is nothing in the scope of things, though sorry it has been a painful two weeks for you. We take this wonderful ride (and indeed there’s always something to be learned) we become invested in it, and want it to go further and then we’re dumped off at the nearest stop. Because there just is no ‘further’ with them. There never was.

    For some reason we feel like after this deeply felt emotional experience that has just ended traumatically we should be able to immediately snap back to our normal, driven lives the way we were before without a hitch, and if we can’t there’s something wrong with us. But it just doesn’t work that way. Processing those emotions is natural and it’s natural for you to be heartbroken, because you’re a human, feeling person. So don’t be hard on yourself. Allow yourself the time, and explore things that make you feel better.

    I think it’s in Chinese medicine that they call the spot between your breastbones, at the intersection of your rib cage the ‘grieving point’. When you press there, if it’s kind of sore or inflamed that means you’re still grieving. Yoga breathing and meditation have helped me with releasing this.

    Everything’s normal here and you have all the answers. Not you just have to process it and get back to yourself without worrying that it’s taking too long.

    #126856
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hi Julia9278-

    All of the answers to your questions are contained in your own letter which tells me you very much have this person in perspective despite still being in a tailspin about him and what he did – which is only natural.

    One thing that narcissistic or abusive people do is keep us busy anticipating their needs, their ups and downs, often invalidating our own feelings. This gets us off our own centers and if we are naturally empathetic and insightful, we start to compensate for them, – understanding sometimes better than they do what sets them off and forgetting ourselves in the process. So we end up helping them through the ‘very tough’ process of abusing us and apologizing for our own feelings.

    He can do all this in the blink of an eye because it’s his pathology. Hard to believe but it has less to do with you than with his own patterns which were well established before you came into the picture. Guaranteed that he did these same things before you came in to his life and will do so to others after.

    This is incomprehensible to you because you are processing the actions of an abnormal psychology (maybe even borderline personality) with your normal psychology. Imagine yourself sitting in a café or bar twenty years from now talking to his next ex. Do you have any doubt you two would be bonding about him having done the exact same thing to her as he did to you?

    You have every right to feel angry, and it is healthy and justified that you do. Being angry is part of the process of moving on. So be with that and don’t feel obliged to feel politically/emotionally correct or super evolved about it.

    I know you love/d this person, but unfortunately the actions you describe are not going to change. This is not someone who has any interest in confronting his own problems, and keeps busy playing out his on inner problems on those he draws close to him.

    Underneath the narcissistic need for approval is a deep self loathing, and a deep seated belief that no one can truly love him. Deep down he does not value himself, which is why he needs constant approval, so how can he value you?

    He pre-emptively rejects the person who loves him, leaving a wake of hurt and destruction and question marks behind him. The relationships he can handle, however, are the friendships, and in these he feels safe since no one gets as close. He’s the greatest most charming guy in the world to those people to reassure himself that he’s ok. The other stuff mostly happens in close relationships, not the friendships, so the friends don’t get to see that side of him.

    If you drew a diagram, it might look something like this: Feeling insecure, need approval use charm to get love. Got love, still feel hollow- (thinking it must be the love object’s fault). Devalue and reject this person, seek new approval and new love. Seems to me like this would be a circular diagram.

    I get the strong impression that while your feelings might pull you back in, in your heart of hearts you know you are well out of it.

    One thing that might help is doing some mindfulness/meditation on all of this, letting it run its course swirling around your head until it eventually becomes more quiet, and finding your center in the meantime. That seems to be the direction you’re going in..

    #126846
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hi Sammi–

    Travels were interesting though it was constant work the whole way from Silicon Valley to North Carolina. Came across a lot of interesting people from an Uber driver who helps people cross over into dying to some deep south serious Trump supporters. A real example of how varied this country is. Varied being a better word than divided.

    No such thing as a tangent here – your regret seems maybe to be that you were oblivious to the world..? Do you mean you were wrapped up in your own thing and didn’t give enough attention to what was around you?

    Cool that you will be getting on a plane soon. I’m assuming this is to see your S.O. who you said lives on the other side of the country? Still procrastinating? Stop it! You have a lot of work to do before your great/sweet escape or whatever.

    T’is a far better thing to throw piece of tracing paper over a DaVinci drawing and copy it than play video games…

    When you make your move you’ll need some arrows in your quiver, and that means working towards Charter school and maybe increasing your various skills… no? You need to feel the wheels of evolution turning. Even if all is imperfect its better than having them just spinning in the mud.. Expanding your skills will be expanding your confidence and that will help certain other things fall by the wayside. Ok, that’s my lecture for tonight.

