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    Anonymous
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    Hi everyone, I could really do with some help, sorry if this is a long rambling post. I recently started dating a friend I’ve known for a year- although he had a girlfriend in between, we’ve established we both liked each other from the beginning. Things have been pretty intense between us for the last month(s) after he told me he had feelings for me and broke up with his gf. I insisted we took it slow as I didn’t want to put pressure on things, but he’d message me lots and we spent a lot of time together. I’ve been told by mutual friends that in recent weeks he’d been telling them he was “head over heels in love with me”. Although he never said that to me, he said several times that he was deliberately being less intense than usual so as not to freak me out, because he was worried I’d run off and disappear from his life completely (he knows that’s my natural tendency if things go wrong). He also said he wanted us to be together long term, which I believed, and I know he also told his family and colleagues how much he liked me, since one of his colleagues took me aside and told me when I met them. However, I have trust issues and kept being paranoid that he’d go off me since basically I think he is too good for me, which I tried to communicate but I’m not sure he got it. Anyway, things were finally progressing between us but then this weekend I feel like something changed.

    We were out with friends and had a silly incident- he handed me my toothbrush at the bar, i immediately assumed he’d brought it from his house as a hint that he didn’t want me staying there any more so I stormed off home without saying goodbye. I then messaged him to say “sorry for the crazy behaviour- to be honest I really like you and I don’t know how to handle it- but I also thought it was a dick move with the toothbrush” but he then said the toothbrush actually dropped out of my bag at the bar (I’d bought it in case I stayed at his) and he was trying to return it discreetly so I wasn’t embarrassed! I came straight back and apologised/tried to make a joke about it, but although he was smiling he did seem a bit off and was like “we’re fine.. until I do something else wrong”. That eve we went back to his and I was looking after him because he was ill, but he was being v affectionate and I left as usual the next morning. However, I then didn’t hear from him (despite knowing he’s ok as he was posting in a group chat we’re both part of), so I messaged him on tuesday and received only a short reply and no suggestion of plans to meet. I therefore freaked out that he was going to dump me and sent him the following message:

    “Hey, look- I obviously feel like something is different here. Maybe this is jumping the gun but I’m gonna trust my gut and give ‘this’ some space (not disappearing forever but just gonna stay at my mum’s for a bit, which I’ve been meaning to do for ages, and avoid whatsapp!) and will assume we’re gonna leave whatever ‘this’ was. Probably best if you replace me on [x] at least temporarily in the group too, permanently if you want to- maybe it is finally [our mutual friend]’s time to shine. I just wanna say though it has been so fun being in the group, genuinely thanks for having me. I’ve also really loved getting to know you, I think you’re so great. Even if it really sucks when someone changes their mind like this. But, I get it. I think you had me on a bit of a pedestal and in real life I could never live up to it. Hopefully I’ll get over any resulting upset and we can be friends or something in future”.

    I also then stupidly sent “no need to reply. It’s fine, honestly”, and he never did reply so I haven’t heard anything from him. I’m totally gutted that things have ended and I’m going crazy wondering what happened- I assume he just decided he had to restrict his behaviour too much around me and my insecurities were too much for him to handle or something. But I also don’t know if he was playing me all along and just ran for the hills when he realised I actually liked him too, or as I said, he just liked the fantasy version of me. I would have thought he could at least reply and say something like “sorry I changed my mind romantically, but we can still be friends and don’t feel you have to leave the group” or something. I so regret not speaking to him about it before pulling the plug, and am wondering if there is anything I can do to remedy this situation now or if it’s best that I just accept it, give him space and don’t contact him again. I hate myself for managing to put him off so quickly (I’ve been trying to work on my self esteem and not be too crazy), and something that had been building for so long is apparently over and I assume I’ll never see him again.

    #328941
    Anonymous
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    Dear Sarah:

    Welcome back, good to read from you again.

    Regarding the bar incident and what followed: you had your toothbrush in your purse but forgot that you did. It fell to the floor, he picked it up and handed it to you. You misunderstood and thought he brought your toothbrush to the bar intending to hand it to you as a gesture that meant that he doesn’t want you in his home anymore. You stormed out, later your misunderstanding was cleared and you apologized. Later he was affectionate with you. Some time after that you messaged him and he sent you back “a short reply and no suggestions of plans to meet”.

    You then assumed (again) that he changed his mind about you, that the relationship was over (because he saw you as you really were, not good enough for him), and you sent him a goodbye message: “(I) will assume we’re gonna leave whatever ‘this’ was.. it really sucks when someone changes their mind like this. But, I get it. I think you had me on a bit of a pedestal and in real life I could never live up to  it”

    You then sent “no need to reply. It’s fine, honestly”- and he didn’t reply.

    My input: in the beginning of your post you wrote “I have trust issues”, so did he. You wrote “I think he is too good for me”, this is probably what he thought too, that he is not good enough for you. You were scared having strong feelings strongly for him, and he was probably scared having strong feelings for you.

    You got so scared of that the scenario that you imagined  (that he will find out you are not good enough for him, and break up with you), that you fast forwarded it twice,  in the bar and later after his short reply, ending the first by storming out of the bar, and the second with that “no need to reply”.

    All the while, motivated by fear and anger. My goodness, that was a fast fast-forwarding of a story that didn’t happen, twice.

