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confusedasf
ParticipantHi Tee,
I can’t express how greatful I am to all the support you and others gave me for the past half month.
Yes, he never blamed me on anything, also never said his relapse was because of us fighting/breaking up or anything related. He is a very nice person with his own family/career struggles and also alcoholic families. I feel very bad for him, as a kind, nice person, he deserves better life than this and I wanted to help really bad, but now I know i can’t help or fix anything. He also never blamed me for leaving, by the time we ended things, he said: “I’m surprised you put up with me for so long, you should look out for yourself more.” and he also told me how badly he wanted to have a future with me, that’s also part of the reason he stressed out a lot because he wants to provide.
As for me, I’m actually excited for the solo trip, although scared at same time but mostly excited. I’m kind of curious how is it like to go on this three day dates with myself, i guess we will have fun. I think I’m less confused now, because the direction is quite clear. I will work on myself until I’m ready to date again, then I will see if my heart still goes towards him, if so I can’t fight with myself, i will make a move. If not, then I will start exploring again 🙂
Now I just need to breathe and keep improving myself. I’ve been having lots of fun lately, gaining more clarity day by day.Again thank you! Idk whether I will have any news to update soon, but I will keep you posted. <3
confusedasf
ParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you for everything. All the conversation I had here are super meaningful and valuable in terms of my self healing journey. Greatful to have you and Tee for all the kind words.
Idk when I will post next, idk when I will be ready, I might spiral tomorrow again, but as for now, I feel strong enough to move on with bettering myself. If there’s a chance in the future between us, I will make a move, but if not, that’s ok, I’m sure we will both grow into better person.Appreciate everything <3
confusedasf
ParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you for the kind words and the method to help me breathe and calm down. The validation is something I needed. I’m also glad that I’m confused. Because it is not necessarily a bad thing, maybe it’s more of a warning that my brain is trying to tell me not to approach yet.
The part you described about fearful avoidant resonates with me a lot, I feel like I’m strongly pulled towards him while constantly trying to pull myself out, partly I don’t trust myself, partly I don’t trust him. And I think I contribute more to that by constantly doubting him and his love. I don’t feel safe, and we had this conversation towards the end of the relationship where he told me on a scale of 1-10, he trusted me & felt safe with me at 9. That’s also probably why, after we broke up, he still had the strength to tell me how much he misses me. But I never felt that level of trust or safety with him. I had so much doubt after breaking up, so much self-doubt, doubt of the relationship, wondering if he loves me or not, wondering if everything is just me being delusional. But he told me directly and raw about his feelings soothed my mind and my heart deeply.
I’m grateful that he is so straightforward about his emotions,even tho he has a hard time expressing his struggle, but he always tells me how much he loves me and misses me.
I believe you are right about when someone is overwhelmed, they don’t have the bandwidth to handle anything other than surviving their own crisis. And I don’t plan to interfere with that.
Thank you againconfusedasf
ParticipantHi Tee,
Thank you for the response.
I’m not sure if he meant that he is doing it on his own without seeking help, I’m not sure about the situation. But hopefully he does. I agree, therapy and possibly doctor/rehab can really make a difference.
I’m just happy that he’s doing okay, and I’ve kind of moved on with my life. Things start to get busy, and I’ve started to challenge myself by not reaching out when I freak out or feel anxious. I’ve also started planning a solo trip so that I can be alone without relying on anyone. Not easy, I’d say it’s hard. therically, I know what’s the “right” thing to do, how to regulate it, but again, it’s really hard to transfer that into action, and without a person to test it out, I highly doubt if I’d “Relapse” or not lol. Again and because of this, I know none of us is ready.
But I still miss him a lot, miss him as a person to have in my life. Missing him is as easy as breathing, really wish him the best, and hopefully, he can get back on his feet soon and have everything he deserves. Also, kind of stopped being paranoid about him moving on or having lots of doubts about us. Because I do believe whatever we had is real, just none of us are capable of having it, tho, it doesn’t make whatever we had any less real.
