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    LowLife
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    I’m a 26 year old male. I’ve never had a girlfriend, been on a date, or never been in love and I’m an introvert by nature. But recently i stared going out with one of my friends who is the opposite of me and has maxed out his socializing skill to max and started meeting women. But every conversation i spark with a women end up with a thumbs down from her part after the conversation is done she moves away to another crowd and through out the entire night everyone keeps their distance away from me. It has been  3 months  and 70 social interactions so far since i started this i have been visiting other bars and night clubs as well but no luck so far in connecting with any one. Some nights i hire a prostitute and just call it a day, but i end up feeling empty the next day, also i cant keep hiring someone to make me feel good, i don’t earn enough to do it everyday. This lifestyle is really stressful on me and sometimes. I’ve fallen sick and depressed unable to do any sort of  work the next day.

    I’m starting to get the feeling that love non-existent for people like me, because everywhere i go i on’y see ego, and money mindedness and i always look into worst of a person or a situation first before analyzing it any further. This mindset has been deeply embedded in me since my school days, in my school talking to a girl was seen as a taboo and you would be  cast out by the rest of the  crowd as an outcast if even said hi to a girl, and this behavior cling on to me through out my college life and turned me into a negative minded person, every time before going to sleep, i live in fear thinking about work like scared of losing my job even though that’s not the case.

    Before starting a conversation with any person i always think about how much money i’m going to lose today, which makes me the egotistical money minded cumshot. But everyone around me is like that, i feel like i have trapped myself in a system that i can’t escape. I feel so disgusted with myself that i started to hate humanity and some time i think about rigging up some IEDs  go to a empty remote area blowing myself up, that way no one can recognize my body when i’m ripped apart in to tiny bits. I don”t know when i’m going to reach my tipping point as everyday passes i know the pain is just going to get worst. How do i get rid of this mindset ?, if you are suggesting psychiatric treatment i have tried it several times. An i felt it was just a waste of time. The psychiatrist just sits and listens and never tells me any solution to my problem.

    #198515
    Mark
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    LowLife,

    I am sorry for your pain and self loathing (your Tiny Buddha name reveals that).  I cannot imagine the loneliness and self doubt you are feeling for not having a romantic relationship at all during your young life.

    I cannot critique your conversational style and content but I want to share my approach.  1) I listen with curiosity.  People love talking about themselves.  If you are genuinely interested in who they are then they will talk with you.  2) I don’t have any attachment to the outcome of my conversations with women.  I don’t expect to walk away with their number or even them to stay and talk with me.  I look at each encounter as an opportunity to enrich my life for that moment by getting to know them.  3) I am positive.  People sense whether or not you are an Eeyore gloomy type or negative person.  They don’t have to talk with you in order to pick that up.  People like being around positive and enthusiastic people.  4) Focus on how lovely the other person is.  I’m not talking about their physical appearance.  We are all God’s children.  If you see their heart, their innate divinity, and how we are all One and connected with each other then they will sense that and you will approach them with a better attitude.

    You talk about having the mindset and focus on how much money you are going to lose today and feeling trapped as well as feeling disgusted with yourself.

    I am so sorry that you are in such pain.  I know that there are no magic fixes.  It takes persistence, consistency and discipline in loving and mindful practices in order to turn around a lifetime of habits and pain.  Check out the Metta (loving kindness) Meditation as a start.  I know that having a daily gratitude practice has been proven to help with happiness.  There are a bunch of other practices which others can chime in and share as well as practices you can Google to find.

    Mark

    The Wounds of Rejection Heal With Self-Love and Self-Awareness

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 8 months ago by Mark.
    #198595
    Gareth
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    I’m trying to formulate a response, but a bit like life itself it’s hard knowing where to start, so I guess I’ll just dive in anyway. I’ve always been around Tiny Buddha, but your post compelled me to register.

    First of all I’m sorry you feel the way you do. It will be impossible for anyone else to truly understand how you are feeling, but sometimes a different perspective can make a world of difference. You’ve made it this far, so well done for that.

