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April 28, 2016 at 8:10 pm #103081AnonymousGuest
Dear Ravi:
My goodness! I bet your heart missed a few beats when you found out she sent you a message and then I can imagine the tension through you as you read it, and re-read it.
I suppose you did commit a crime expressing boy/girl feelings for Jerry. And once you did that, she was afraid to be accused of leading you to those feelings and she wants her name cleared, to spread the news she had no part in this crime.
What does it mean, the exam is cancelled? The big exam, the one in May? And if it is cancelled, does it mean you cannot proceed to medical school?
I never encouraged anyone to immigrate to the USA, but I am thinking maybe you should somehow get your hands on just enough money to leave your parents’ home, to leave the scene of the love-crime, and fly to the USA for a chance for a reasonable life. Of course, you will have to carry a wallet- will that be for the first time in your life- carry a wallet, a few belongings and all by yourself arrive into the … new world.
Crazy talk on my part…?
anita
April 28, 2016 at 9:21 pm #103090ravi_zimmerfanParticipantYou bet. She’s immature and not trying to put aside her preconceived notions and understand what I’m trying to say. I guess her sister is affirming her confirmation bias and that’s elevating this issue. I just tried to clear this issue and tried to make her understand I’ve pushed away my feelings for her and that I genuinely care for her. At least she’s not sent me any negative reply, which she probably would’ve done if she decisively wanted to leave me… hopefully a small solace. I did what I could. Just praying for the best.
Regarding the exam, nothing is certain. I really don’t like the idea of leaving my country but if there’s no other option left, I may have no choice. Let’s see what happens. It’s just terrible that we study a whole year only to see this happen. Just feeling extremely down and depressed at the moment due to the cumulative effect of everything. Everything has only went from bad to worse for me this year so far. Thanks a lot for the support, Anita.
April 29, 2016 at 7:57 am #103108AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
You are welcome and I do so wish good things happen for you this year, to change the so far bad to worse record of this year for you.
Like you wrote, you did your best with Jerry. It is interesting, she is 20 or so and her sister is 15, five years younger, a child still and yet Jerry has let her sister do the communication for her. I suppose this is another indication of the immaturity you mentioned above. Sure they are both young, but I have learned that mental maturity is often not a product of time. You can see around you people way older than you, still immature.
Please do post anytime. I do hope to read some good news along the way. Hold on and be strong.
anita
April 29, 2016 at 7:02 pm #103156ravi_zimmerfanParticipantThanks Anita. I know… I just tried my best to make her understand. I know that beneath that immaturity is a caring and gentle heart, and I just hope she eventually understands. I can only pray for the best. For what it’s worth, the court has reversed its decision of cancelling our exam after protests. So I’m just continuing my preparation. Not able to sleep at night due to bad dreams and anxiety, just wish I can overcome that for now.
April 29, 2016 at 7:51 pm #103157AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I am glad the protests were heard. No more communication with her or her sister or the others about her, I hope, until the test. So hopefully you sleep better.
Need for nothing to happen this way or that way until the test is done and over with.
Have mercy on yourself, Ravi. You are suffering and unnecessarily. You are a good person, be good to yourself.
anita
May 1, 2016 at 6:05 am #103230ravi_zimmerfanParticipantShe messaged this: (the rest of it was just repeated from last time)
“I can’t take this. You know I don’t like certain things and what I came to know about your feelings, including you asking if I’m comfortable with you, made me understand what you’re thinking. I know what (our mutual friend) told me was what he understood you felt. We may not have been on formal terms, but we weren’t so informal for you to get wrong feelings. I have no anger on you as I don’t keep anything in mind. If you want, you may message me anytime on FB but not related to this.”My reply – “The *certain things* in question involve me being a pervert and lustful beast, if I’m not mistaken? I’m sorry, sis. I cannot stop you making theories about my feelings, altering facts to suit your views and holding whatever beliefs you do. But you should know they don’t change the truth. I may have committed the “sin” of loving you more than a sister, but I know why I did it and my heart knows it wasn’t out of vile intention. If you want to believe it’s lust, I can’t change your views. Please don’t message me unless you put aside your preconceived beliefs and try to look beyond them. I love you always, no matter what you think of me and I pray everything will be right eventually. Take care.”
I hope my reply was not harsh, Anita? 🙁 I did not want to hurt her or write anything like that. If accepting everything as my fault could solve it, I’d gladly do it. But I don’t know why she’s feeling I had perverted thoughts and I only wanted to ask her to put aside her preconceived notions and think honestly, as the discussion is pointless unless she does it. I hope she did not take my message wrongly… I was not angry or upset, just trying to make her understand but reading it now, I’m feeling afraid. I cried half the day and could not study at all.
