May 12, 2022 at 9:23 am #399972cmParticipant
Hello. I’m new here. I found Tiny Buddha on Facebook a few weeks back, and just discovered this site with forums!
Now for my reason being in this forum. I will do my best to keep this coherent. I’m running on very little sleep. My apologies in advance.
I grew up in a very neglectful and abusive household. I have 3 siblings who also experienced living in that. I’m 29 now. Due to my parents treatment of me, I never really bonded with them. I became very secluded, self reliant, developed mental health issues young, and didn’t ask for help much at all. Of course, the negative traits that developed over those years stuck with me and it’s something I’ve been working on undoing. (Making great progress recently!)
I moved out right when I was 18, soon to be married to my husband (whom I’m still married to). Upon escaping that environment, the realization of how wrong things were at home, the realization of the mistreatment, the effects, hit me like a ton of bricks once I was living in a place of peace.
It took me many years before I confronted my parents about their behavior. My dad had terrible anger issues and would hit me. He only did this to me. The abuse stopped shortly before I moved out, and thankfully this never happened to my siblings by him minus a few years of incidents that involved my first born sister. He apologized immediately upon me asking him about it, and I was able to heal, and we were able to salvage our relationship. Unfortunately, he’s still very neglectful and doesn’t make much attempt at all to have a relationship. But that I’ve come to terms with.
However, my mom is a whole other story. As a kid, she was always yelling at us, talking behind our backs, hit us sometimes, put us down, was not supportive in times of emotional need. In my early 20s, I made great attempts to build a relationship with her as I didn’t really have one before. But I realize now that this was more of a friendship, and it involved lots of drinking, parties at their house, etc. The put downs continued, name calling. She displayed very inappropriate behavior especially while drinking. 5ish years ago my patents had a Halloween party at their house, she got very drunk and was all over MY husband! It didn’t last long, but this was when I realized something isn’t right. This isn’t a mom. She’d call me and blab over and over the same stories for hours and not listen to me at all if I needed support. She’d talk horribly about my dad to me, and give me really inappropriate details and stories that no one needs to know about their parents… ever. Over the years she really made me resent my dad. I was too gullible, too easily believed her. At the time, I felt happy to have a “close” bond with my mom finally. She made it all seem so normal. Thankfully I’ve realized now that he isn’t the main problem she says he is. I’ve learned over the last 2 years that my dad has been dealing with way more than we could ever imagine being with her. There’s so so many more incidents with my mom I could go on about… but in short, we think she has a personality disorder like BPD. I’m including the suspected BPD to hopefully give you guys more insight on the typical BPD and manipulative behaviors we’ve had to deal with. She will never ever apologize, she just blames my dad for HER abusive and inappropriate behaviors towards us. My mom has become a severe alcoholic over the last 7 or so years. She denies she has a problem. (My grandpa, her dad, was also an alcoholic and died when I was 7). Over the last 3 years, I’ve been very patient, loving, tried talking to her many times about how her alcohol abuse and erratic behavior is affecting us, but it never sticks. It came to a point that I felt like I had a life draining leech on me 24/7, my stress levels were through the roof and I couldn’t deal with it bleeding into every aspect of my life anymore. So last October, I told her I’m sorry but I’m going no contact, and that I’m here for when she’s ready to address the issues at hand and that I’m here to help her when she’s ready to recieve treatment. The one mean thing I did say, out of frustration, that I regret, is that if she keeps this up she will have no one left and die lonely. Her behavior has not changed one bit since then.
I guess I feel a lot of guilt. Especially for the mean comment I made. I want to apologize, but I know if I do it will open a giant can of worms and manipulation from her. I’m also feeling like I abandoned her in a time of need. I know that she is greatly suffering, but isn’t ready to acknowledge or face it yet. I feel guilty as well when I look back on the last 7 months being no contact, and feeling so much relief and stress gone purely because she’s not in my life anymore right now. And sometimes I feel even worse that I feel I haven’t suffered a loss at all, as I didn’t really have a “mom” to begin with. This years mother’s day was the very first year that I did not send a gift, or even a text. I thought I was prepared to deal with it, but seeing all the positive mother’s day posts of happy families breaks my heart. I am so very happy for those that have beautiful, healthy, loving relationships with their moms, I just can’t help but feel like I’m missing something.