    I imagine that he is troubled, as would anyone be, by your behavior. I know you are. But this is not necessarily the end of this new love story, and it is definitely not the end of your story. What you have done, I have done myself, different details, different situations, yet the same. I fast forwarded the ending of possible love relationships, couldn’t handle the anxiety. And so, I understand.

    It will take some time, some insight, a getting-better, healthier process and you will be able to have a healthy love story- however imperfect- with a man.

    Regarding this man, if you can handle it, after some thought and planning, contact him and tell him that you want to talk with him. Then meet him, not in his place, not in yours, but in a public setting like a coffee shop, to talk. Tell him what happened in your mind and heart through the whole time, and ask him for his thoughts, for what’s been going on in his mind and heart. It will be like putting down on the table what really happened.

    Can you handle such a meeting?

    anita

     

     

     

    #328975
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Anita, haha yes it’s me again. Thank you so much for taking the time to read and reply to my rambling post (again). I found the replies from you and others so helpful last time that I decided to post again. Just to give you an update- I read your reply to this post earlier and decided to message the guy. I wouldn’t have had the courage to do it unless you’d said those things- I really would have 100% thought he wasn’t interested and had gone off me, but your post did really resonate, so I decided to risk it. And I’m happy to say he replied, I think basically he feels exactly what you said, and we are going to meet up and talk about it. Thank you so much for your help, honestly. I don’t know if it will work between us because I know I have a lot of issues, but for now at least I’m feeling much better! So thank you 🙂

    #328983
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Sarah:

    You are very welcome. Glad you messaged him and that he replied. It may very well work between the two of you because even though (you wrote that) you “have a lot of issues” so does he, and so do most people, in my experience. All it takes is for the two of you to help each other with your issues, this is what love should be about, helping each other.

    Post again anytime. I will be glad to read and reply to you every time you choose to post.

    anita

    #328893
    Anu
    Participant

    Hi Sarah,

    First off, it sounds like you’ve been through a really tough time. The whole relationship sounds like it must have taken alot from you, the intensity of how it started and ended.

    You say you “have trust issues and kept being paranoid that he’d go off [you] since basically [you] think he is too good for [you].” You also said that you attempted to discuss these things with him, but felt that he didn’t understand. From this example, and the example about the toothbrush at the bar, I can tell that you have very strong feelings about feeling secure about someone’s feelings for you, feeling reassured that things are solid and can last. You say you wanted to take things slow, but from the way you write, it sounds like that’s not what happened, with him messaging you constantly and asking to meet up and making strong declarations of love. These things are all fine, I guess it’s what we tend to see in the media (books and movies) about what true love is like, but they are also easy. It’s easy to throw yourself in and not consider the consequences. What’s not easy is to stand back and take your time, consider someone for who they are, listen to what they want (including how slow or fast they want to take it) and respect their feelings and needs.

    You are an anxious person who needs a lot of reassurance, especially in close relationships. From what I can tell, it sounds as if this man was not overly interested in parsing your emotional needs, or discussing where they come from and what he can do to help. Let me tell you something that has been and always will be true, forever: You are good enough. Don’t tell yourself the story that this man was your knight in shining armour, the one to lead you out of your sorry existence into joy and validity. You are valid as you are, and it’s not true that he was too good for you.

    Refusing to discuss a misunderstanding like the one you described is not just rude but also shows a lack of maturity, especially in a relationship which both of you assumed was going to be long term. Ghosting you at the end of the relationship, with no explanation, regardless of what happened before, is not okay. You deserved better. You deserved to hear the end of it, to have closure. You also write, and insinuate, many times, that you are trying to “not be too crazy.” Do you think you’re selling yourself short a little bit here? You reacted strongly to something that happened because you felt deeply about the relationship, which is how you explained yourself afterwards. Instead of taking you into his arms and noticing the depth of your feelings for him, he shamed you, characterised your reaction as hysterical, and stopped speaking to you.

    Can i be honest here, Sarah? I think you deserve better. I know this is hard. I know you loved him a lot. I know it will take a lot of time for it to be okay. But just take that time and leave things be and let them rest. Don’t try to be less crazy, because you’re not crazy. You have a big heart and very strong emotions which are all valid and you deserve and need someone who accepts all of that. Please don’t talk down to yourself. This ended for a reason, and it will feel better with time.

    #330795
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you very much Anu for your input, I found it really useful and it rings very true. I’ve had some contact with the guy over Christmas, as I mentioned to Anita, but I don’t get the impression he’s overly keen to meet up and work things out. I tried to keep messaging to a minimum, but asked him to meet up in a few days to talk and he has agreed. My friends have insisted that I need to meet him face to face to explain what happened rather than just always wonder, in case we could sort it out. But I feel like it’s going to be so hard to see him again and I get the feeling he has already made up his mind we should just be friends- I wish he’d explicitly say he just wants to be friends beforehand if that’s the case so I get some prior warning, but don’t feel I should ask. The thing is I don’t think I can be friends with him if I still have feelings for him, so this will likely be the last time I ever see him. It’s such an overwhelming thought and I feel like I have been forced to instigate my own dumping, again- I’m just not sure I’m strong enough to see him and go through with it. However, if I think about what you have said, maybe I do deserve better, and maybe he isn’t the one for me. Which makes the situation slightly more tolerable and less overwhelming. So, thank you.

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