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  • #100403
    jsj32
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    I tend to be extremely open and value communication with the people who I am in any sort of relationship with. I speak the truth when I am feeling hurt by someone, even though I know it is not what they want to hear. I give everyone my all, bend over backwards even if I do not receive the same in return.

    The man I am currently “dating” (not exclusively, yet) is an introvert, a listener, but also very stubborn and defensive when a problem arises. We spend a lot of time enjoying each others presence, even if that means not talking. I find it extremely hard to communicate when there are problems. Most of our problems stem from a lack of communication. No matter how careful I am with my words, I still find he gets incredibly overwhelmed and insulted by any slight problem I mention. He unfortunately has a lot going on in his life, and the added stress of me wanting to constantly fix our relationship causes him to shut down. I am gentle and cautious, but its EXTREMELY important for me to say how I feel because I care so much and want this relationship to work. I find myself struggling to find reasons to stay with him, other than a natural connection beyond any words that is holding us together, at times by a thread. Aside from communicating when there are problems, I struggle to communicate with him in general. I will text him and a majority of the time, he will not respond. Our time spent together in person is valuable and worth while. But I miss him severely when we are apart, and I’m trying to understand if the reason he’s not making a conscious effort to send me a message is a good thing or a bad thing. I don’t like being in constant conversation, but a text or phone call each day (especially while we are away from each other for spring break) would make all the difference. He is very grounded and spends a lot of time meditating, exercising and doing things that make him feel happy, without worrying about the outside world. This is great, but it makes me feel left in the dark at times. No matter how many times I stress it, he doesn’t seem to understand and thinks I should be doing the same and not thinking abut him. I’m not sure if this is healthy or toxic. How can you love someone who isn’t there when they aren’t physically there? Its hard to believe there was once a world where we didn’t rely on cellphones to maintain relationships. But unfortunately, this is the reality even if I wish it weren’t.

    In my head I have a dream man, and he encompasses many of those aspects. But I do not feel as loved as I should be, even if I know the love is there and yes, he shows it differently. I have so much love and I show it openly, I text him saying how much I miss him but I don’t get the reply (if any at all) that I would expect, or have gotten from a significant other in the past. I don’t know if this is respectable or unacceptable. Is this a sign that I should move on and find someone else who will love me the same way I love them? HOW do I stay sane while we are apart and not hearing from the person you care so deeply about?

    #100415
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jsj32:

    I need to understand this sentence you wrote: ” I am gentle and cautious, but its EXTREMELY important for me to say how I feel because I care so much and want this relationship to work.”

    How are you gentle and cautious with him? Will you give a couple of examples?

    And can you give three examples of what you told him “because (you) care so much and want this relationship to work”?

    One more thing, it is important for you to say how you feel. Why is it “extremely” important to you, why the extra emphasis on important?

    anita

    #100418
    jsj32
    Participant

    Anita,
    Thank your for responding.
    In the past I have made the mistake of approaching people in the way that comes off as an attack. “You’re doing x,y, and z wrong”, “You need to change your ways” ,etc. etc.

    I have tried being gentle and cautious by using phrases, for example, “I understand where you are coming from”, “This is not an attack”, “I’m not mad”, “I accept you for who you are”, “I don’t want to argue, I just want to have a discussion”. And using a calm and assuring voice. Even through body gestures I try to assure that this a safe place to speak: I make eye contact to show I am listening, will rub his arm to show I care, and such. Normally, it isn’t enough and he will shut down and say “this is how I am, I will never be good enough for you.”

    When he was going through a rough patch and ignored me for 4 days straight (he says he tends to lash out on the wrong people so instead just shuts everything out), I have told him “I am here for you”, “I care about you so much”, “What can I do for you?” “I want to make this work for us” I have cooked him dinner, sent him inspiring articles when he’s sad, brought him medicine when he was sick, worked with him through his assignments when he was stressed, put on his favorite movie, all to lighten his load and make him feel happy. To be honest, I’m not convinced at this point that he would do the same for me. Strangely enough, I feel like I need him more than he needs me.

    It is extremely important for me to say how I feel because I am feeling unhappy and I feel hopeful it could be easily fixed if he would communicate with me more often. I want others to know that I feel comfortable communicating with him so that THEY can feel comfortable communicating with me as well. The more I hold in my feelings, the worse I feel. If I push my feelings aside, they just come pushing back. Communication is the only way for me to prevent that from happening.

    Hope this clarifies.

    #100422
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jsd32:

    Thank you for the thorough response. As I see you, you are a sophisticated person, not easy to understand. So I am reading between your lines. And i will jump in with my first thought:

    Separation anxiety- did you suffer from separation anxiety when you were a child, when your parent/s left to work, dreading they will not return, feeling scared and lonely in their absence… something like that? Were you left alone for to long?

    anita

    #100423
    jsj32
    Participant

    I’m interested in how I am not easy to understand, could you elaborate on how you got that?

    I am generally quite reliant on others and naturally fear losing them, I do suffer from anxiety however I cannot trace anything back to my childhood or upbringing.

    #100426
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jsj32:

    I wrote that you are not easy (for me) to understand based on your writings above because you wrote that you used to talk to some people this way: ““You’re doing x,y, and z wrong”, “You need to change your ways” ,etc. etc.”