May 1, 2016 at 8:18 am #103243AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
For the sole purpose of encouraging her to communicate with you on FB, your reply was harsh, it seems to me. For the purpose of correcting her thinking about you to match it to the truth, to protest against referring to you as morally a bad person, for this latter purpose, your reply was not harsh.
What your reply is telling me is that more than wanting just ANY contact with her, you want an authentic, honest contact. Am I correct?
anita
May 1, 2016 at 8:46 am #103247ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI actually merged two different messages of hers in the above post for convenience. Regarding contact on Facebook, I just told her that I’m not there now and we can talk on Whatsapp if its ok with her. I do feel that just any contact will probably be of little use until the misunderstandings between us are cleared, and she understands that I did not mean things the way she’s thinking.
My reply was for the perversion allegations alone. I hope I did not go overboard with that? I already am feeling guilty for the March fiasco and didn’t want to be harsh, just wanted to get the message to her.
May 1, 2016 at 9:18 am #103250AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
It occurred to me, after I sent you the last message, that I was wrong: I did not conceive the possibility, before reading the post I responded to, that she will ever agree to communicate with you unless you shifted from brother material to husband material. I had no idea she would consider communicating with you as a brother again.
As to your message to her, it was not harsh considering your intent is to clarify your motivations, to protest against the harsh (yes, harsh!) accusations made against you! Boy, were those accusations of you harsh and unreasonable!
anita
May 1, 2016 at 5:45 pm #103306ravi_zimmerfanParticipantYes Anita. Honestly speaking, I don’t care whether the accusations are unreasonable or whether they hurt me. I’ve wronged her far, far more and she had to put up with much more horrible stuff from me. I would gladly accept everything as my fault but I don’t know how it’s going to solve this issue. I hope she did not take my “please don’t message” part as wanting to break contact/relations… I only wanted to say that discussion is useless until she tries to understand what I’m saying. She’s not replied yet. I don’t know what to do. Feeling really dreadful.
May 1, 2016 at 7:18 pm #103308AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
You are confused, Ravi. When you sent her the message last, you did care about her and her sister’s accusations. That was very clear. Later, feeling dreadful, you don’t care. But you do.
I really, really think you should shelf this whole thing and concentrate on the testing. I really, really think so.
Post again. I don’t know what else to address right now. I am concerned about you. I want you to experience well being, peace of mind, not this torment. I was glad for a while when you did study a lot, had no contact with her or about her, then some contact, and you are distressed again.
anita
May 1, 2016 at 7:22 pm #103309ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI know Anita. I’ve always hoped to put aside my ego and not care about being accused. But it does feel bad when it comes from someone you love so much. I hope I can change that. Maybe I can write a poem for her and send on FB, apologizing if she felt bad due to my message. I’m just tired of this situation, of my studies, exams and everything. I’m tired of my life itself… I want a break from everything, I just wish I could be anybody else but me.
May 1, 2016 at 7:41 pm #103313AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I am thinking as I am typing right now: you spend all day and night in your home. You don’t go out. You don’t go out and meet friends. Friends don’t visit you in the home. You don’t cook or clean or do any physical activity or do shopping. Food, clothes are purchased, prepared and handed to you. The only people you see and hear are your grandmother, mother and father. They are predictable, there is familiarity but no intimate conversations with either one. All they want you to do is to study.There is way too much monotony, no excitement, no connections and no intimacy with people.
If I am correct, this is not a satisfactory life: it can’t be. You need to get out, to do things other than study. Anybody in your place would be very distressed. I don’t think it is possible to not be distressed and miserable living your life.
What can be doable to make things better for you?
anita
May 1, 2016 at 8:26 pm #103318ravi_zimmerfanParticipantThat’s very true. That is the reason I started participating in the online forum and found a whole new family. I discovered inner talents I didn’t even know I had. From the oddball everyone mocked in school, I became a beloved brother to so many people. I found her, someone I love more than my own life. Now, as a result of this fiasco, that world seems lost to me and has left me with even more pain and misery than before. That coupled with this exam trouble, no wonder my life has become a living hell.
My parents just keep repeating this same thing… “get selected in the exam and we’ll give you freedom, you will get anything you want then. But first, selection.” That selection seems a distant holy grail right now.
May 1, 2016 at 9:16 pm #103330AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I cringe every time I read (twice or three times) that your parents say to you: We will give you freedom. You are supposed to have freedom as your … human right, Born to be Free. Not something your parents have the power to keep away from you.
I would like to read one day that you are free.
Night time for me. When it is night time for you, dream of freedom. What would freedom be like for you. If you would like, let me know what it would be for you..?
anita
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