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StacyParticipant
Hi, Anita
Yes, it’s true that my mom and sister are struggling so much with their own issues that they are just incapable of giving me the energy and patience I need. I kind of feel like I’m not able to be a present daughter either right now, I’m struggling with my own issues. You hit the nail on the head with how I feel about Christmas, thank you for putting words to my scrambled feelings about that. It’s such an empty feeling. Maybe someday I can give someone a more healed version of myself. I know I have to take responsibility for how this all has affected how I show up in relationships and yet also be able to stand up for myself. It’s a very hard balance for me.
Also no, there is no public transportation in my town other than a van. It’s not as sketchy as it sounds but it does not travel out to the woods where I live. Also, thank you. I have the game plan of what will help make me feel like a capable woman, but shorter term goals need to happen and I need to see value in myself right now too. If you don’t mind me asking, but did your work in therapy help build your self-worth and self-trust? I say that because you mentioned earlier in one of your posts that even after you moved out and met your external goals, that you still struggled with negative feelings. I know I have to feel good with myself while I work towards those long term goals and it just feels impossible to go 30-ish years feeling so insignificant and like a burden to suddenly loving myself. It’s the biggest void I’m trying to fill.
StacyParticipantHi, Helcat
Thank you. I wish I had made it clear to him that I wasn’t expecting perfection from him. It hurts to know that he was probably telling me what I wanted to hear a lot of the time. It’s hard to know what was real because of that. Him liking those photos made me see him differently because of what you mentioned with his possible sexual struggles – there seemed to be a pattern I was seeing with him being sexually unfulfilled by me. He told me that his best didn’t seem good enough and that his best will never be good enough for anyone the night he broke up with me. So maybe he just gave up, or just used this opportunity as an out he had been looking for. I think you’re right that he may have been feeling like he was disappointing me for awhile, or that he didn’t want to try harder out of a lack of passion for me and guilt set in over time. He told me on several occasions that he felt that I didn’t trust him and he assured me each time that his intentions were good and that we were a team.
And yes, in reference to your question about relationship difficulties from the past: trust and my own insecurities are my biggest issues I’m carrying. I dated one guy for four years who didn’t have social media for most of the time we were dating. Then he suddenly made an Instagram account behind my back during one of our “breaks” and I found it and saw that he was exclusively following pantyhose fetish model accounts, barely legal girls in lingerie, and more sexually explicit content. I felt like I didn’t even know the guy. I approached him about all of this hurting my feelings so much and he told me I had changed – that I was being controlling and jealous and wasn’t the girl he signed up for. His excuse for the barely legal girls he was following was to “network.” He had a local small business in our neighboring university town and he was following 18 year old girls in their freshman year of college who had visited his business. (He was 33 at the time). He was also incredibly controlling and judgmental, racist, sexist, homophobic. Had no empathy, told me to just go ahead and get on welfare like the rest of my family because I would never be a functioning adult and that I was bringing him down/holding him back with my negativity and anxiety. He also came from an upper middle class family and so I never felt I could measure up to him or his family’s standards. They were incredibly pretentious like him. I ended up finally breaking up with him for good in July 2019 after so much emotional abuse and confusion. I didn’t believe I ever had the right to be upset or stand up for myself with him because all the issues he had with me were rooted in truth. It is absolutely foreign to me to expect someone to change for me or to adjust their behavior because I’m uncomfortable with something. My brain just tells me they have the right to do what they want to do and no one inherently deserves or owes anyone anything. It’s like I’m being unfair. This is the problem I have where I don’t know how to advocate for myself or set boundaries. I rationalize everyone’s behavior and judgment but my own, I guess because I feel my perspective can’t be trusted. I feel like I still haven’t moved on from the issues this guy made me see about myself and my family.
I wish I could be unbothered by the liking of photos and such. I feel like if they aren’t liking photos, they can be flirting on another platform, and it just boils down to trust and that’s where it’s my problem. I also understand the loud voice/raising of voice during conversation, that one is also a trigger for me. I just still cannot believe my ex also lied to me about the trans coworker. I sincerely wanted to believe that he was just protecting their pronouns. I’m still in so much denial, I guess.