    Then you realize it is not effective to do that, and wisely you talk differently now, using effective interpersonal skills well and now you will say things like: “I understand where you are coming from”, “This is not an attack”, “I’m not mad”, “I accept you for who you are” –

    What makes it hard for me to understand is that since you are informed, educated and sophisticated to be using the second kind of talk, now I don’t know if your critical messages no longer clear as in the first example, if you still communicate the same message in other subtle ways.

    It is possible that you don’t communicate disapproving messages to your boyfriend at all. But I don’t know. If you were still doing the x,y examples above, then I would understand the messages you are sending. But with the latter examples, it is possible (only possible) that the same messages are sent in other ways.

    ???

    As far as the separation anxiety, that was about what was clearer to me, something I caught in your writing about your difficulties when not in your boyfriend’s physical company. I sensed you are anxious when physically separate from him. I thought of you as an anxious little girl away from a calming parental figure. (And again, the words you use, even the title of the thread, show intelligence and sophistication that mask a bit the raw parts of you)

    anita

    #100430
    jsj32
    Participant

    I see what you are saying.

    Do you think that the fact that I have to dance around his feelings and be excessively kind and understanding is a sign that this is not healthy? I fear him walking away and never coming back if I blatantly say things that he does wrong. I have had to chase him down the street and beg him to come back after he stormed out of my house after confronting him abut how it bothers me when he doesn’t answer my texts or communicate with me. He said we have had this fight three times and he’s not going to keep doing this. I have to emphasize how much I trust him and I do not fear him being with other people and I do not get jealous. I just sincerely miss him and want him to ask me how I’m doing, to show some sign that he cares.

    I’m not sure if my anxiety is screaming extra loud to me because of how much I love him, or if he is truly not trying hard enough. To feel something isn’t right because of texting seems so silly. However it hurts that I have told him it upsets me and he can’t seem to make the small sacrifice I am asking for

    #100431
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jsd32:

    You wrote in your original post: “No matter how careful I am with my words, I still find he gets incredibly overwhelmed and insulted by any slight problem I mention.” And here you wrote: “I have to dance around his feelings and be excessively kind…”

    I don’t like it. I am familiar with that kind of interaction, walking on egg shells and the mere memory of it brings me anxiety and distress. This is definitely not healthy, how can it possibly be healthy?

    I also don’t like it that he doesn’t answer your texts and storming out and you chasing him. Nope, don’t like it at all.

    I will be back to the computer in a couple-three hours and then will re-read your posts and anything you will add next, if you’d like, so to get a better understanding..

    Oh, and your anxiety and you not connecting it to anything in your childhood… nothing there? No memory of anxiety as a child? any memory of feeling unsafe, or rejected as a child? Or angry…?

    anita

    #100432
    jsj32
    Participant

    In a weird way, it feels good to hear that this is not right. As much as I don’t want it to be true, as much as I am craving and trying for him; it seems apparent that this is not a good relationship for me. I have consistently found ways to blame myself – I am too anxious, theres nothing to worry about, I’m overreacting; and fall into his sweet talk and excuses “I am busy, I’m a bad texter, I’m bad at communicating”

    It may be a combination of both. But I’m running out of reasons to defend him, other than the way I feel when I’m with him.

    I really can’t think of any bad experiences as a child. I have a good upbringing. I can see maybe feeling rejected as the youngest child who has an older brother who is a very successful professional athlete and I can’t ever compete with that. A majority of my life that has been the focus in my family. However, I have come to terms with that quite recently.

    I feel my anxiety stems more so from previous relationships. I have been rejected by the past 2-3 men who I have fallen deeply for, it seems to be a repeating cycle of not being good enough for men no matter how hard I try.

    #100446
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jsj32:

    This relationship is not promising, I agree. You wrote that you were rejected by the past 2-3 men who you fell in love with deeply, a “repeating cycle” you wrote. Would you like to examine this possible repeating cycle so to see if there is something to change on your part?

    It is possible of course you just had bad luck.

    Let me know.

    anita

    #100514
    jsj32
    Participant

    Anita,

    That would probably be extremely helpful. I was told by one that he wanted to focus on his career and didn’t want a relationship anymore, another that I was “too persistent” in getting to know him and spend time with him, and another was “too busy” with grad school work.

    #100515
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jsj32:

    You wrote (I am writing from memory reading your posts yesterday, so my words are not exact) that your brother was a successful professional athlete during your childhood and you couldn’t compete with him, athletically, I assume you mean. Your wrote that your parents were focused on him, not on you.

    You wrote before that you turn backward for everyone, doing for others so much (as you did for the boyfriend you described on this thread), doing so much for others, expressing your love for them, trying to please and accommodate.

    When one “niche” is taken by one sibling, in your case athleticism, the other siblings take other available places in the family. Maybe you took the people pleasing, people accommodating niche, competing for attention that way.

    Could that be the case? If so, did it work for you in the context of your family?

    Maybe it is not working in your relationships with men so far. Maybe you doing too much for the guy, focusing on his feelings and the balance is off, so it works against you… the guy maybe feeling pressured to … love you too soon, because of all that you do for him???

    anita

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