    In general I get the feeling that things are a bit better over there? That you are not so bothered as you were those months ago..?? Had another chance to approach things in counseling?

    -Mitchell

    #126420
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hey Sammi-

    I’ve been meaning to respond to your last post, but some unexpected work came up and I’ve been flying all over for the past week+. No- you are not forgotten!! And anyway I don’t jump ship like that, even in the virtual world. Approaching those topics with the therapist is important – and might take a few times before you can begin to broach those subjects, but really – keep at it and keep observing what’s holding you back (and keep thinking of all the things you want to start to ‘get rid of’ before Charter school… That motion is important.

    And yes, ‘hipsters’ (or worse, people who think they’re hipsters) are the new market, so what once was ‘edgy’ (even though it never really was) is now mainstream (which it kind of was the whole time). Hipsters are really conformists in flannel anyway. So every big company has to have its ‘maker’ video now, and banking ads are geared towards them cause they’re the next generation getting mortgages etc..

    This came to me while I was traveling regarding a lot of what we have talked about, the world and the ongoing issues we all have, and I’ve been meaning to write it down..

    You can either:

    Use your skill, artistry and originality as a shield to keep you from dealing with the problems that haunt you and from the world

    or you can

    Work on building your skills, artistry and orignal thinking while dealing with all those problems until you start feeling more comfortable in you own skin and in the world.

    Not sure how clear that is, or if it makes sense, but that’s what came to me after a day of work/travel. Airplanes are the best for meditation.

    Keep me posted!

    -Mitchell

    #125628
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hi Sammi-

    Work just got kind of busy so I’ll have to be super brief and circle back on some of the things you brought up..

    Went to the Whitney museum in NYC with my daughter for my birthday. A new and very awesome building with one of the greatest collections of modern art in the world and a floor of weird video and media installations dating from the 50’s to now. Then hung out with her and the dog, which is all I need, really. This is the first birthday in a while without my girlfriend, so me with daughter and dog were all I really needed to be happy.

    It is interesting about your visiting friend. Friends have a way of confronting us with our own crap that annoys the hell out of us but at the same time rings true somewhere. (Which is even more annoying!) She feels comfortable enough with you to explore your inner world and trudge around in it a little, and this brings things to the surface, which in the long run is good for you, though I’m sure gets up your grill. At least that’s been my experience. So in the ‘zen’ sense, observe what is annoying you about it and why/what it confronts you with… Try not to react from an ego based place, and see what is valid about what she’s saying vs. what she doesn’t understand. I should take my own advice here, I know, but easier to give it then do it…

    My feeling is that you are making more progress, i.e. getting more ‘distance’ on your home situation and separating out what is and isn’t ‘you’ in the situation, if that makes sense. I do think that your awareness and looking at things is also a part of the reason the ship is leaving the dock in terms of what picking, cutting etc.. represents for you. It holds less relevance for you now, maybe? I don’t know much about it at all, aside from some incidents with daughter’s friends, but it seems to me the more stuff that comes to the surface, the more ‘mindful’ you are about what’s bothering you, the less of an ‘escape valve’ it will become. Don’t know..

    Question- You say your mother doesn’t know about the cutting, but I’m assuming she knows about the picking because she sees?

    Your insights into those videos are spot on with some of what I was thinking. The reasons I asked were a) because there’s something called and ‘explainer’ video, that I absolutely hate. Also just hate the word grammatically since it reminds me of when George Bush said ‘I’m the decider’. You might have seen them – they’re often cartoons or a hand drawing figures on a whiteboard. And they often are overly simplistic in a ‘cute’ way, like “Ok, lets pretend we’re all morons, and I’ll explain this to you in really simple terms.’ Once in a while people ask me about them for work and I really have nothing to say because they’re animations and also cause I hate them so much. But these were kind of portraits of people actually doing things, and I thought that could be a good approach. b) I wanted to get your take on EXACTLY what you mentioned which was the ‘hipster’ thing because there was an element of ‘hey, I’m super cool and you can be too!’ I wanted to see if you bought it. I do however think that the girl ‘Sarah’ was for real and really did that stuff, and I did like the result and I don’t think she herself was ‘fake’ but it felt a tiny bit forced in that direction. Nonetheless she and her stuff were cool despite the slightly off-course direction.

    Also didn’t like the ‘don’t do humor’ thing either, the resume was kind of contrived.
    The voice app was by far the most original.

    Hope therapy session is a good one… perhaps getting to the base stuff behind the ‘cutting’ would be more comfortable??

    Ok, need to end it here for now. To be continued..

