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March 2, 2016 at 3:31 am #97812KateParticipant
Two weeks ago my husband, out of the blue, told me he wasn’t happy and needed space. He said that it’s nothing that I have done wrong and he needs time to figure out why he’s not happy.
I went to see him last night and we had a very calm conversation – we didn’t argue, I didn’t leave feeling upset however, he still didn’t have any answers.
He’s removed his wedding ring and has opened his own bank account as he wants to feel more independent. He is calling this a separation however, he isn’t contemplating divorce at all.
He’s also going to see a counsellor – he says that he wants to know if this will make his feelings change, he insists he’s not depressed. He’s also promised me that there isn’t anyone else involved and I do believe him.
I’m just so confused, I actually feel really calm even though my life is in limbo.March 2, 2016 at 3:48 am #97814MattyParticipantHi Kate,
I’m just so confused, I actually feel really calm even though my life is in limbo.
This I would consider the norm in this situation. There is clearly something affecting your husband, whether it be stress, it could even be something he has recently experienced or heard from someone/ something. In saying that, he also seems to be contemplating why he is feeling this way. I’m not quite sure what advice i could give, except possibly keeps us updated on the situation. Nothing particularly is out of place here. It’s (IMO) normal to wake and feel the complete opposite to what you felt the day before, we aren’t machines! Feelings much like anything are not fixed nor stable, they are constantly changing and evolving based on influences, experiences and time itself. Often we take for granted that being ‘in love’ will continue or that somethings are meant to last in there ‘complete’ stage forever. Maybe your husband didn’t expect things to change? Maybe he thought things would be different and he is trying to figure out where exactly things went from good to out of place. Also someone who is depressed, doesn’t always know they are depressed. My uncle didn’t know he was depressed, he just thought (being a typical Aussie bloke) that he needed to harden up and deal with work, relationships and raising a child by himself (he is divorced with a teenager). Sometimes we think we are stronger than we actually are, it’s only when we face challenges that we learn more about ourselves.
We, as humans continually accept things without understanding them, it’s just easier that way. I think you are both very brave, firstly you’re giving your husband some breathing room to understand what’s going on in his head. And he is brave to be honest with you. However i would stress that removing the wedding band and even opening a bank account seems pretty preemptive if he is ‘just’ trying to understand what he is feeling, but i won’t assume anymore. Two weeks isn’t much time, how long have you been married for? Has this ever happened before? not this exact situation, but something like it?
I’m glad your calm, in the face of uncertainty and/ or change. Keep us posted if you want. Hopefully more people will give some better advice than myself. I feel as if i haven’t done much for you at all 😉
Sincerely,
MattyMarch 2, 2016 at 3:53 am #97815KateParticipantHi Matty,
Thank you for your reply.
We have been together for 5 years and married for just over 1 year. This has never happened before.
A bit of background about him – his Mother passed away 2 years ago from cancer, she was a lovely woman but she did sometimes treat my husband as a replacement for his Dad who left when my husband was 19. He left because of the way he was being treated at the time however, he was the last person to visit her before she died. I have a feeling that he didn’t really want to leave his Mum but saw no other option.I don’t know if this has affected my husband but for the first few years of our relationship, it was centred on his mum and her treatment. It’s only now that everything seems to be going right for us (job, home etc.) that this has come up.
March 2, 2016 at 4:53 am #97820MattyParticipantKate,
I do find it interesting that you have been together for 5 years before marrying. Not that i saying it’s strange or anything. But perhaps since it’s fairly early into the marriage after being together for so long, maybe your husband is dealing with certain expectations he might of had when you both married. Maybe there is this ‘pressure’ to married life he was unaware of, whether it exists or not is irrelevant, the perception it’s real is more than enough. Maybe the direction was intended to be different? Did you guys have any particular goals or directions where you wanted to go? Have either one of you drastically changed after marriage?
I don’t know if this has affected my husband but for the first few years of our relationship, it was centred on his mum and her treatment.
This might sound really really strange, but maybe the fact that life centered around his mother was the balancing act, the one thing that didn’t change, was his mother’s treatment towards him. He expected it, in a way. It’s kind of like, being given a candy for just being yourself. It’s nice, but after a couple more times you get used to it, you stop questioning why this is happening and accepting it. Eventually it becomes just a burden you accept. This is in your husband’s mind = stability (i’m just assuming, hope to be wrong). It seems to me that your husband’s mother played quite a big role, it could be because he may not of had enough closure (maybe he wanted to say something to her, tell her something?)that he feels something is off.
It’s only now that everything seems to be going right for us (job, home etc.) that this has come up
Yeah, this is great news! maybe it’s because your husband has time to catch his breath, maybe he has had time to reflect, maybe he feels he hasn’t earnt everything he has in his life now, everything from the job, to the home….even you. When your in the thick of it you go from motion to motion in order to achieve your goals, you put your head down and go for it.
Has he spoken to you again recently? Seen the counselor? I’m just trying to think of any questions to ask to understand more about this situation. I know you are confused, but you know him better than i ever could, or anyone here….has he changed? Have you changed? Sometimes the smallest of details can influence bigger ones.
What do you think?