    I’m not far off your age, I never had a truly meaningful relationship until I was 27. I went through life knowing girls, and occasionally having close contact with them, but I was never intimate (I was probably afraid of it). I was also fearful of being let down, or something happening to the relationship. I felt like I put things off or wouldn’t engage because I was saving myself, but for what I didn’t know at the time.

    (That’s the thing with being an introvert, you always want that other person to come to you. But what happens when two introverts want to engage? Which one gives in first? Sometimes it’s best to just totally go against your own nature, put yourself out your comfort zone and go for it.)

    This lead to me feeling depressed, wondering if there was something wrong with me, if there was something I was doing wrong, like I didn’t fit in with this place (whatever I was thinking “this place” was).

    It wasn’t until looking back much later that I realized I thought I was perfect, of course I wasn’t, no one is, but I never engaged with people because I thought no one else was good enough for ‘my level’, never gave them a chance, I didn’t want to waste time doing the “wrong thing”, ironically I wasted time by waiting so long to do things and learned nothing from it. You reap what you sow. I wrote off potential relationships with people because I thought it ‘might’ end, I never took a chance.

    One day I decided enough was enough, I took a chance, and now 3 years later I’m in the relationship I always wanted. Do I regret how things have turned out so far? No not at all, but what I do regret is all the times I didn’t try, but hey ho, live and learn, that’s what life is all about, here and now.

    Before my relationship though, I would go round and round in my head (google search “Rumination”) and obsessed over self help material, from books and videos to motivational speeches, trying to find anything to solve that problem for me. Briefly it worked, but I would sink back in to the same moods. I realized that the obsession and constant looking inward was actually a hindrance to me, it’s possible to get stuck in your own thoughts WAY too much, I was going way too deep in my thought process. It’s the polar opposite of searching for anything external to make your life better.

    That’s the thing with thoughts and feelings, that’s all they are. They have no physical bearing on you being alive right now, you don’t need them for your body to function. So why give them so much weight and power over yourself? They don’t make you who you are. Sure you can listen to them, but do you have to do what they say? Do you have no other choice? Just take whatever your brain or heart is saying under advisement and move on. Never open the door to it, or an over active mind can run riot.

    Nothing else matters but this very moment of your life. You can choose to do whatever you want with it.

    Love totally exists for everyone and it’s important to see that love is very different for everyone. For some people they might have a physical reaction, for others they might feel more secure, for others they might actually feel absolutely nothing, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t in love. All that matters is the connection, a bond that is forged over time. It cannot be forced. You will probably struggle to find meaningful love in bars and places where your friend is taking you, it’s not impossible but for someone like you, it seems like you need something more than that.

    I’ll leave it there for now, and I look forward to your response. We’re all in this together, sat on a rock zooming through space through no choice of our own. So let’s make the best of it.

    #198783
    J M
    Participant

    Hey Lowlife,

    I don’t have much incite at the moment as I am currently going through a breakup. Its not my first and sadly won’t be my last. But let me tell you, enjoy life for what you have! I know you feel an emptiness, but keep striving. one day you will be in a relationship and you will be wishing you were single and free. The second you are single and free (or broken hearted… not sure you could even fathom that feeling), you will be dying inside for love again. That is life! So whatever state you are in, take it for what it is worth at the present time! love is hard and NOTHING last forever. So you really need to focus on coping. If you think you feel empty now, if/when you experience a broken heart you will need all the tools in your box to handle it. What you feel right now will be NOTHING compared to a break up. That is why I say use this time to gather your mental resources to deal. In the cosmic realm, maybe that is why you have not found love yet. The Universe knows you are not ready. love, during and after, requires a huge responsibility, a highly developed mental capacity, a reasonable amount of emotional stability. From what I read, you might not be there, YET. Take the advise from everyone. use this time wisely to change your focus and outlook. Meditate, read self help books, or listen to them in your car on the way to work EVERYDAY. no one has much time to sit and read. but we all spend countless minutes in our cars everyday. Your local library should have a downloadable app where you can have access to an array of self help, meditative, psychology, etc audio books for FREE. I have been doing such over the past few years and has help tremendously!