StacyParticipantHi, Helcat
Thank you for your encouragement and understanding. And yes, the whole reason why I even went on a dating app was because I was tired of being so lonely and not having anyone in my corner or with my same interests. All my friends are married or living with others, and I am almost 32 and absolutely tired of spending all my days with my family and having no privacy and no real life of my own. Like I mentioned in previous posts, I was so excited to carve out my own life with him. Not just because he provided me with safety and acceptance but because we clicked so well and were on the same page about so many things. I think over time though, he saw he wasn’t on the same page with me about some things and just didn’t know how to admit it to himself. Maybe. He was so unique to me with his perspective on life and his sense of humor and his curiosity about stuff, constantly wanting to learn, being understanding to other perspectives without anger, etc. that really attracted me to him. He loved animals and critters so much, he was so gentle with all animals. It is a nice sentiment to believe that maybe all those things I liked in him were attracted to me because I exude those things too. I hope you’re right. I thought he WAS that person I needed to be around because he seemed to embrace every part of me and celebrate me. I miss having my person, the only person I could turn to and wanted to turn to. I had to take away everything he bought me and all of our shared experience items and box it all up and put it in the basement. I just cannot believe how little I ended up actually meaning to him, and I can’t believe how badly I misinterpreted things by my own expectations. I know I keep saying it but I REALLY cannot believe him. He seemed to adore me. And I still don’t trust that my boundary about liking photos was even warranted. I know that I can’t even begin to move forward until I feel that my trust being broken was even real. I feel like I overreacted. But he’s not doing anything to try to talk it out. I don’t know.
And yes, the banana thing really makes sense to me because I can eat a banana once in a blue moon with no issues, but most of the time a banana is a total no-go for me. I do notice the ultra ripe ones do better for me too. It’s just mostly best for me to avoid fruit smoothies nowadays since most seem to do a number on my throat. Since I switched out my medication, my throat has been doing very poorly with the foods I usually can halfway tolerate. I’m not sure if it’s just the medication, or a lot more to do with my constant crying and anxiety over this breakup.
I appreciate your words of encouragement and your faith in me to rise above this like I always have, but I’m genuinely worried I won’t. I never really have ever healed abandonment wounds and feelings of unworthiness after a breakup. I just keep adding baggage and trust issues with new men. But I also know that with this defeatist attitude, I’m disserving myself badly. It’s like I see what’s wrong, but my habits are so strong and my negative thinking is so automatic that I cannot even begin to believe something good about myself. When I was in counseling, we tried to rewire my brain to start believing the good stuff. I know I have to somehow convince myself. It’s just so incredibly hard when I keep being dumped over my issues and insecurities.
StacyParticipantHi, Anita
Addressing the first of your message – yes, I do not think I’m worthy and lovable. I think I am constantly projecting and so I do not trust myself. I feel like my anxious attachment and trust issues from being wronged by men in the past make me unlovable. I do look too into things. I feel that my eating issues and health anxiety is objectively hard to live with and be around, as everyone in my life has admitted this to me. I know I need to prove to myself I can make myself feel like an adult woman and learn to feel safe in my own body instead of relying on a guy to make me feel safe. I will never be able to make confident decisions without this. I want to not ever feel like this again with someone and I know I will until I fix this. I guess I don’t have the faith in myself, and also attachment issues aside, I just really miss him as a person and his personality. I miss his face, I miss his voice and sense of humor. I miss our dates and how much fun we had just playing off of each other and our effortless banter. He told me so many times how much he appreciated how comfortable he was with me. He said I was the first girl he ever wanted to hold hands with and it felt right. I guess I’m just too in the thick of it still. I sincerely hope this lessens. It’s not fair that I’m hung up on all of this about him and he felt it was okay to completely drop me from his life. Life isn’t fair though. And I sincerely appreciate your patience and kindness towards me.
I am sorry that you had that experience and realization with your mom. It’s such a difficult realization for me because my mom has always loved me in the ways she knew how – cooking for me and trying to take care of me when I was sick. But beyond that, I think she just cannot be available for me like you said, especially if it’s over things she can’t relate to. She’s preoccupied by her own misery. My mom had a very emotionally unavailable mother and they lived without running water or electricity. So I know her way of showing me love has been Christmas presents and monetary expressions of love when she can. It’s why Christmas is so depressing for me, I want to fast forward straight through it. I see her attempts to love me with this. I feel pity for her that she wastes her money she doesn’t even have (it all is on credit cards) only to STILL feel unhappy with her life as soon as Christmas is over. And then I feel guilty for it because my sister tells me I should be happy at Christmas and make mom happy.
I constantly look at other places to stay and you’re right that any other place with a peaceful schedule could be better. My car broke down AGAIN last night. I’m stuck at home physically when this happens, but also stuck because I keep having to put my paychecks into fixing the car rather than saving to move.