I know this is very long. If you’ve made it this far, thank you so much for your time. I would appreciate any insight, as well as tips for getting through. Please be honest with me if I should feel some guilt for not sticking around and my hurtful comment made in haste.May 12, 2022 at 10:23 am #399981HelcatParticipant
I’m sorry for the abuse you dealt with from your parents.
Regarding the “if you keep this up you’ll die alone” comment, it’s a little harsh but true. I see it as a warning.
You didn’t abandon your mother you established boundaries. She has chosen clinging to her harmful behaviours instead of pursuing a relationship with you.
You cannot save someone from themselves. They have to make that decision for themselves. I think you made a good decision choosing not to watch your mother harm herself and those around her. By doing so you protect yourself from that harm. You never know if she will change her mind in the future. Who knows what the future brings.May 12, 2022 at 11:39 am #399984anitaParticipant
Welcome to tiny buddha. You and I have a couple things in common: my mother too was BPD and I also ended contact with her (back in 2013).
Not all people who fit the BPD diagnosis are the same person, of course: my mother didn’t have a problem with alcohol, and she did not party, but she exhibited these same behaviors as you described regarding your mother: “she was… yelling at us, talking behind our backs, hit us sometimes, put us down… name calling. She displayed very inappropriate behavior… blab over and over the same stories for hours and not listen to me at all… She’d talk horribly about my dad to me, and give me really inappropriate details and stories that no one needs to know about their parents… ever… She will never ever apologize, she just blames…. for HER abusive and inappropriate behaviors towards us… erratic behavior” (My mother talked horribly about everyone to me, she gave me really inappropriate details and stories about everyone, she blamed me for her abusive behaviors toward me).
When I read: “It came to a point that I felt like I had a life draining leech on me 24/7, my stress levels were through the roof and I couldn’t deal with it bleeding into every aspect of my life anymore” – I remembered that I used to think of my mother as a vampire, sucking the life out of me.
“So, last October, I told her I’m sorry but I’m going no contact” – congratulations, you did the right thing!
“I told her… that I’m here for when she’s ready to address the issues at hand and that I’m here to help her when she’s ready to receive treatment” – that was nice of you to say, but although it is possible for some to seek treatment, it is unlikely that a person fitting a personality disorder diagnosis would seek treatment for the personality disorder.
“The one mean thing I did say, out of frustration, that I regret, is that if she keeps this up, she will have no one left and die lonely” – I don’t see anything wrong with what you told her, other than it making you feel badly. I don’t think that it made her feel badly (or at least, not for long). From what you shared, I don’t think that she cares what you think and feel, so no harm done to her by what you said.
“I never really bonded with them. I became very secluded, self-reliant… I guess I feel a lot of guilt… I’m also feeling like I abandoned her in a time of need” – I believe that you feel guilty because when you were a baby and a young child, you naturally felt a strong bond with your mother… you just forgot how it felt because of the many years of emotional distance from her. You learned to be self-reliant, but the old bond did not disappear. Some of it awakened when you ended contact with her, didn’t it?
“I know that she is greatly suffering” – but not because of you, not because you ended contact with her. If you renew contact with her, she will continue to suffer, just as she suffered when you had contact with her, including through the years that you lived with her.
If you renew contact with her, she will suffer, and you will suffer (more than you currently suffer from guilt).
“If you’ve made it this far, thank you so much for your time. I would appreciate any insight, as well as tips for getting through. Please be honest with me if I should feel some guilt for not sticking around and my hurtful comment made in haste” –
– you are welcome. 1) No, you should not feel any guilt for not sticking around “a life draining leech“, 2) Do not give in to the guilt and renew contact with her,
3) Address the (invalid) guilt you are feeling and resolve it while keeping the no-contact status with your mother,
4) Congratulations for “Making great progress recently“, and please focus on keeping your walk on the path of progress. Renewing contact with her will put a stop to your progress and undo progress made),
5) For more insight and tips, you are welcome to communicate with me for as long as you want to.
May 22, 2022 at 8:01 pm #400927anitaParticipant
- This reply was modified 1 week, 6 days ago by anita.
How are you, cm?