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    #125330
    Driftwood
    Participant

    Hi Sammi–

    I know what you mean when you say that you are worried that other’s will notice/take credit if you make a move. Maybe you find it invasive, because there has been a lot of invasive behavior or ‘emotional trespassing’ on the part of someone in the house. Much of your time has been spent protecting yourself as a kid, and rightly so. Nonetheless, part of taking control of your own situation is starting to let go of that and not giving a shite what he or anyone else thinks. First step is prioritizing what you need to do to get some of your personal issues on the table and start the process of dealing. You’ve already started down this path and you should give yourself some credit (very important). You have the ability to see things clearly and to cut through the bull when you see it both in others and yourself (something not everyone can do) So now it’s time to go down the checklist of what you need to deal with and start bringing it up. And trust me, you’re not going to ruin the therapist’s day – quite the opposite since it sounds like she’s been waiting til the time is right for you.

    I think you’ll find that starting to deal with all this stuff head-on will be freeing – the alternative is to continue with ‘workarounds’ until they become a hardened part of your way of dealing with the world. I’m reminded of the way trees grow around street signs that were bolted on years ago, or the way a tree will grow around barbed wire fencing. So it would be good to start cutting away at the things that bind you/the things behind the things that bind you. (cutting away at cutting?)
    The 18th is around the corner.. Go Sammi, Go!

    It is interesting that you bring up the coddling thing since that had to do with my third example (the one I didn’t get to last time). Coddling can be a way for a parent to overcompensate when they feel like they’re either failing at, don’t understand/don’t want to or don’t feel they can address real issues. Or if the child doesn’t let them “in’ enough to help with real things. I’ve known parents who’ve done it to compensate for their own sense of guilt about a divorce, lack of money or other family issues and shortcomings. It’s an understandable but slightly misplaced way of caring and it’s not done maliciously, though a child will sometimes resent it because it’s not addressing the real problem and can be just a bandaid/enabler. The third thing is a very interesting story but it’s kind of a downer…and hard to describe..

    Anyway, yes you might feel like a tiny little person alone in a room oversleeping, but actually you’re a big thinker and good at expressing it. So part of building your coping skills to meet your high level of thinking is to start talking it through this stuff with the therapist. Moving through so much of this stuff is your key to emotional freedom that will lead to your real independence.

    ____ (I’ve adopted your _____ divider thing, by the way).

    On a completely other note… This was sent to me by adobe cc (no, I’m not an adobe promoter just do a lot of editing). If you don’t mind, I’m interested in hearing your impression of some of the videos, i.e whether you relate to them/they strike you as real, fake, inspiring or whatever. Whether they’re informative dorky, etc.. This was aimed at students. Scroll down the the six especially Sarah made a Poster, the Sam sizzle reel, and Sandra made an app. Also the others if you can. Asking a few people. Basically I’m interested in your takes on both the applications but also the video approach for my own video reasons. Don’t want to say too much and will tell you why I’m interested after.

    https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/buy/students.html?sdid=6NCS7F8L&mv=display

    Later,

    Mitchell

    #124907
    Driftwood
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    Hey Sammi-

    I’m glad to hear that you feel that this is doing you some good since I was concerned I might have been too pushy. Like I’ve said, I’m no therapist, but I’ve seen several similar situations and am dealing my daughter and friends within months of your exact age range. I have time to write since tomorrow is my birthday and I’m hanging with my daughter (who’s doing homework) at my ex’s tonight and tomorrow since my house (long story) is freezing right now.

    Anyway, welcome to the one step forward, two steps back business, aka the human race. Not always easy for many of us humans to get out of bed in the morning. I think it’s very important to start bringing the fore mentioned issues up with the therapist as a proactive way of working through all this stuff. While I too can talk about rice for hours (short grain brown rice in a pressure cooker for 35 minutes and is great), she might just be waiting for a cue from you to start talking about the important issues. Even if the situation is not ideal and you don’t know how to change it up, start addressing these issues such as they are and see where it leads. This is what I mean by the difference between 15 and 16 where you start getting proactive. This isn’t a linear process and yes, there will be lots of back and forth, as in life.

    As for discipline, consider yourself in the discipline business; having just opened up a discipline shop, business is going to start slow but it will catch on once word gets out (to yourself) that this stuff works. We all stare at the ‘laundry basket’ in one way or another. The small steps of discipline for discipline’s sake (i.e. not diving into the laundry basket to get dressed but hanging things up) lead to bigger chunks of discipline and most importantly give you some momentum. They take on a life of their own. I know it’s not easy, but you need this kind of traction so you can stop spinning your wheels. Also it’s prep for next year since things aren’t all of a sudden going to start magically happening by themselves once charter school starts and there will be other challenges.