Oh and about the routines that I have been thinking about that my sister may get upset about: I got recently invited to attend a $10 a session yoga thing with my coworker. I have been on the fence about it because I don’t love mixing coworkers with my personal life and also this coworker is about to become my temporary manager. This coworker thinks highly of my sister because this coworker used to work for our brother and she knows way too much about us. So it’s just personal. My sister is also a local artist and my coworker admires her art. Everyone knows my sister and brother around here. My sister is the type of person who refuses to attend any event by herself. She’ll go get a coffee by herself, but not a concert or anything. I am the type who would rather do something by myself unless I share this interest with a very close friend or boyfriend. I do enjoy doing things with my sister but sometimes I want my own routine to escape her and she gets offended if I don’t invite her. So for this yoga thing to involve a coworker we both know who my sister asks about and my brother talks to us about is kind of complicated. Sorry if this was a jumble of confusion to read. This is a very small town… I can’t seem to make new connections without them being connected to someone else. Hence why I went on dating app in the first place and was cool with dating someone two hours away… lol. Not only that, but say if I want to take a craft class – my sister will want to tag along because she is very crafty and artsy. She gets jealous anytime I hang out with a friend and says passive-aggressive things like, “must be nice to have friends.”
StacyParticipantHi Anita,
I read your response on break yesterday at work and started crying because of how validating it was. Thank you for summarizing my disordered thoughts and feelings so well. That’s exactly it, it boils down to me seeking out men like this because they solve this part of me that needs to feel like a woman. Once they have me and then discard me, I’m left feeling like I wasn’t woman enough for them and that I was a child they didn’t take seriously. I’m still in complete shock that my ex lied to me about even wanting to stay in contact. I looked up the stages of grief and apparently I’m still at square one – just complete denial and inability to accept what’s happened. Today, the 22nd is also the anniversary of the first day we met in person. It’s just really hard for me and I apologize for beating a dead horse.
I say all this to say that I’m realizing that all of these goals I need to conquer for myself will be impossible until I can feel that I value my boundaries and worth more than I value him/his opinion. It’s discouraging to know that half of my suffering is due to my own insecure narrative coming up trying to find closure. It’s this half of me hurting so much that he doesn’t even know about that has nothing to do with him – if he’s even considered how he affected me once yet. It’s also discouraging to know that if I don’t rectify these things in myself, my grief and pain will be for nothing and bleed out onto the next person if they ever come along. I will look for him in everyone else, and I will tell myself again that I was able to entertain and attract someone of high value but that once I show them love, the chase is over for them and they get bored and turned off by the REAL me.
And you’re right – my mom doesn’t really try to connect with me at home anyway. I guess the same could be said for me, I feel guilty for going to my bedroom when I get home. But the only connection I want is to be heard by her and I don’t see it. I think my mom and I would have a better relationship with each other if I were happier and if she were happier. She’s been so annoyed and disappointed in me for how slowly I’m taking this breakup. She needs me to be okay so she can feel okay, and sadly I see myself in that. The enmeshment you mentioned playing out right there. I definitely don’t have the money to move out still but I’m hoping to get there. I have two part time jobs and they just aren’t cutting it, especially with no health insurance. My medical bills and medication are a problem, on top of constant car repair bills. There are talks of me hopefully getting full time at one of my jobs after December if their budget allows it and I can get health insurance then. This would change my life and maybe I could save over the span of the next year and finally get myself out of this hole. If not, I will have to leave the job. I had hoped to move out on my own before I ever moved in with my ex. I wish that he had recognized that I wasn’t trying to push him. I wasn’t ready for THAT either. But I definitely still feel the loss of the emotional support from him and his family. I guess I did hope to carve out my own path and growth with their attention and emotional support. I wanted to be validated by people who were seemingly emotionally regulated/healthy. To be chosen by people like him felt like I was doing something right and I wasn’t a failure. And yes, I’m hoping to find a routine outside of this house and also without my sister. She gets hurt if I don’t include her in my plans by myself.
StacyParticipantHi, Anita
Yes, you’re right about the ex. As I mentioned at the end of my reply to Helcat, I know that this is the time I need to be using for myself and focusing on my health. Unfortunately, I am still being completely consumed by grief and I’m trying really hard to just make it through each day. Also shock because I keep going back through memories where he’d reassure me unprompted and seemed like I really meant the world to him. That is why I hope I am not coming across like a brick wall and like I am not hearing what you are saying to me. I forgot to mention that my ex and his mom who loved me both struggled with eating issues/food allergies and they were very understanding to my situation. I’ve never had that in a relationship before. I think I’m also mourning losing that comfort as well.
I do believe that the constant high levels of cortisol in my body caused my EOE and thyroid dysfunction. I think there was a time right after the choking incident that my phobia was probably the only thing really running the show but maybe years of this intense stress built up caused EOE. I was put on Pantoprazole (generic for Protonix) after my diagnosis to combat the side effects and damage from EOE and it seemed to help me. It definitely wasn’t a miracle drug but it did seem to improve my quality of life over the 5 years I took it. Unfortunately I cannot take pills and because this is an extended release capsule, I had to have it compounded into a liquid at my pharmacy. In late July, Pantoprazole went commercial and the liquid form I take went up from $28 to $5,000. It was a HUGE blow to my eating anxiety and sense of safety knowing this really important medication was no longer an option for me. This is also why I referenced that July was one of the worst months of my life. It completely triggered those feelings of helplessness from before I got the EOE diagnosis and before I had medication to mitigate it. I just switched to a more affordable option but I’m worried it’s gonna not be as effective.