MattyMarch 2, 2016 at 5:00 am #97823KateParticipantWe got married in the third year of our relationship – we’ve been together 4 years in total (5 years in July).
Neither of us have drastically changed after marriage, we were happier if anything. He’s said that he’s not been happy since just before Christmas but he tried to change things himself and couldn’t, hence why he’s going to a counsellor. His first session was last Friday and his next one is this Friday.
The last time I spoke to him face to face was last night when he told me about the wedding ring etc.
As far as I’m concerned, I haven’t changed but obviously his feelings have even though he doesn’t know why.March 2, 2016 at 5:20 am #97825MattyParticipantKate,
I’m sorry to hear this.
I’m not sure, honestly what to write, i feel that no matter what i write or question, it’s truly your husband who needs to answer and understand these. I could continue to generalize or assume, but that’s not right. I guess you are already racking your brain for answers, and i don’t want to make you scratch harder for the sake of my curiosity. PLease keep updating this post, whether to add your thoughts or ask more questions or advice, since it’s quite late here, maybe the other side of the world will arise to a new day soon and offer more useful advice. I truly hope that everything works out.
Sincerely,
MattyMarch 2, 2016 at 7:27 am #97829AnonymousGuestDear Kate:
Here is a possibility: when he took off the wedding ring, he was really taking off the symbol of his imprisonment into a certain role that his mother put him in. By taking the wedding ring off and separating from you, he is symbolically separating from his (dead) mother and exiting the role she put him in.
He wants freedom from that role, from her. Even though he is not a child or a teenager, he became who he is through the interactions that happened then. We can’t …erase the past because connections in the brain where made then and we can’t disconnect those by an act of will.
If he does believe that it is nothing that you did wrong, and it is true, then he is closer to the real issue: his mother and himself.
If this possibility… is a possibility in your understanding and you see a point in further exploring it here, you can share more about his relationship and interactions with his mother.
anita
March 2, 2016 at 7:34 am #97830KateParticipantHi Anita,
Wow, that is food for thought.
His interactions with his Mum were mixed. He has an older sister who seems to have always been the favourite, my husband however became the man of the family after his Dad left.
His Mum would expect him to look after her, to basically be at her beck and call. I don’t doubt that she loved him but, if he refused to do something for her she would become vicious and say really hurtful things. She would then snap back into a good mood within a blink of an eye and all would be ok again. On numerous occasions my husband would say that his Mum was making him out to be the blacks sheep of the family even though he rarely put a foot wrong – he would just say no to her demands sometimes.
He looked after her pretty much around the clock in her final days which is something I know he is thankful for – he got to spend a lot of valuable time with her.
March 2, 2016 at 8:04 am #97834AnonymousGuestDear Kate:
I am reading what you wrote above, that you don’t doubt that she loved him and following that you wrote that ‘if he refused to do something for her she would become vicious and say really hurtful things” (to him, I suppose).
Let’s examine this: was that loving of her to be vicious to her son? To say really hurtful things to him?
Maybe she was loving sometimes, but not when she acted with … hate, with the intent to hurt him.
If you believe your husband, that his mother made him out to be the black sheep of the family even though he did nothing wrong and favored his sister… then that is not loving to him either, is it?
The fact that his mother got sick and died, that doesn’t make her loving either. It just means she got sick and died.
This is my understanding so far, and please let me know what you think of it:
There is a great need a child (of any age) has to perceive one’s mother in the best light possible, so I am sure that exists in him about his mother.. and in you about your own, as it is a natural tendency. But he knows she was not loving toward him (the fact that she was sometimes loving does not make her a loving mother. Her mistreatment of him does not get neutralized by her sometimes loving behavior).
He knows inside him. When you participate in the convenient and false thinking that his mother loved him, period. Then you contribute to his LACK of mental well being. In therapy, if it is good therapy, he will come to terms with his anger at her being justified. He will come to terms with the fact that she was often unloving to him. It is hard to fully accept this.
In your interactions with your husband, do not support the notion that his mother was loving. When you do this, you feed his sickness. Be open and supportive to his feelings. Don’t defend his mother in his own mind. He needs the defending himself! He needs somebody on his side!
anita
March 4, 2016 at 3:57 am #97978KateParticipantOk so his language is so mixed.
He says that we’re separated but he’s not even thinking about divorce. He’s also taking up counselling to see if his feelings will change. To me this sounds like he doesn’t want to feel this way and is seeking ways to help change his mind? Am I right in thinking that?
March 4, 2016 at 9:00 am #97990AnonymousGuestDear Kate:
Maybe his language is mixed, as you put it, because he is indeed ..mixed, that is, confused, conflicted. And he is hoping to resolve his conflict in counseling. This is a good step for him to take, and I hope he attends competent counseling.
You have no control over what happens in his counseling. What I suggested earlier is that you support him, be on his side, accept and respect his feelings. This is the best you can do in this situation: be his best friend. Let him state how things have been for him and don’t try to change his thinking about how things have been for him.
Good counseling will not help him change his mind. Good counseling will help him be aware what is already in his mind, bring up- in the safe environment of counseling- the truth about his past and life. You can be a safe place for him as well and that is the best you can do!
anita
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