Thanks Helcat

I’ve never been comfortable with the words enlightenment or for that matter the word meditation. Like most westerners the tendency to apply measurements and judgments to the words get in the way.

I’ve been looking into Krishnamurti life who uses a kind of Socratic method to look past our constructs. He’s not a easy read but I think he would agree with your thoughts on the ‘stages in meditation’

I’ve been playing around with a slow realization that ‘Stillness’, Calm, ‘Silence’, Eternity… are not measurement’s, are not things to be measured. I find it freeing. Neurologically I suspect these are right brain experiences.

My mediation a kind of Ying Yang flow between the left and right spheres of the brain.  Carry water chop wood (left side) AND Carry water chop wood (right side)  The Doings are the same but the experience different.