I’m very sorry to hear about your experiences with food early on as well and how this affected you. I am going to try to create my own routine like you suggested. I feel completely out of order right now. I want to feel secure, any semblance of security in myself would help. Going back to my dysfunctional family issues we discussed before, I know a daily routine in my house is difficult. No one goes to work or school in my house aside from me and I live with 4 other people. My niece and nephew are homeschooled and they are not on any schedule. My sister has severe insomnia so she doesn’t have then on a sleep schedule. They stay up until 7-8 am and sleep in all day. In fact as I type this, it is 3:41 am and my sister is arguing with my nephew in the room next to me. So when I need to sleep, the house is loud and chaotic. When I come home or want to socialize and hang out with my family, I have to tip toe around the house and be quiet for them or I just don’t even get to hang out with them. My mom watches Gunsmoke all day and tunes me out. I don’t get much rest or peace at this house. It’s why I also fantasied and counted the days for when I got to go see my ex, and for my future apartment where he could come visit me with no interruptions. I’m just absolutely tired of living in dysfunction and no discipline or routine. I’m frustrated at my sister for her lack of discipline in her kids because it reminds me of the lack of discipline we got from our mom. I WANTED guidance and rules and routine. I got chaos and isolation back then, and these same themes seem to be replaying in front of me with my sister and her kids now. I sound very ungrateful, but I do appreciate my family and I know my sister would do anything for me. I will start thinking about some kind of routine I CAN do in the midst of this. After work, I never want to go home so I usually get myself a soda or just go sit in a parking lot until I know I can’t avoid it any longer. I’d consider that a routine of sorts, but it’s also kind of avoidance of my issues. As for the tangible object suggestion, I might could try to carry a pebble or something with me.
StacyParticipantHi, Helcat
Thank you for your encouragement. I often feel like I’m not doing enough to improve my health issues but it’s usually that the more I look into things, the more triggered I become. And yes, it’s extremely frustrating and hard to pinpoint specific culprits that are causing me the most issues when my symptoms seem sporadic.
Also, yes I live off of soft foods mostly. It’s not that I can swallow milkshakes and soft or pureed food easier because my throat reacts better to them, it’s more so just that I can mentally know that they will not get lodged as easily as “real” food can. My throat reacts poorly to milkshakes because dairy causes me issues, and a lot of fruit smoothies destroy my throat – they are THE WORST even though they are technically soft and “easier” to swallow. The dietician I saw told me that fruit can be a common issue because of the way it is harvested, I don’t know. Water doesn’t help my choking sensation either. I am afraid of choking on my own saliva when my symptoms and my mental phobia of choking are at their worst. Water actually makes me very nauseous and it often makes me feel like it makes my GERD worse. The dietician I saw also told me that this was an EOE thing where my body is allergic to water in a way. I didn’t understand this, and I only went to her once because I couldn’t afford another follow up. I don’t have health insurance so all of these tests and specialists have put me in a lot of financial debt.
I kind of just try to live off of protein shakes and my “safer” foods and sometimes I can do more solid food. Also, your questions don’t bother me, I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I will say that because I am in such a horrible emotional and mental state right now that I am a lot more sensitive to thinking about my health. I am just in such a funk that all my energy is being taken up right now with grief. Which is unfortunate because this is the time for me to be thinking more of myself than him. I hope that I can focus more on my health if I can get to a better place where I am not crying multiple times daily and losing sleep and appetite over this.
StacyParticipantHi, Helcat,
Thank you for your post, I am sorry you also struggle with so many symptoms. I am glad to hear that you have gotten to a place where they are more manageable and less scary for you. I also have GERD. I notice I feel wheezy and tight chested when my GERD is acting up, so it’s interesting how all of these things you were mentioning can be related. I frequently feel like my throat is closing up and spasming, so I’m sure that my anxiety definitely is a factor of the choking sensation along with everything else. My daily allergies cause constant postnasal drip in my throat and makes it feel like I am choking too. I actually went to an allergist in 2019 and they tested me for many things but not food to my knowledge. I was upset because I thought they would test for food. I am only aware of being super allergic to dust mites (I sleep with allergen covers on my mattress and pillow) grass, pet dander, pollen, certain trees. I went to a dietician in 2021 and tried the elimination diet. It was virtually impossible to do correctly because I mostly can only eat potatoes and dairy. (Dairy causes issues with mucus but I’m not as physically afraid of choking on a milkshake, if that makes sense). I tried to switch to plant protein shakes, and I cut out soy protein drinks because I read it was bad for EOE. My only food triggers I know for sure are tomato soup, fruit of any kind, acidic stuff that messes with my GERD, rice, and pasta. I can’t really figure out food triggers because one day I can eat a certain food well, then two days later it’s like I’m choking on it. My eating experiences just vary by the day. My gastroenterologist mentioned that EOE flares up for various reasons so that may have something to do with it too.