I don’t mind being the person to make the first move, but not now. I’m not ready personally, I don’t want to push anything when I’m not ready. Maybe in another two months, I feel more confident handling my own emotions and giving the support my partner deserves, I’d reach out with a clear purpose to either open the conversation or close it completely.
As for now, I already feel much better than when I first posted here. Thank you so much for all these. Much appreciated.confusedasf
ParticipantHi Tee,
Here are some updates:
He responded to my message, it was a long response. Basically telling me his recent struggles and frustrations but he is feeling better. He is sober now and it’s hard, but he believes that he got this and have the faith in himself to stay sober. It’s not going to be easy, but he is more confident, and he misses me a lot especially now he’s sober, he misses more than before. And asking how I am doing.
I responded that knowing he is doing better makes me happy, shared a little about my life, how I reflected and learning how to deal with myself and my emotions. told him I miss him as well and hope everything goes well with him.
It feels good at first, but now I’m just sit in this limbo stage not knowing what’s going on.
I don’t want to know that we both miss each other, but there’s nothing we can do about it. I don’t want to sit in the false hope thinking he might feel better, and we might get back together. These emotion exchange honestly just gave me a temporary sooth but not actually helping me or the relationship. Now I’m just more confused. Because I’m not sure what’s going on now. We broke up, but he misses me, I miss him, neither of us hinted at anything of moving forward or anything else. We are just stuck in the stage of missing each other. What is this? I have never experienced something like this before. Of course, when we broke u,p we still love each other, and of course we’d miss each other, but then what?I’m more confused now, sorry about all these.
confusedasf
ParticipantHi Tee,
Trying to answer some of your question here as well:
“Almost like a parent figure to your inner child. So your inner child has a need for him to be emotionally stable – the same as a child has the need for the parent to be positive, strong, reliable – to be able to emotionally regulate the child. Does this ring true to you?” this is tremendous and very helpful insight. I need to sit with it and digest. Brilliant way of looking at it
“Is he really serious about getting help? When you say “things happened and dragged him into more cycles”, do you mean there was another crisis and he resorted to drinking again?”
honestly speaking, he has been delaying. He was supposed to sign up for therapy, he told me he needs to get insurance info from his dad and he ended up didn’t sign up. He had sign up an appointment with doc, he ended up didn’t go due to work. That’s also part of the reason I kind of give up because he seems knowing the issue but not taking it seriously enough to prioritize himself first.“Your support of him could be in the form of acknowledging his stress, having empathy for him, and not pressuring him to cater to your emotional needs when he is in distress.” Also very insightful, I need to learn and practice this, but idk how when I’m single, it seems each with friends, I can help my friends that way, but with partner, I see it differently.
Best
confusedasf
ParticipantHi Tee,
Thank you for your response.
I don’t really hope he steps up to the plate for now, as long as he’s eating, sleeping, and handling physical health well currently. A little update that I reached out to him last Sunday saying: “How are you? just check in to see how you are feeling, hope everything goes good lately. ” After my reflection and sorting out my mind a bit more, I realize I can finally listen to or look at his stress without internalizing it now, so I start to feel a bit worried about him. I hope he’s doing well, and I wonder if he feels better. But he didn’t respond. I was feeling very sad, but I also think it is fine. It just means he’s not ready, and I hope he’s fine; that’s what matters more to me right now.
As for my emotions, it’s truly roller coaster, one day I feel better, the other day I feel extremely sad finding out he followed a new girl on ig. Makes me question everything again and triggers my insecurity and fear of a lack of love.
As for my reflection, I noticed that I had a pattern of abandoning my partner when they were experiencing emotional difficulties because of my insecurity. I give up on a relationship whenever I feel uncomfortable, instead of working through the problem with my people. I am continuously working with my therapist and working on that. I also never went single for more than 2 months, which says a lot. I experience all kinds of anxiety when I’m single, and when I’m not, I can comfortably focus on work, life, etc. So right now, my goal is to stay single for at least 6 months to figure out how to handle my insecurity. How to handle my own stress and anxiety instead of outsourcing to my partner, in that case, I hope I can learn how to hold other people when they are at their lows. But just knowing all these doesn’t mean I can do them; I still need lots of time.Overall doing better now. I did buy us concert tickets to see this very old local musician (we went last year for our second date) earlier in May, wanted to surprise him as a (almost) one-year date. But now they are sitting with me, and I am not able to go due to travel conflicts. I plan to text him and give him the tickets(it’s will call by door, we don’t need to meet or anything). I hope he takes them and can enjoy the music regardless.