    Lastly, please do not stress yourself or even concern yourself with your friend and HIS environment. I too am a bit of an introvert so I understand. The clubs and bar scene is just not for you. You are fine and so are they, but that is just not a place for you as the individual you are. The clubs and bars are not for everyone; that scene is purely shallow and superficial. Generally speaking of course; there are a tiny fraction of REAL people. but generally, its not the place for you so don’t even go there. Putting yourself in one of the most unnatural environments will only compound your issues. Do you work out? Try being more social at the gym. Not as a way to fins a date…just to open yourself up to talking. Its not about pick up lines, its about conversation and talking to people (women) like they are just that, PEOPLE! Are there open mic events in your area? Parks?

    You may not be ready for love, that’s why the universe is not sending any your way. Forget about that for now. Focus on getting yourself READY FOR LOVE. Go through these motions of improving yourself, your outlook, your views, your emotional state. It wont happen overnight. you will need to be PATIENT; give Time time! But do be diligent and one day in the future (near or far depends on YOU) you will wake up and realize “hey, I have improved.” and soon after that Love will come your way!

    #199405
    Dani
    Participant

    Hi

    I am a female in my early 30’s and can totally relate. Before I met my boyfriend, I thought I would be alone forever. I could not stand the boring conversations with most of the people I met. I was looking for someone who was curious about the world and liked to learn. Where I’m from…it was nearly impossible. Unfortunately, when I was young, I presented myself outwardly, as a girl who just wanted to have a good time, but inside I was screaming for something more substantial. This led to lots of 1st dates but rarely any 2nd dates.

    I got so fed up one day I said “I’m done.”  No more dating, sex, or men….for a while. I meant it. With this new mentality, I stopped worrying about meeting my “soul mate.” I started having better conversations with people because I no longer had any expectations. I was able to be myself because I didn’t care what the other person thought about me. During that time I focused on myself. I did the things I wanted to do, it was such an amazing feeling of freedom. The first month or 2 was a little tough, but it turned out to be exactly what I needed. About nine months later, while at a party, I met someone and again had no intentions of anything happening but I found him pretty interesting and different from anyone I had previously met. He made an impression but we didn’t exchange information. Over the next two weeks, we kept bumping into each other and eventually I realized, I liked him and to my surprise, he liked me… for me. I was being myself and he didn’t have any complaints. The whole experience made me a much more confident and authentic person, which in turn attracts people who are of the same mindset. I’m not a religious person or anything, but I do think that everything worked out like it did, for a reason.

    When I read your post, I instantly thought this guy is not like everybody else. The fact that you’re aware of what is missing and what you want, speaks volumes. I hope the IED talk was just that, because that is a very permanent solution to a temporary problem. I know it feels like at 26 you should have a girlfriend but FUCK THAT. I think people are just becoming who they are around that age. We change a lot in our lives and maybe the girl you were looking for at 21 is different from the woman you’re looking for today?

    I could sugar coat this last part, but that wouldn’t help the situation. Self pity is a horrible thing. I speak from experience. I don’t know if you realize but  it might have come across to the women you’ve talked to? Even if you’re not blatantly saying “I feel sorry for myself”  some of the phrases you used in your post, give off that vibe. When I started excepting my circumstances, I stopped feeling sorry for myself. I tried to be more optimistic. Most women or people in general want to be around someone who is positive. Imagine hanging out with someone who has no excitement for the future?   The future hasn’t happened yet so why be  negative about it. If you want it to be amazing….it will be. You really are in control of it.  It’s all about perspective. Please trust me on this…I’ve gone through some horrific things in my life, things that the old me, would have never gotten through, but I changed my outlook and my life has become so much better.  By the way, stop surrounding yourself with shallow people.Its obvious there’s more to you than money. BTW Leave the theory’s of your college friends where they belong… in college.

    I hope something in my response helped, even a tiny bit. Good Luck either way.

    Don’t give up on yourself, you’re just getting to the good part.

    D

     

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