And thank you for your well wishes. It is validating to know that what I’m dealing with is natural to feel such levels of stress over. Back in counseling, I was told I probably have PTSD from it, yes. I would say I have very little coping skills to deal with this. It’s very hard to get a handle on my symptoms and triggers when I am constantly having to relive my choking phobia by eating multiple times daily. And when my throat messes up with the food – which it does daily in some way, along with unpredictable food experiences – I can’t turn off the intense fear. When I was in therapy, I was given some redirection tools for when I was triggered by any physical sensation. But nothing takes away that feeling in the moment of being absolutely certain I’m choking, or that I am in danger over a physical sensation not even related to eating. For example, if something falls on my head or I just bump my head on something, I am convinced I have a concussion for at least 2-3 days. OBSESSIVE fear until I can tell myself that enough time has passed for concussion symptoms to pop up. This is just one example of many triggers throughout my day. I don’t know how to tell myself that a physical sensation is not “true.”
StacyParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for the kind words. They mean a lot during a time where I’m questioning everything about myself. Also, I greatly appreciate your long posts, or any type of response you have the time and energy for. Your research into EOE and it’s relation to anxiety/stress was very interesting to read. I used to be on an EOE Facebook support page to try to understand it more, but I had to leave it immediately after others were sharing their stories of choking on various foods. My anxiety will convince me that if someone else chokes on a certain food, I will too.
I think you could be right that my ex is just chronically parroting what he’s heard his whole life living with therapist parents. I’m not even sure it’s intentional. He admitted to me himself that he thought that “putting on a tough and positive persona” was what he thought I needed, despite him falling apart inside. Maybe that was a cop-out for not being honest with me about falling out of love or losing interest, I’m not sure. I don’t understand what the motive was to stay with me and still visit me for a year if he was unhappy. Or what the motive was to keep constantly reassuring me if he didn’t mean it and had fallen out of love. Unfortunately for me, words of affirmation are my love language. His words were exactly the words I’ve always dreamed of finally hearing from a partner. For him to claim I was so important to him just three weeks ago already to being left on read for a week makes me question if anything he ever said to me was even true. I realize he is not obligated to continue dating me, and that people can change their minds about how they feel about someone. I also realize that he’s not obligated to keep in frequent contact with me anymore, but it hurts regardless. I feel like I don’t have the right to be upset about him changing his mind and also about him deciding to stop reaching out and sharing his personal life with me anymore. I’m just absolutely still in shock and confusion, and now I’m starting to feel resentment for him seemingly lying about even wanting a close friendship with me.
I have heard of the cortisol and inflammation connection, but I never connected it to a possible cause for my EOE. I forgot to mention that during that time of ages 12-13 where my mom tried to get me help, the only thing found was that I had Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism. I’m wondering if there is any correlation to these autoimmune diseases and my extremely high levels of cortisol and inflammation as well. I’m constantly outside of my window of tolerance.
It’s hopeful to hear that my suffering may be lessening with age in relation to my EOE, but my choking phobia just keeps me stuck. I can have a “good” EOE day but if I’m worrying excessively about choking that day, I’ll not be able to eat regardless from the fear of swallowing. But it’s mostly the physical sensation of choking (either from EOE, stress, GERD, allergies or asthma) so this is all very complicated for me and it’s hard to explain it to doctors. I can see how everything is physical, like your therapist said.
I am sorry that you also struggled with your self-image in regards to your weight in school. I’m glad for both of us that we at least made it through that chapter. I’m still underweight for my age and height and as you know, it’s still greatly affecting my self -image especially in regards to my attractiveness to men. Chronic stress is harming me for sure. This breakup has already caused me to lose 5 pounds, so I’m extremely frustrated with myself about that. Anxiety and panic to this level depletes my appetite and triggers my choking phobia so badly. I am also so sorry to hear about your struggles with Tourette syndrome and I can see how that must be very frustrating to deal with. I am also just a stranger on the internet, but I see you are very resilient. I think the Serenity prayer is very fitting here too, I’ll pray it tonight.
StacyParticipantHi, Anita.
Thank you for caring so much about me and my situation. I didn’t take your post offensively, it’s just that my rumination is so terrible and unhinged. I didn’t want to make it seem like I’m not appreciating/absorbing your perspective. I was planning on responding but I just am in such a funk. You relating to me about your own struggles has been very helpful.
