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    Jamie
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    Okay what I am about expound upon has been affecting me for a couple years, the only reason why I am posting about it  now is because after considering all my past experiences I have noticed a pattern with women that I am interested in, especially when I attempt to communicate/build rapport with.  A recent event helped me realize it and I would appreciate all/any advice. On Thursday, I went to a Christian student meeting at my college. The people there are roughly my age (late teens-to mid twenty’s). After preparing the night before, I wanted to look good for this one girl, we’ll just call her Sarah. I met Sarah a couple weeks ago, tried to make a good impression, I may have acted a little awkward at the end of the first time we met, but we exchanged a couple facebook messages. One time I met with the Christian group in the Student center, and she was really excited to see me but we couldn’t really talk because she needed to get lunch and I needed to leave because my dad was picking me up that day. I sent her message that day and said that it was good to see her. It took days for her to see the message, but when she did she didn’t respond.  So, on Thursday, I went to the room where the club usually meets at, but she seemed to be glued to her phone at first. I pulled back and talked to other people, I didn’t want to force anything because I have learned the hard way. I tried to communicate with her during the meeting.  One thing I noticed is that she consistently looked at me during this meeting, it wasn’t as much as the first time we met. But it was still present. I would say that I was nervous. I really prepared the night before to look good (Vinyard Vines dress shirt, casual khaki Etc,etc)   I tried asking interesting questions, but I wasn’t able to pull of some rapport as much as I would have liked. I noticed that when I communicated with her she never smiled but gave me a very neutral look. She smiled only faintly when I told a joke when we had a group Ice Breaker I can’t seem to build rapport to the point where I would get a phone number and a lot of communication via texting. I am not sure if this has something to do with my appearance, my lack of humor, or what. Flirting is REALLY difficult for me as of now, and I am not just sure what I am doing wrong. This is what typically happens when I am trying to communicate with women I like but I just don’t get the desired response. It really made me upset because it was the same damn thing that happened to me and I still can’t figure what I should be saying differently or what I am doing incorrectly.  Any help is appreciated.

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    Anonymous
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    Dear Jamie:

    You wrote: “Flirting is REALLY difficult for me.” In the title of your thread there is: “flirting help” – maybe flirting is not your thing, not your authentic way of communicating. And so, don’t even try it. How do you talk with male peers? If your communication with male peers, certain family members is effective, communicate the same way with women…?

    anita

    #144295
    James
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    It sounds like you’re putting a lot of emphasis on “looking good” but most women won’t think that’s enough (unless you are male model good looking) and they are going to be attracted to a lot of other qualities such as confidence, humour, social skills, and flirting skills.

    It sounds like you are not really sure how to interact with women in the right way which I was the same in high school and early days of uni.

    I highly recommend checking out a book called the “Mystery Method”. It outlines the process of meeting a woman to getting intimate with her and a lot of very helpful tips. While it is a book that comes from the “pick up artist” scene which gets a lot of flack from people (mostly because a lot of guys who do study PUA are not great people), the information itself is quite valuable and can really help men get better with women.

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