As for how to get him back, I don’t know, I don’t know when I will be ready, when he will be ready, if we both would move on, or if we both would work on ourselves. I love him and of course I wanted the latter one, but idk about him, I feel like a fool sometimes.
Thanks again for listening
confusedasf
ParticipantHi Alessa,
Thank you for all your suggestions.
Yes I was willing to travel more but he was living with his mom or dad (they split up) so when he started to drink again, his relationship with his mom started to tense up, and his dad lives further away, not convenient for both of us to go to work. I travel to him sometimes before the whole thing clapse, but the last two months, I couldn’t, he either tells me not to go (cuz he was drunk doesn’t want me to know, and stressed out) or tell me he will come to me (which end up bailing couple times due to his stress, lack of bendwith of doing so)
We share many common interests, and I suggest things he likes to do, as well as constantly checking if he has time to hang out with friends and participate in activities that he enjoys. But things got to a point where he has no time at all for anything, he is spending too much time worrying than actually doing much. Other times, he needs to work a lot and travels a lot. barely had time to work out, eat properly, meet friends regularly, I have to say, seeing me is already the most he can do outside his personal things.
But thank you for saying that sometimes all you needed is just a simple hug, which I found out that he fall asleep so easily around me(he couldn’t sleep well usually) and he relaxes next to me if we walk for some time or sit for some time. But I was at a point that too insecure that I needed to impulsively act on my stress to try to fix something, let alone bear with the silence. That’s the moment I broke things up. I feel very bad about it, but we both did feel a bit lighter afterwards. I helped him removed one major things he needs to worry, I temporarily removed the stress he was causing me.
I do need to learn more about how not to take others’ stress internally and stress myself out, also need to learn how to empathize with boundaries. I really love him and want to try again. But even know I reflected so much, I don’t think I am ready. i really need time to work on it and make actual changes to hold his emotions.confusedasf
Participanthi alessa,
thank you for your opinion. i think what you said is true. i’m hesitate about reaching out mainly because of that. i don’t think i have a solution or even can offer anything yet to change the situation.
if the pattern repeats, it will eventually kill our love for each other and that’s something i don’t want.confusedasf
Participanthi tee,
thank you for the detailed response. i’m very grateful that you took the time and go through everything to make it more clear to me. he is open to therapy, he is looking at aa, he is trying to get help, again things happened and dragged him into more cycles of not able to make those plans as well. i hope he does now. i really love him and willing to support him.
through our no contact time, (it’s been two weeks now) i got a lot of clarify, my emotional underlayment is fear, fear of lack of love. so when he does express his feeling, and not able to tell me what i can do, i feel helpless and internalize it as i’m a useless person and i can’t help him, he keeps tell me again and again how stressful he is, means he doesn’t love me and i’m essentially just a burden. so i built so much resentment, but same time i know the right thing to do is support, is to say nice things, but mainwhile, my intension is wrong, it’s never come from his benefit, it’s come from me thinking that’s the right thing to do and i forced myself to do it. and that is completely ruined me. because on top of the resentment, i forces me myself to be patient and saying things not from my heart makes my emotion bottle up so fast. at a point, not only he needs to deal with his own emotion, he has to deal with mine, also deal with proving his love.
ive been working on it with my therapist, i really wish we can give it another shot.
i just want to be there for him, because the break gives me the clarify of that i actually love him and feel sad for him and care about him as a person. that i want to know if he feels better not because i want to feel less lonely, because i care him as a person.
i want to know how can i approach the conversation and if we still have a chance. 🙁 -
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