I thought when my ex said, “I honestly don’t know what I would do without you” and, “We will figure this out and get through this together,” that he meant we were still gonna be in regular and supportive contact. Right after the breakup, he was still sending me personal stuff. However, he’s currently left me on read since Tuesday. Tonight, he posted a story of the first photo of himself since our breakup and a video of him out with a female and male at a restaurant getting drinks. It sent me into the worst spiral I’ve been in since the night of the breakup. I know he’s avoidant and he’s probably not even felt the feelings of this breakup yet (if he even ever will). I know his brain is different than mine too. He doesn’t even know I’m upset about any of this. His social behavior now is contradictory to the private behavior I saw the whole year I knew him. I think tomorrow I am going to have to reach out to him and tell him I need to cease contact with him until I can feel better, then unfollow him. Seeing him seemingly moving on so easily without me and not sharing his daily life with me anymore is killing me.
In reference to me saying he never shamed me for my relationship and health paranoia – yes, that’s why for the first time ever, I felt accepted. It DOES get too much for people around me. My ex never made me feel like this even after I’d inquire if I was affecting him negatively, not until the night of the breakup when he told me part of why it wasn’t working anymore was because of my issues.
When I was 12 years old, I choked on a cough drop and nearly died. and developed a severe choking and swallowing phobia. I feel like my life ended that day. I felt like I was choking on everything after this, due to the paranoia of it happening again but also because I started feeling like all my food was getting lodged. I lost 20 pounds and was accused of being anorexic in school. I was down to only 63 pounds in 7th grade at the height of this. (It’s part of this why I still don’t feel physically like a woman. I feel like men see a child when they look at me, even though I’ve since gained weight). I felt incredibly alone in my health struggles since it was never resolved. My mom tried for a bit to get me medical help but with no resolution. Years later, I tried to take my health into my own hands. At 26, it was discovered I also have Eosinophilic esophagitis, a disease that causes difficulty with swallowing food. EOE also caused three severe strictures in my esophagus and was the reason for my trouble swallowing food all of these years, aside from the mental phobia of it. Kind of both factors triggering each other. I genuinely fear I have developed some form of OCD from this. Every single day, I can have the slightest physical sensation and I have to talk myself down or need to seek reassurance that I’m not in danger. It’s EXTREME and I can’t be talked out of things. It’s ruined my life and my relationships. I’ve been reading a lot into health anxiety/OCD and I’m beginning to wonder if this is overlapping with my extreme rumination and obsessive thinking and need to “figure out” my relationship and breakup as well. The amount of reassurance seeking with this breakup is absolutely depleting me and everyone I reach out to. This makes me worry that every subsequent relationship will be met with this issue. My constant compulsion to seek reassurance is the only thing that makes me feel momentarily safe. CBT was helpful to learn about my family issues, but never remotely helped my obsessions and compulsions related to my health anxiety.
StacyParticipantHi, Anita.
Thank you, I will look into those meditations. And you’re right, the logic I keep trying to find in him is pointless. I don’t understand how someone seemingly so committed for months can just lose feelings so easily. Or how someone could enjoy a relationship with someone they never even planned on staying with, yet they discussed vasectomy plans with. The only rationalization my brain can understand is that he would become committed for the “right” woman who gives him “tough love.” I appreciate you for offering me alternative rationalizations for his behavior. I hope to get to where I can truly shut out my negative self-talk and blame.
I feel he’s now taking my friendship for granted as he seemed to do with our relationship. Maybe I’m wrong about both. The drastic change in energy from him in just the last week feels awful. I should probably go no contact for now even though I know that if I do this, I will most likely never hear from him again. I don’t want to ghost him, but I don’t know how to tell him that I need a pause from him without feeling more pathetic. As you said, I guess nothing I can do or say will really affect anything he feels about me.
Also, yes my brother has been evaluated and he does have sensory triggers, OCD, etc. Especially considering he can not verbally express any emotions. He started having his episodes at age 2 before their partying took off, but it’s no doubt they added fuel to the fire. My sister would often yell at my parents for it. He is in very good hands currently where they take his health seriously and I am VERY grateful to his caretakers. We visit him often so that’s really nice.
Your NYC story resonated so much with me. I’ve tried to make my own experiences on my own. And then as soon as I try to include my family, they stress out over the new experience. I have to be the “guide” while we get frustrated with each other. I can’t seem to enjoy or recreate the experiences I had (with the person who “impressed” me) with my family or friends, and I can’t enjoy the experiences without them. I feel guilty and unappreciative. Your experience gives me some hope that I can work my way through this ongoing problem. I’ve been aware of it since I was in therapy, but perhaps this breakup was a final warning. No more relationships and life experiences where I feel inherently unworthy and guilty would be great.
