I appreciate your kind words, I would never insult any forum without first exchausting everything available to me :  medicine,  nerve medicine, depression meds, physical therapy to last two people a lifetime.. knee/ hip injections,and now my personal favorite I’m on my final back epideral injection on November 20… after that I have a scheduled appointment for a back surgeon.. I have had both hips replaced  but I’m a little nervous about any augury on my back.. but me and my wife will see I suppose.. I also have added a psychitrist to help me deal with depression created by pain and a therapist!  All of this has been demanding on my family and myself! I would think if I didn’t exhausted everything medically available to me…I would be basically a complete whiner…plus honestly as much as people make a big deal out of it… I’m not the biggest fan of taking all this medicine! Again I appreciate your kind words and the most important thing is I would never ever be able to do half these things without the love and support of my wife and children….when you have chronic pain it’s not just hard on myself but just as hard on the people around me! My wife again is angel/ saint like..she has seen me at my best and absolute worst.. and along the way makes me feel like I the most impotant person in the world!