    Yes, take that walk in 30 degrees, better yet take the dogs out for a walk (they will really appreciate it). Don’t understand why you should bother? Doesn’t matter! Doing and motion are themselves sometimes the best form of therapy and we all have to deal with overcoming our tendencies to stay in bed or whatever our particular dysfunction of choice is. As a freelancer I have to regularly kick my own ass to make calls and send out resumes for work. So yes, start kicking your own ass. It’s really critical that you start the ball rolling in a meaningful way with the therapist. And I think you will find this and the dealing with the ‘laundry basket’ really helps weaken the magnetic pull of your bed.

    Going to give you one or two examples of moving things forward vs. not. Obviously not direct comparisons to you.

    Daughter’s friend from kindergarten: A really intelligent well spoken likable, interesting, creative girl.They were friends for many years but then this friend started suffering from really terrible anxiety and unfounded phobias that seemed to change every week. This was always present to some degree. In the early years playdates would become almost impossible because she would have a fit or put a stop to them and we would have to leave. So my daughter would only see her when I was visiting her parents since we were by now friends on our own. It all got worse when she was about 12. She stopped going to school, stopped hanging with most people and was abandoned by what was left of her friends since everyone started going through peer pressure stuff and no one could deal with her anymore. Couldn’t bring herself to go to the library to meet with the private tutor that was arranged by the school district and now that she was an outcast in school she really wasn’t going to go back despite a few half-hearted random attempts.

    Very talented, she would stay home and do interesting drawings, but mostly did nothing but watch tv. Started self harming a little bit. All of this dysfunction was accompanied by a kind of manic ruling of the household, stopping everyone else from going about their lives. Drove her older sister crazy by the fact that she dominated everything and the older sister got very little attention unless the parents made special arrangements to give her attention outside the house. Needless to say she failed out of school despite being really smart. Finally her parents found a place for her that dealt with these kinds of fears etc.. through therapy and a really disciplined lifestyle. She objected but was threatened with being forced to go. They were prepared to have people from the place actually come and escort her, but eventually they got her to agree to go. It was out of state and so she would not see her family since dominating the family dynamic was part of her way of enabling herself. (note that this was in no way an abusive family). The place she went was a house with rules based in learning discipline, meaning you get up in the morning, make your breakfast, clean the kitchen, exercise, do your laundry, etc.. then you deal with your schoolwork which is your responsibility (this wasn’t a school so this was done online). Very limited time on computers recreationally, no calls, no texting at first. Two 15 minute conversations with family per week, then a one hour session on the phone with family and therapist on the weekend. There was also creative time, lots of other options etc… She really started to thrive, mentally and creatively and carved out a healthy place for herself. She got in good physical shape and was able to get off her medications that weren’t helping anyway. A lot of this benefit was discipline related but also from being cut off from the things that allowed her not to function like family and computer games, and learning to navigate her strong and weak points and take stock in herself. My daughter and I have not seen her in two years, but I talked to her on the phone the other day during one of their 15 minute calls and I can tell you she was like a different person. I mean it was a huge difference – self-possessed and confident and ready to leave that place and move on. She’s 16 now and won’t be returning to her old school but will be in another that is more suited to her.

    Family member: A very gifted professional writer who was abused in childhood by an older sibling. Suffered from a few addictions, mostly smoking cigarettes and overeating. Developed a kind of ‘persona’ that she used at times to project what she wanted people to think of her and used it to avoid reality. She seeked out therapy and while much of the therapy was useful, she also used her understanding of it to enable herself to wield power over other family members, indulging her every small neurosis to the max, imposing her whims on those around her and using this as a way to control others. Often very subtly abusive and insulting to others while considering herself a victim, she at times uses her mental health issues as ‘currency’ (mental illness card) to basically do what she wants or NOT do what she doesn’t want like take responsibility in family matters. But never ever admits or is even aware of it. Everything revolves around her and she uses therapy terms to turn things around on other family members who might confront her with her bad behavior. Now older, she used therapy correctly in one sense but also didn’t use it to its full advantage and still plays out/projects her yet unresolved childhood issues on the rest of the family.

    Okay that’s it for now. There’s another but it’s too late now and you get the idea. Might have a busy week ahead but I do think you have enough to think about between this and the last post. (And anyway you have some school catching up to do…!)

    Again, I really think you can do this and NOW is the time to start. From what you’ve described I think sometimes you’re concerned about what others in the house will think if you do something different or seem to be making a move, but don’t worry about that. You do sound stronger in terms of not internalizing the verbal abuse and bad behavior now anyway.

    -Mitchell

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