My mom frequently expresses how money is her only solution to happiness. I try to tell her that she needs to find hobbies that bring her joy and meaning to her life. She gets offended and tells me that all of her hobbies require money or her health, and that all of the constant repairs and debt she has keeps her trapped. I don’t want to accept that my mom is right about money because if she is right, I can’t be mad at her for doing nothing to help herself. I feel like I can’t tell her to stop complaining to me because she’s getting old and I don’t want to cause her any more distress than I already do. Weeks before my breakup, I was having the worst financial and health related month (July) and my health anxiety was obsessive (still is). She went off on me and said I was insufferable to live with. My sister agreed and said I was negatively affecting our mom’s health. To hear this same sentiment coming from my ex as one of the reasons for why he lost feelings for me on the night he broke up with me was not easy to take. I know I need professional help with my health anxiety. I cannot afford it, and this only reinforces my fears of what my mom says about money.
StacyParticipantHi, Anita.
Thank you again, and your explanation over my stunted emotional growth is very helpful. I struggle immensely with self-regulating and trusting my own judgement. And yes, the attention and safety I felt from him was next level. My parents always struggled so badly with money and emotional/educational support for my autistic brother in the 90’s. Back when I was in counseling, my counselor suggested this may have been where my family enmeshment began – we had no outside support and we were in our own little helpless “bubble.” It was a liability issue to bring people in to help us. My dad had to quit his job to help my mom with my brother full-time at a certain point. I felt from at least the age of four that my parents were not capable of keeping me safe anymore because I could see them fearing for their own safety with how destructive my brother was getting. Plus, they coped with this isolation with alcohol. My teenage sister had to step in the role of my mother. When I am “adopted” by people who don’t struggle with these same things, life feels lighter and I get to escape my reality. But as you shared about your own experiences, I’m also met with immense guilt for getting to enjoy this peace without my family. I fear that bettering myself will only ever be met with this guilt. I truly feel for you as you say you’ve struggled with this too. I hope that you’re able to find moments of joy for yourself.
And no, I never saw any threats to my ex’s claims or intentions with me because he was a self-proclaimed dork who would rather play video games at this stage in his life than go out and party. He waited for months to have sex with me until I was ready and never once made me feel pressured, so I felt like he wasn’t the supposed bad person from his past. I never thought “wandering eyes” or him out late to dinner with an attractive coworker was even something I’d have to worry about. I thought that choosing a likeminded girl who appreciated mattered more than careless flings. Our dates were always dork fests of fun and he orchestrated most of them. I did think his passion for us would transition eventually into more. He used to refer to hypothetical future plans as if we were a team. I had assumed we’d move closer to each other and get our own places first. I worry that in the FaceTime breakup call, me saying “moving in” and “possibly marriage one day” completely gave him the wrong idea and he ran for good. I don’t even know if I want marriage ever to anyone. I was just trying to bring home the idea that I was committed.
His inability to follow through with life planning possibly affecting him not getting a degree like the rest of his family is also something we discussed. He told me school was not for him with how his brain works. He went to trade school and got a very well paying welding job. But then COVID hit and his company was laid off. I tried to tell him that his skills are in different areas than his family and that he should be proud of his unique talents. He scoffed. It frustrated me that he never seemed to absorb any of my compliments or support. I always wondered if me having my bachelor’s degree ever bothered him. My degree was only made possible through many Pell grants, Chegg, and the jobs I worked while in school. I had online classes because I could never afford on campus or to move. He seemed proud of my degree when we first met, but I wore my alumni sweatshirt with him a month ago or so and he mocked it jokingly.
My family definitely couldn’t afford senior care. However, my mom, sister, and I have all worked in a nursing home before and we’ve seen horrors so I’d feel a lot of guilt to send my mom there. And no, I don’t think I ever expected or hoped for his family to financially take burden off of me or my family. I want to prove to myself I can do things and I’d be too embarrassed to accept that. I think it was more so the illusion by proxy of feeling like I can have room to be hopeful and not feel constantly helpless. I had hoped he and I could build a life together, to save up for trips and such as a team. You’re probably right – he wasn’t deeply thinking about anything.
He messaged me last night after almost three full days of leaving me on read and not updating me about his dad’s condition like he said he would on Saturday. He sent me photos of his cat in a similar bat wing cat harness that I had joked about buying him before we broke up. I was completely confused and chose to not open the message fully or respond until tonight after work. I acknowledged the cat and then I asked him how his dad was. He replied that he’s getting the “best care in this Italian hospital.”
StacyParticipantHi, Helcat.
Thank you for the encouragement. I actually haven’t been in therapy since 2019. I’d love to go back but I just can’t afford it anymore. So I really appreciate the help and listening ears from this forum.
I guess I worry now that I spoke up too often and didn’t pick my battles with him. It’s incredibly hard to stand up for myself and create boundaries because I see the other person’s perspective TOO much and I think that I’m not being fair. However, I have to remember that he claims he ended this more so because it was a loss of attraction to me rather than my judgement of him. I suppose me pointing this one out was just the last straw for him and he couldn’t fake it anymore. Like you said, I guess he just was not ready for a relationship and for the accountability it required. I can’t stomach the fact that he lost feelings for me, though. When we first met, he talked at length at how ready he was to finally have a real companion and share life with them.
StacyParticipantHi, Anita.
Thank you for your response and also yes, I absolutely can condense my thoughts more from now on. As you can see, I have trouble summarizing but I will do my best in respect of your time. I really appreciate all of this.
I think your entire post is completely on point. So you’re saying that because I felt validation, refuge, acceptance, etc. in him and his family that it made me feel safe to finally resume my growth that was stunted in me? That maybe if I had been afforded these same qualities and opportunities I so longed for in my parents that I would have been able to develop properly? Or better, I guess. I also think the attention I got from a guy who usually only went for the conventionally attractive “popular” girls stroked my ego. I was bullied all through school by the popular jock types and the cheerleaders. I wanted to be accepted by them. Interesting though that he was not your stereotypical player, he’s a self-proclaimed beta nerd and that’s another reason why it’s hard to accept he could really be just like all the other toxically alpha men out there.
I know this relationship was also a form of escapism because as soon as I come home from my job, I see my mom sitting on the couch all day long in pain and self-wallowing, and the septic tank repair bill or some other stressful and real life issue constantly plaguing us that I have to take responsibility for or emotionally support her over. I don’t feel like I get to have my own adult life or sense of identity outside of her and these issues so perhaps dating this guy also gave me a sense of MY OWN LIFE. I’ve never moved out of the house or had my own separate life outside of her. No wonder I’m mourning so many losses with him. It seems like money issues and repairs constantly keep us stuck in a hole and the thought of just a day trip somewhere for fun is unimaginable for my family. Meanwhile, his parents were just on a 3 week trip to Italy. Sadly, my mom is already heading towards 70 in a few months and I fear more than anything that by the time I’ll be finally able to move out, she’s gonna need me more than ever. I don’t want to abandon her when her health goes seriously downhill. I could never live with myself if something happened to her without me being there for her. I know I have to live my own life, but the guilt I’d feel from that would be horrific. I had found common ground with my ex over this too, as his parents were in their 70’s as well and he understood my concerns. He felt the same sense of responsibility to his parents.
Your point about me looking much more into things than him is also probably what happened. I know on most subjects that was our dynamic and we’d even joke about it. I saw a lot of emotional availability and intentionality from him at the beginning into a few months of dating. I genuinely thought I felt his passion for me for awhile so I hope I wasn’t imagining that. It hurts to think he never saw a future with me or any sort of commitment from the start, and rather he treated us as a guinea pig first relationship project. That makes it feel like EVERYTHING was a lie or wasn’t genuine for him and he was thinking of future prospects this whole time. After I asked him what his first impression of me was when he first saw me, he said, “that this girl is definitely gonna ruin my life.” I took that to mean that he felt I was out of his league and I’d break his heart. Funny how the roles reversed. I feel the sad truth is that regardless of all of the details of what caused what, he lost attraction to me and this relationship at some point and I can’t help but feel so embarrassed about being led on. I guess it’s for the best he finally ended it if that’s truly how he feels. It’s just hard to know how to feel about him because I don’t know what his motives were. If he didn’t mean to do any of this harm, that’s one thing. If it was intentional and careless and he just used me as a rebound, that’s another.
StacyParticipantHi Anita.
I appreciate your kind words so much tonight, thank you. I will wait for your other messages tomorrow like you said but I just wanted to chime in and say that I have been pondering these very questions you’re asking me in your latest post. I have never been chosen or wanted by a guy who I find attractive and impressive. Not until this guy. I was enamored by how attracted I was to him in every way, and I absolutely felt that he was super impressive. I’ve never been flattered by other men finding me attractive and for me to have this with him made me finally feel like a woman. Like if this “ladies man/player” in a way finds me attractive that I somehow am now actually sexy. I know this is messed up and it’s always been a problem for me where I feel perpetually stunted with my physical body and my place in life. I don’t feel like a woman. When I have sex with men, I feel like a 12 year old, which is probably very uncomfortable to read but it’s true. I just genuinely do not believe a conventionally attractive man who has an impressive life and travel or sexual experiences with other affluent women could recognize me as a sexually attractive woman. It may sound shallow, but I just want to feel like a woman, a capable woman and to be desired by a man who actually impresses me. He was that guy for me and it’s hard to lose and makes me feel like the only reason why someone could dump me is because I wasn’t able to keep his attention or desire, and because he saw I was a dead end financially and life experience-wise. My life is a lot more bleak compared to the women he is lusting after. They travel literally all over the world and they are all hyper-sexually liberated women.
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